Ever feel like....(rant)

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

So have I made assumptions. And it's that your theme is "You don't realize how tough it is" and you seem ever ready to make excuses for disorder and mayhem.You defended rape during combat in another thread as an act that we should have sympathy for. Now you are telling a guy who counsels someone that " Your situation is not as bad as it seems" that he is bitter. Most people do not have their lives in order at the age of 19. I certainly didn't. It is actually tough to be that age. And like you I was in the military at that age from 1969-1972. I didn't quite have my life entirely straight at the age of 28 either but I was well on my way. I think that in your posts you are justifying your own problems. It looks to me as if you harbor the bitterness because you don't yet have your own life straight. But this is only my impression. More foolish "Old people speak." :twocents:

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Hi Dale,

I don't feel like I have any problems at this point (29), but that can change quickly, and I have absolutely nothing to be bitter about. I worked to get into the position I am in now where I have less responsibility than I did at 19. I knew exactly what the rules were along the way and I didn't do anything to change them which means I choose to live within them.

I cannot distantly compare a child/young man/woman who is living this war to the original poster. It is not representative or fair to those who are defending us.

I can definately see how your comments apply to what I have said in the past but I don't know that they are entirely on topic here. I do feel like Jim's comments dimished Ryans issues. That is an opinion and should be taken as such.


No disrespect intended.

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Originally Posted by withonor

I don't have a story yet, and I may never have one. Most people who have ever existed don't have a story. A rumor at best that is forgotten as quickly as it is told. So Jim, my friend, you aren't even a character yet. However I do value your opinion for what it is and I am truely appreciating our philisophically inspired conversation.

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I have to disagree with you on this (not shocking we disagree...typically do)!! I believe everyone has a story!! If you take the time to listen to them they ususally come with a lesson as well. I think the older the person...the better the stories and the more you can learn! You just have to STOP calling them old and realize that with age...comes wisdom.

real quick I got to say , in my opinion, wisdom comes from learning and not age. I know plenty of people , includeing my 56 year old father, whom keep making the same mistake over and over again. Anyway....

Im glad to hear things are better Rhino. I just turned 20 last month and I can honestly say I know how you feel/felt, for I am in the same position.I just hope that I possess the same resolve as you do and that I will be able to find a job I like and can creat a life worth living. Your story has given me a little hope, thank you.

Hmmm... Well the slight argument from some members represenataion of reality all have alot to agree with..

Firstly.. Its not always your choice as to what you do with your life. There is a such thing as being forced into a huge life decision or pretty much being trapped where you are. Cause & effect. No matter what your age. IE.. Certain things involving family will always take presidence over your own personal happiness. If it doesnt? You have no humanity in you. To allow others to suffer because of your decisions.. Even if this has never happened to you, it is possible and quite common.

Many people who never planned to have children or wives or whatever, will end up having this anyway. How many of you were not accidents?

So anyway...
I was broke at 19, but I was pretty happy. Disappointed at times with the path I had chosen. To not go to collage, but I was still happy. Definately free. Had a hard time paying rent more than once but somehow I always managed and I always had fun even though I had no extra money to spend.

The school thing sounds familier. I bet you always scored above average on the state tests you took every year in school. But school itself is a combination of boring, too competetive between classmates and really doesnt do much for some people.

Ex? She is doing what typical women who had something good, got used to it, got bored with it, realised the truth, but hates change and cant let go.. Do. Ive done it. I know alot of other women who have done it. Its normal.

The only way to really be sure how she feels, because right now even she doesnt know, IS to cut ties. She needs to have no contact with you at all. For at least a few months. If she moves on or her "feelings" fade, it wasnt real to begin with. Not real love anyway. Maybe a lesson in emotions. A great experience for both of you. But not one that was to stay.

If you dont cut ties she will continue to treat you like this until a "rebound" comes along and wooo's her away from you. That would be worse on you in the end. So just do it now.

Job? Do anything. Anything at all. Even fast food, hardware store, department store, gas station etc.. Doesnt matter. Just get something where you can escape yourself for awhile and focus on other people. Meanwhile look into things that revolve around what you really want to do. You can write letters, look for a sponser. Contact people in that area etc.. You need to be able to get from day to day by yourself (mentally, emotionally, financially) before you can let anyone else affect you in these areas. Dont get discouraged. You are young and you will make good and bad decisions but in the end there will always be something that will make your day worth it. Its usually the most trivial thing too. Hard to notice but it will be there.

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Originally Posted by BPelizabeth

I have to disagree with you on this (not shocking we disagree...typically do)!! I believe everyone has a story!! If you take the time to listen to them they ususally come with a lesson as well. I think the older the person...the better the stories and the more you can learn! You just have to STOP calling them old and realize that with age...comes wisdom.

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When you take what I said very literally and in the present, of course we can all -tell- a story. Tell me the story of your great great grandparents, and your great great great grandparents... Keep going back and you'll find that the rumor is eventually forgotten.

The stories we tell don't get better they evolve and become more rehearsed. What we remember that happened yesterday is already different than what actually happened. Compound those errors over the years and we fill in the blanks around the main points so of course the "story" will be better.

I think the child who says whatever is on their mind and asks the man who lost his legs in Vietnam, "What happened to your legs?" has a lot more "wisdom" than the "adult" who has their mind set before they walk out the door in the morning because they are still asking questions.

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

The school thing sounds familier. I bet you always scored above average on the state tests you took every year in school. But school itself is a combination of boring, too competetive between classmates and really doesnt do much for some people.

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Very true, I was great on all those standardized these that you have to take while in school. But when it came to the actually course work, I didn't put in as much effort as I should of and nearly didn't graduate high school because I started to give up. I only cared about classes that had some meaning to me, such as a marine biology class or any science class for that matter.

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Originally Posted by withonor

Ryan,

Whether it was the advice in this thread or reality kicking you in the face... You sound a lot better. I hope that you want things to work out for you, because then they will.

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I would say both. Mikes post was a big help, along with the others that said things. To know that I am not alone and not the only one that is/has gone through something like this, and that others came out fine in the long run.

I know that I want to do big things in my life and have big goals. So I need to stop looking around and seeing how bad things are now, when really they could be worse, and look towards the future and start working towards my goals and get on with life.

Im not much older than you but i can tell you from experience life isnt always the greatest. Ive gone through a lot in my life, had 3 close friends pass away this year and pretty much cut most of the people off in my life. Dont sweat the girl man. I speak from experience. I should have just packed my stuff and left but didnt and got dragged along for some of the worst and most low times to my life. I havent always done the right thing and it had caught up with me. All i can say is keep your head up because there are a ton of people out there who have never been able to experience most of the stuff you have. Before you can be back at the top you have to hit bottom. Stay positive and work your ass off. Because in the end it will all pay off. Theres a ton of things that have happened to me this year that i wont discuss on here but trust me things get better. Surround yourself with good people and do what you have to do.