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  • 10-04-2009, 11:24 PM
    dracovolans
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Draigess View Post
    Which is why it should be a thread similer to the for sale threads here.. Meaning no replies are allowed. The member should simply be able to say so-n-so is good seller/good buyer etc.. Thats it. No chances for recourse.

    I don't think that's a good idea, it doesn't give others the chance to hear`the other side of the story.

    Just my .02
  • 10-04-2009, 11:25 PM
    nixer
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Draigess View Post
    Which is why it should be a thread similer to the for sale threads here.. Meaning no replies are allowed. The member should simply be able to say so-n-so is good seller/good buyer etc.. Thats it. No chances for recourse.

    i was think more along the lines of actually sticking to the facts i.e.
    good/bad
    reason/issue with the animal
    and when a problem arises it should be left between the buyer and seller not the click-by slammers which never gets an issue settled
  • 10-04-2009, 11:27 PM
    Soterios
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    I stand corrected, I didn't know he was retiring.
  • 10-04-2009, 11:30 PM
    rabernet
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Draigess View Post
    Huh.. Well my post on this in the forum feedback section was removed. So i guess someone is not happy with the idea of any "BOI" related threads on this forum. Legal liability or not. I wonder what kind of limits will be put on THIS forum for posting rep's for someone if the BOI does disappear.

    Its still very disappointing to think we may lose it. If we do, we will just need to rely on fellow breeders/buyers/sellers to give us permission to post them as a referral if we post animals for sale etc..

    Which many im sure would do, but this seems a bit self defeating as well. It would be like advertising for someone else on your own add.

    It was pulled, because it was a duplicate, essentially of this one. The admins have been aware of the BOI's tentative demise since Rich first started talking about it. I am about to head to bed and have a foggy brain right now because of Nyquil, but I'm sure that someone from the Admin team will weigh in more later with some feedback, regarding this topic.
  • 10-04-2009, 11:51 PM
    JLC
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    As Robin pointed out, the one thread was removed because it was essentially a duplicate of this one...as it gets really confusing to have two identical thread discussions running at the same time. If we wanted to keep anyone from talking about it, then this thread would be gone as well. ;)

    It is true that we have our own Inquiry/Feedback forum. However, it is NOT a copy of the BOI and is not intended to be so. It's run with an entirely different set of rules and procedures. At this time, we've no intention of changing that.

    I have communicated with Rich regarding the fate of the BOI and offered whatever help BP.net can give to continue to support the BOI and keep it running and open to the public as a free tool. Rich has neither rejected nor accepted any help from us at this time. Beyond that, there is little else we here at BP.net can do. It may very well turn out that the BOI stays up and running for years to come. Just because Rich said it MAY have to close on Jan 1st doesn't mean that it will. I believe it is premature to publicly discuss alternate BOI plans when it's not at all certain that the BOI is going to end.

    The administration of BP.net is not unaware of what is going on at Fauna and we are fully conscious of Rich's plans for retirement and what that could mean for the BOI as we know it today. It's our hope that things will work out so that Rich and Fauna and the BOI can continue to fulfill Rich's original vision for the Board of Inquiry and it will remain where it is, as it is...for as long as the community needs it to. But we are also aware of the chance of it coming to an end. Just because we're not making any public statements regarding the prospect does not mean we are not considering the impact to the herping community and considering ways that BP.net can help fill any gaps left should that unfortunate end occur. But these admin talks are NOT a matter for public discussion.

    I thank you all for your support of BP.net...and I am happy to suggest that anyone concerned about losing the BOI also throw your financial support to Fauna as well. Hopefully it will stay put for years to come.
  • 10-04-2009, 11:52 PM
    icygirl
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    I just read this and I'm speechless. Does freedom of speech not apply to the internet? Both Novak and Resler were American... How is it legal to sue someone for what they write?
  • 10-04-2009, 11:57 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by icygirl View Post
    I just read this and I'm speechless. Does freedom of speech not apply to the internet? Both Novak and Resler were American... How is it legal to sue someone for what they write?

    Not all laws make sense.
  • 10-05-2009, 12:02 AM
    nixer
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by icygirl View Post
    I just read this and I'm speechless. Does freedom of speech not apply to the internet? Both Novak and Resler were American... How is it legal to sue someone for what they write?

    freedom of speech does not apply to us commoners it only applies to the media or so it seems.
    slander and deformation of character isnt legal
  • 10-05-2009, 12:20 AM
    wilomn
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by icygirl View Post
    I just read this and I'm speechless. Does freedom of speech not apply to the internet? Both Novak and Resler were American... How is it legal to sue someone for what they write?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    Not all laws make sense.

    And yet, even for the simplest of matters, one must pay a mouthpiece to represent them in court. Win or lose, the mouthpiece is paid.

    It's a pretty sucky thing when you can't defend yourself because the other side has a legal "expert" looking for ways to subvert what is right.

    We all know right from wrong, lie from truth.

    Sigh....sometimes people just suck.

    Does anyone really use the BOI much anymore? I don't see much activity over there any more. Not even close to what it used to be.

    Eh.
  • 10-05-2009, 12:26 AM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: [B]BOI about to be NO more![/B]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    And yet, even for the simplest of matters, one must pay a mouthpiece to represent them in court. Win or lose, the mouthpiece is paid.

    It's a pretty sucky thing when you can't defend yourself because the other side has a legal "expert" looking for ways to subvert what is right.

    We all know right from wrong, lie from truth.

    Sigh....sometimes people just suck.

    Does anyone really use the BOI much anymore? I don't see much activity over there any more. Not even close to what it used to be.

    Eh.

    Agreed, it's all a big shame.
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