High White Spider?

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Originally Posted by Simpson Balls

Ummm.... Did you not get me in a recent post? I said "I don't like High White Spiders but I do like High White BumbleBees" I think it's a plan that would work. Keep it and then breed it and then sell it. Also can you guys please read the first post once again. Why does this happen to some post? Where people like me ask a question and it turns into a war after ten posts.

Daniel

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You should read his post a little more carfully. He said to buy something you like, keep it and breed it. Don't assume others didnt read your posts when you don't read others.

As far as what you could breed him to and make something cool. Any you breed him to could be cool, just depends on what you consider cool. Buy morphs you like and produce animals you like.

I think your decision to wait is a good one. Just think, you buy an animal for cheap, your gonna sell the offspring it produces for cheap. Better examples make better looking animals.

Hi,

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Originally Posted by Simpson Balls

Umm... I already said that. The reason is, is because he does not need the Spider morph no more in his projects and plans on expanding to something else.

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I did read that but felt it odd when coupled to a picture of it breeding a normal which would produce more spiders so figured I would ask and see if he had given you any more information.

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Originally Posted by Simpson Balls

Also he is selling it for 100 because he is having a hard time selling it which I find weird for a proven spider.

Daniel

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Yes - we find it wierd too. There may be many legitimate reasons for that but it is always wise to start cautious and be reassured later. :)


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I think I can answer the question in your first post below for you. :)

In this specific case it is because you do not include the qualifying information that lets people fully understand your thinking in the first post but do include all the words, concepts and phrases that throw up major red flags to people who have seen similar sentiments expressed before and watched it turn into a horrible, horrible situation.

I will underline all the things that should have been in the first post and bold all the words or phrases that really, really shouldn't ( or be phrased differently ) if you want to avoid these reactions;





This mismatch of info and phrases gave the impression you wanted to buy it only because it was cheap with no regard for the animal itself and we have seen people do similar things in the past that didn't turn out so well for the snake. :(

The snake involved is really low priced for its size and breeding status which makes most people who have been around a bit longer deeply suspicious until they have asked questions and been reassured everything is on the up and up. The fact you were unaware of the randomness of the white makes me wonder how aware you are of the wobble issue and the possible damage that can be caused by over breeding - all questions you would really want to ask before buying a breeding size spider at the end of a breeding season just as a matter of course. ( well I would being a belt and braces kind of guy :oops: ).

When coupled to your thread about buying wild caught snakes in bulk to re-sell not that long ago sends shivers up a lot of spines as it suggests you really might be looking at this hobby/ industry from the wrong perspective.

We do not know you and can only judge your intent and character by what you post on the forum - and since that is text based it is not always plain what someone really meant to say compared to the way you read it with no other clues.

Enthusiasm and dreams can easily come across as inconsistancy and money-hunger without the rest of the clues people get when talking face to face. This then taints everything else written afterwards and can give a totally false impression of someones character.

When you make a post re-read it to yourself and see if you can imagine anyone asking questions or taking offense then change the post to answer and avoid that happening. It will take you a bit longer to post a thread - but it does mean the thread has more of a chance of going in the direction you intended instead of getting sidetracked and not giving you the information you need.

Sorry, I didn't mean to type a novel at you but it was a complicated question and I thought it deserved an answer as accurate as I know how to give. :oops:


dr del

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I understand and yes I do think I should reword sometimes. Also I did not want to resell the wild caught snakes I had not intentions doing so. I would sell the babies but not the WC.

Daniel

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Originally Posted by matt71915

You should read his post a little more carfully. He said to buy something you like, keep it and breed it. Don't assume others didnt read your posts when you don't read others.

As far as what you could breed him to and make something cool. Any you breed him to could be cool, just depends on what you consider cool. Buy morphs you like and produce animals you like.

I think your decision to wait is a good one. Just think, you buy an animal for cheap, your gonna sell the offspring it produces for cheap. Better examples make better looking animals.

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Okay. I said I liked it when I saw the picture. The guy said it was a complete high white but after seeing the Picture it was not what he said it was. Also thanks for your opinion.



Daniel

Okay I am gonna buy the male Spider and also keep it to breed. No more conflict or talking of this thread please. I will keep the Spider when bought will not sell it.

Daniel

Can I just say, this thread sucked the life out of me. I'm tired now.

not to offend anyone, but what really bothers me is there is more and more ppl who have a site and name to sell reptiles and yet they are constantly asking basic questions and have maybe 5 animals if that. sure we all have to start somewhere, but there is breeders that dont have a site that have been in this business for alot longer than this forum has even been here.

Be careful buying an animal of that Morph for that low of a price. I saw a Male Pinstripe at a recent show they had him marked for $225 this animal was well on his way pushing at least 700g. Anyway my buddy runs a shop and knew the guy and asked him why he was at such a reduced price? His response was his hemipenes were messed up and he couldn't breed, other than that he was fine.

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Originally Posted by nixer

not to offend anyone, but what really bothers me is there is more and more ppl who have a site and name to sell reptiles and yet they are constantly asking basic questions and have maybe 5 animals if that. sure we all have to start somewhere, but there is breeders that dont have a site that have been in this business for alot longer than this forum has even been here.

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And this has what to do with the topic? If you would like start this thread in the Off Topic Cafe. Thats what questions like these are for in case you did not know:gj:;)

Daniel

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Originally Posted by Shadrach

Be careful buying an animal of that Morph for that low of a price. I saw a Male Pinstripe at a recent show they had him marked for $225 this animal was well on his way pushing at least 700g. Anyway my buddy runs a shop and knew the guy and asked him why he was at such a reduced price? His response was his hemipenes were messed up and he couldn't breed, other than that he was fine.

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Oh. I'll have to ask him questions like that when I call him tommorow.

Daniel