ECLARK - mites

I thought they went at it in the ads Ed had up.:D


Seems to be bad blood there even before the mite thread.

I dunno


to me (and this is ALL im going to say about this, b/c im not too sure of my point of view)...

some PAM wouldnt do it for me. I would want a partial discount on the snakes because :

Mites on a snake does NOT = a quality animal.

I pay breeders extra dough for quality. End of story.

I agree with this. If the animals are guaranteed to be 100% healthy upon arrival, I would expect some kind of compensation if they are anything but that. A responsible seller would own up to their mistakes. Not only does Shelby need PAM to rid the mites, but it is going to take her a lot of time, effort, and probably mental stress worrying about the rest of her collection to fix the problem.

I am not saying that Ed has not compensated, because I don't know exactly how he made it up to Shelby, but that's my opinion.

The very first snake I ever sold a few years ago, I sent out with mites out of ignorance. It also turned out to be a male instead of a female like I advertised, as the person who probed it obviously wasn't as qualified as they led me to believe. The buyer immediately notified me with his concerns, and since I was 100% at fault, I worked with him every way I could to make things right again. We ended up coming to an aggreement that only cost me a few exrtra bucks, and even after the whole situation, he was pleased with the way the transaction ended and still volunteered to give me positive feedback for my customer service alone.

That, IMO, goes just as far as the quality of the animals that you are selling.

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Originally Posted by adizziedoll

I dunno


to me (and this is ALL im going to say about this, b/c im not too sure of my point of view)...

some PAM wouldnt do it for me. I would want a partial discount on the snakes because :

Mites on a snake does NOT = a quality animal.

I pay breeders extra dough for quality. End of story.

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:rolleyes:

My God 25 pages and still going. How could there be anything new to say.
I guess at this point it's like tennis
Back and forth, back and forth.

So what can everyone take away from a thread like this..? Quarantine everything new, no matter who it comes from or how long you've been keeping, or whatever.

I agree, all that can happen from this point on is everyone taking sides and argueing with one another. theres something to take out of this thread, but you will have to do alot of reading between the lines. :salute:

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Originally Posted by jotay

:rolleyes:

My God 25 pages and still going. How could there be anything new to say.
I guess at this point it's like tennis
Back and forth, back and forth.

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

So what can everyone take away from a thread like this..? Quarantine everything new, no matter who it comes from or how long you've been keeping, or whatever.

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Bingo!
Very well said.

Funny, apparently when I posted almost exactly that, I got two neg points. (karma)
Shrug. If someone has issue with me posting my opinion on a thread I guess I get neg points. At least one signs his.
I don't see that there should be such a panic over a snake having mites. It's not desired, it's not what should happen, but a lot of people get mites sometimes.
I stated way back about the "If you quarentine your animals that you buy, it shouldn't be an issue" and got slammed over that, saying I blamed the buyer. Whatever.
Mites are bad. Ed Clark didn't seem that concerned over the fact that he sent a snake with mites. That was established early on, but it's 25 pages, and spilled over into another site as well. I had mites one time too. I killed them off with PAM(Wonderful product by the way, never spray your cricket bins, NOT a good idea, even if you DID see a roach).
BTW, I recently got some pine shred from Tractor Supply, and it had mite-like bugs in it. I obviously don't use it for reptile bedding, but EWW.
Wolfy

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Funny, apparently when I posted almost exactly that, I got two neg points. (karma)
Shrug. If someone has issue with me posting my opinion on a thread I guess I get neg points. At least one signs his.
I don't see that there should be such a panic over a snake having mites. It's not desired, it's not what should happen, but a lot of people get mites sometimes.
I stated way back about the "If you quarentine your animals that you buy, it shouldn't be an issue" and got slammed over that, saying I blamed the buyer. Whatever.
Mites are bad. Ed Clark didn't seem that concerned over the fact that he sent a snake with mites. That was established early on, but it's 25 pages, and spilled over into another site as well. I had mites one time too. I killed them off with PAM(Wonderful product by the way, never spray your cricket bins, NOT a good idea, even if you DID see a roach).
BTW, I recently got some pine shred from Tractor Supply, and it had mite-like bugs in it. I obviously don't use it for reptile bedding, but EWW.

Wolfy

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It's a shame you got neg rep for stating your opinion. But as I am sure you know there are some really great people on here and then there are some who, IMO, are just a little bit to full of themselves.

Too those of you who think Mites are just the price of doing business in the reptile world, I feel sorry for your collections. I have had mites twice, one time from wc Savu Pythons. Lucky for me, they were in a cage across the room from my GTP's and Balls, and Boas, and I caught it right away. The second time, I made the mistake of not really quarantining a snake I got from a well known breeder, and put a boa in with an Albino Boa. I ASSUMED getting a snake from a well known person means you do not get mites sent to you, and I was wrong, and lesson learned! Now, all my new animals, and I almost have a closed collection now, are put into a quarantine rack upstairs, until I am satisfied with their condition. So, mites do happen, but they should not happen, you should not expect mites with ANY snake purchase. Lesson here, do not assume because you buy from a "NAME" person, that you will definetly get a clean snake. I have not had mites in over 5 years, and plan on keeping it that way. It is almost a good idea to spray any cage that will get a new snake with Prevent O Mite before the new snake even has arrived. Mites piss me off, and people that state that mites are not a big deal piss me off even more! They are lazy, period.

Dave