Those Ultramels in the photo section!

The Crider line and Vin Russo snakes all come from the same WC founder animal. My female Crider has dark red eyes that it takes a flashlight to see. I think they are a form of T+ Albino but not the same morph as the Caramel. I have seen the VPI Burgundy in the flesh and she looks almost identical to my Crider female. I have an Ultramel as well and he is slightly diffrent looking than the Crider but nothing I would not just call natural variation in Normals showing itself within the morph. There are a couple breeders in this country with Ultramels that call them their own line of Caramels but they all trace back to were the ultramels come from. From my observations I would be shocked if Ultramels, Burgundy, and Crider/VR snakes were not the same morph from diffrent WC Founders. Just like the Toffee and Candy are almost certainly the same morph as well. Only time will tell.

Ryan Young