Cleanest bel's ?

Hi,

What's the skinny on the bug eyes?

Could you share any pics showing it?

I had hoped to make lesser x lesser BEL's in the future but could still change track without too much extra heartache if I need to.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

What's the skinny on the bug eyes?

Could you share any pics showing it?

I had hoped to make lesser x lesser BEL's in the future but could still change track without too much extra heartache if I need to.


dr del

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I have personally never heard of this, but if bulging eyes would not affect the snake in any way, I would still breed for them.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

..lesser pied is not a BEL..

lesser x lesser and lesser x butter and butter x butter are all pretty good and are a great choice if you want an all white, patternless snake.

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Arent Lessers and butters the same?? how can you tell them apart?

It's hard to get a good pic of it but it is easy to see in person. They seem to hatch out totally normal looking and it starts becoming apparent as they grow. I don't think it happens to all of them but a good percentage do have it.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...1/DSCN2947.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...1/DSCN2944.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...1/DSCN2945.jpg

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Originally Posted by pfan151

That is not true. I have a lesser x lesser BEL, and a Lesser x Mojave BEL. Both look exactly the same as far as cleaness of the white goes. The only way I can tell them apart is that the Lesser x Mojaves does not have the bulging bug eyes that the Lesser x lesser BEL does (Just another little thing no one talks about). If I would have known about the eye problems I would have never tried to produce a Lesser x lesser BEL. I am hoping the Lesser x Mojave BEL does not develop this. I'll have to wait until it grows a bit to know for sure.

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every adult mojave x lesser i've seen has quite the yellow hue to them. pictures on here and in person. I havn't seen one stay pure white nor anything with mojave for that matter.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

every adult mojave x lesser i've seen has quite the yellow hue to them. pictures on here and in person. I havn't seen one stay pure white nor anything with mojave for that matter.

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Thats weird because every Lesser X Mojave and every Mocha X Mojave I have ever seen is pure white and ours is 250 grams and still completely white!

Hi,

Thank you for sharing those pictures.

I had truly never heard of that being a problem with Lessers. :(

Do butters suffer the same problem? I know I can't tell the difference from pics but if it avoided that problem I'd flippin well learn.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,


Do butters suffer the same problem? I know I can't tell the difference from pics but if it avoided that problem I'd flippin well learn.


dr del

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Can't say for sure but I would imagine it's the same since I think they are the exact same snake. Using mojave x lesser supposedly gets rid of it but I can't say for sure that is true either. I have learned never to believe anything when it comes to things like this until I prove it myself.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

every adult mojave x lesser i've seen has quite the yellow hue to them. pictures on here and in person. I havn't seen one stay pure white nor anything with mojave for that matter.

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How many lesser x lesser BEL's have you seen? I could take a pic of them right next to each other if you would like. All I can tell you is that I own one of each and they are indistinguishable as far a color goes.