ECLARK - mites

My question is why would you (Ed) not make sure that the animals you ship out are not in tip top shape before shipping?

That in itself shows me it's more about the money than the animal! :colbert:

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Well this was a nice 25 minute read....

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

You are completely wrong about Greed and wanting to make a
quick buck, the balls that came in with the mites was something I bought for myself to keep and were not going to be sold. I have a quarantine area, but totally blew it on this one. :(

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If they were for YOU, why would you put them in the for sale room with 8 other animals, 2 of which were Aprils?

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sorry about giving you the gift that keeps on giving. :)



That is just unbelievable.....WOW...

I dont have a problem with people who buy animals and sell them....As long as the animals are healthy, feeding, etc.. AND it is mentioned that they did not produce them....That is ok in my book...

Justin,

There were a bunch of comments you made in this thread that couldnt be more wrong...I dont feel like going back and looking but one comment that stood out was the Mike Wilbanks comment....You say he's a pro and he knows what he is doing....Shipping 5 animals in one bag is NOT the right thing to do...I dont care how big the bag is, every animal should be shipped individually....

The most snakes I have ever received at once was 5 from John Berry...A pied, pastel, and 3 normals....ALL were packed individually in round plastic containers....

I have recieved multiple snakes at once from Neil Golli, John Berry, and Alan Bosch...ALL of the snakes were bagged individually and I was VERY happy with that.......

There is just no excuse for shipping a snake with mites....If it were me personally, I would have seen the mites on the animal BEFORE shipping which I would then contact April and held off shipping until I dealt with the mites...Since it would have been my fault, I would have treated the mites, not ship them off into someone elses collection.......

Anyways...that's all ill add for now....I need to get up and stretch my legs now......

Now it looks like Ed has put a lock down on all of his ad's on Fauna. Guess he doesn't want the people over there to find out that he has had a problem with Mite's. Probably doesn't want anyone to link to this thread...again, like someone did yesterday.

I don't know if I'm more shocked or sickened with this whole thing. Maybe it is just me but it doesn't seem like Ed is playing by what he has said.... or is going to.


Ed... I LOVE that little snake I got from you, but I can not support someone who doesn't practice good quarentine, has a mite issue and yet is still throwing ad's up left and right and is stating that your snakes are "clean and in great health". Maybe I'm just reading to much in to this but I know others agree with me.

*shakes head in disbelief*
I'm trying to tell myself that you aren't in this hobby just for the money, but I'm now having a really hard time believing it since your actions are speaking louder then words.

Allison, the mite problem was very minor, by that I mean It was in 4 shoeboxes in 1 small rack. I eliminated the problem! what distresses me the most was the fact that I missed it and sent a snake out and did not know about it, when april sent me a message she stated she set them up with tubs sprayed with provent a mite. she had things well under control and I responded by sending her a can of provent a mite.


Did you not start a thread about you having respitory problems because of poor husbandry practices with all your snakes? thats much worse than some mites that can be very easily eliminate.

The snakes Im selling were no where near the rack that HAD mites. The snakes that are being treated will not be sold for along time, until Im 100% sure they are clean.

You can shake your head in disbelief all you want but the facts of the matter is everyone may have to deal with mites one time or another. Pete Kahl your boss has had to deal with them and lots of other guys and gals have had to. snakes get mites sometimes, its a fact of life. I just hope I dont have to deal with them anytime soon. :)

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Did you not start a thread about you having respitory problems because of poor husbandry practices with all your snakes? thats much worse than some mites that can be very easily eliminate

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But she has never sent a snake that wasn't quarantined to someone with a large collection.

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Now it looks like Ed has put a lock down on all of his ad's on Fauna.

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Which ones? I was just there but none of his ads are locked to prevent replies.

Steve, I had to lock my ads due to JAS BALLS. need I say more. :P

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Which ones? I was just there but none of his ads are locked to prevent replies.

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

Steve, I had to lock my ads due to JAS BALLS. need I say more. :P

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Ohh.
Nope.:D

Steve I'd just like to add that Jas only linked to this thread on to Ed's Fauna Ad's. Warning people that Ed's claim that they are "healthy and clean" may not be the complete case.


Also Ed,
I was sold a very sick snake from someone actually on this very here site. Was I told she was sick? NO! All I knew is that she had a "bad eye" and was probably blind. If I could have sent her back, I would have in a heart beat but I'm unable to ship. I would have saved a lot of money and a lot of head aches. So I did what I had to do and did take her to the vet a.s.a.p and did a strict quarentine on her on the other side of my house, in a spare bed room. She was never any where near my snakes.... but some how all my snakes did get that bad RI too. Just like mites, they can spread pretty easy. It was pretty bad. So bad to the point that Pete didn't want me coming in to work around his snakes. I don't blame him one bit, but I just wish that the seller of this female snake was completly honest. I actually got her to breed but after all the horrible things she and the rest of my snakes went though, I decided that I wouldn't attempt it this year.

Also if I had any snakes at that time for sale, I would have not sold them for a good long while since it took me so long to get rid of it 100% out of everyone. One sick snake cost me a good amount of money in vet bills and nearly took a few lives too.