Gargoyle

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

All the gargoyles I know of are cinnie x black pastel. At least up this way that is.

Bruce

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Yeesh... ever have a day where you type something know it is wrong and reread 10x and cannot see it...

Cinnie X Het red. Is a gargoyle, not a Black X Het red. :)

*DOH!!!*

Bruce

Uh Daniel?

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Originally Posted by Simpson Balls

Gargoyles are Cinni's to Het Reds. Not Super Cinni to Het Red!

Daniel

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Think about that for a second.

If a gargoyle expresses both het red and the cinnamon gene the only difference between the two pairings you mention would be the odds of making one. :rolleyes:

Your confusing the morphs of the parents with the genetics of the offspring.


dr del

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Originally Posted by Simpson Balls

Gargoyles are Cinni's to Het Reds. Not Super Cinni to Het Red!

Daniel

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A super cinnie can only give one gene for cinnie, so you will get 50% cinnies and 50% gargoyles from that pairing.

You can make a gargoyle from a cinnie or a super cinnie. :)

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Simpson Balls

Gargoyles are Cinni's to Het Reds. Not Super Cinni to Het Red!

Daniel

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Yes, I am aware of how the morph is made. THE PAIRING that Ralph did was Super Cinny to Het Red.

Thanks for your input...

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Originally Posted by Alice

Heather, would you mind posting pics? I've seen the gargoyles on Ralph's site and think they are really hot.

Thanks!

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http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1080594.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1080588.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1080602.jpg

check out this one ! http://crystalpalacereptiles.com/pro...s/gargoyle.jpg

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1080594.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1080588.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1080602.jpg

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WOW! Just amazing. Thanks Heather.

Thanks for posting pics of your guy, Heather. He is stunning! I've a black pastel female and HRA male I'm raising up... I'd seen Ralph's Cinny X HRA, but just the hatchling pics. They seem to get better with age! :gj:

What are you looking for ? You can't find black pastel or cinny or het red ?

I don't know about the black pastel or the cinny, but they are a bit easier to find usually. If you can't email me, I saw a few to sale up here in Canada.

but for the het red, you should contact Corey Woods, he have a few het red still for sale, and some older ones too I think. It's easier and fast to ship from Canada to US usually.

If you are looking at buying the combo, might be a bit harder, don't think that many were produced.

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Originally Posted by Alice

WOW! Just amazing. Thanks Heather.

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agreed, that is a great snake. :)