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Originally Posted by anatess

So, you're saying, we were wrong for owning a monkey? I wonder why... when monkey and family are all happy, and everybody else I know who has one are great keepers as well. I guess I better place a call to Cameron Diaz letting her know she's disgusting...

are we wrong for owning snakes as well? how about the parrot? what's the difference exactly? so... where can I find this list of okay-not-okay things to own?

or, maybe you just don't know enough about monkeys and the people who keep them or the monkey-keeping hobby in general? just wondering...

It's kinda ironic when ye of the snake world come up in arms against python trade bans yet make blanket statements about monkeys.

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Hey, relax.

Some animals cope in captivity better than other but I believe most wild animals belong in the wild WHERE THEY ARE MEANT TO BE. There IS such a thing as appreciating things in their natural habitat. I'm not one to see a beautiful monkey, tiger, etc. (animals that need space) in the wild and say "hey why don't I put that in a cage". I feel certain snakes do better than other animals in captivity. The differences is, monkeys are animals that in the wild move around constantly, swing from tree to tree searching for food and maintaining the troops territory putting one in a cage, even if it was raised that way, is going against its instinct. It no longer has a troop, trees, or the freedom it deserves when its in a cage. Parrots in the wild, fly. When you put a parrot in a cage, it flutters from branch to branch, and if you clip its wings it doesn't even flutter. No need to get angry, but do you see what im getting at? Ball pythons, in the wild, hide, and don't move around a whole lot so captivity isn't so different than the wild to them.

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Originally Posted by Angelianmickie

my brother looks like a monkey does that count?

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Yes, I believe it does ;)

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Originally Posted by zackw419

Hey, relax.

Some animals cope in captivity better than other but I believe most wild animals belong in the wild WHERE THEY ARE MEANT TO BE. There IS such a thing as appreciating things in their natural habitat. I'm not one to see a beautiful monkey, tiger, etc. (animals that need space) in the wild and say "hey why don't I put that in a cage". I feel certain snakes do better than other animals in captivity. The differences is, monkeys are animals that in the wild move around constantly, swing from tree to tree searching for food and maintaining the troops territory putting one in a cage, even if it was raised that way, is going against its instinct. It no longer has a troop, trees, or the freedom it deserves when its in a cage. Parrots in the wild, fly. When you put a parrot in a cage, it flutters from branch to branch, and if you clip its wings it doesn't even flutter. No need to get angry, but do you see what im getting at? Ball pythons, in the wild, hide, and don't move around a whole lot so captivity isn't so different than the wild to them.

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Not angry at all... just find it kinda condescending, is all.

I'm seeing what you're getting at... but, you are using the same argument that PETA or even the president of the humane society makes on why dogs shouldn't be pets.

Ball pythons do not stay in a rack in the wild. Ball pythons do not eat f/t in the wild. Ball pythons do not get handled in the wild. Dogs stay in packs in the wild and do not eat kibble.

The Philippine Tarsier do not stay in troops. They live and hunt singly until breeding season when they find a mate. Without private individuals in the island of Bohol taking on the challenge of keeping tarsiers in captivity, that species would be extinct by now. The common marmoset thrive in small family groups. Owners of common marmosets usually own a pair or a trio. And just like dogs, monkeys tend to adopt the human family as their troop. That is why the Philippine Tarsier, who are individualists, do not breed well in captivity because of the close proximity to humans.

What I'm trying to say is... try to avoid generalizations and prejudices (you got me when you called me disgusting) unless you know exactly what you're talking about. Because, as owners of snakes, we get a lot of that coming our way that I would think we would learn not to do it to other owners of their own brand of exotics.

Okay, off the podium now...

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Originally Posted by anatess

Not angry at all... just find it kinda condescending, is all.

I'm seeing what you're getting at... but, you are using the same argument that PETA or even the president of the humane society makes on why dogs shouldn't be pets.

Ball pythons do not stay in a rack in the wild. Ball pythons do not eat f/t in the wild. Ball pythons do not get handled in the wild. Dogs stay in packs in the wild and do not eat kibble.

The Philippine Tarsier do not stay in troops. They live and hunt singly until breeding season when they find a mate. Without private individuals in the island of Bohol taking on the challenge of keeping tarsiers in captivity, that species would be extinct by now. The common marmoset thrive in small family groups. Owners of common marmosets usually own a pair or a trio. And just like dogs, monkeys tend to adopt the human family as their troop. That is why the Philippine Tarsier, who are individualists, do not breed well in captivity because of the close proximity to humans.

What I'm trying to say is... try to avoid generalizations and prejudices (you got me when you called me disgusting) unless you know exactly what you're talking about. Because, as owners of snakes, we get a lot of that coming our way that I would think we would learn not to do it to other owners of their own brand of exotics.

Okay, off the podium now...

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You make very intelligent points, and I respect that. I'm sorry you felt the comment was directed towards you. I'm just so used to seeing people with exotics that aren't meeting their needs. Those are the people that disgust me. When you adopt the challenge of taking care of an animal such as a tiger or a chimpanzee, I expect for their needs to be met to the fullest and it seems as though most of the time, people are in over their heads and have the animal just to have it. It seems you aren't one of these people.

Everyone untuck your panties with the unneeded attitudes here.This thread was started because i found a post on craigslist.So if you need to add unneeded comments about the our wants to keep ANY animal start your own thread.Now back to our forums