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Thoughts on Hybrids

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  • 03-07-2009, 12:16 AM
    azpythons
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    What do ants domesticate and brreed?????? im very interested in this...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    Because aside from ants, humans are the only other species to actively domesticate and purposely breed animals for our use.

    We are not of nature anymore, not since we were hunter gatherers. We've gone above and beyond destroying it for our own needs, regardless of the fact that we need nature to survive.

    Animals are a part of a chain. They succumb to nature's whims, chance etc.

    Humans work to never having to succumb to chance. We do things to nature that would never occur without us. We work to get away from the "cruelty" of nature.

  • 03-07-2009, 12:25 AM
    ginagizzy
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    I dont have any questions about hybrids>>> im trying to see if someone can give me some info< my ball python has not had food since september and at least @ nights a week shes going nuts in her cage doesnt stop at all and trys to break out
  • 03-07-2009, 12:35 AM
    azpythons
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ginagizzy View Post
    I dont have any questions about hybrids>>> im trying to see if someone can give me some info< my ball python has not had food since september and at least @ nights a week shes going nuts in her cage doesnt stop at all and trys to break out

    um...theres other topics under which this would be appropriate..but id say give it some food...maybe??
  • 03-07-2009, 11:04 AM
    ginagizzy
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by azpythons View Post
    um...theres other topics under which this would be appropriate..but id say give it some food...maybe??

    I know i wasnt in the right topic place to discuss but i have no idea what im doing and thought someone would b nice enough to help ... we have feed her what do u think i just ignore her come on... shes been to the vet nothing wrong she just wont eat... and is it normal that shes like crazy at night time please help no arguements please i just need some help
  • 03-07-2009, 11:10 AM
    Slim
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ginagizzy View Post
    I know i wasnt in the right topic place to discuss but i have no idea what im doing and thought someone would b nice enough to help ... we have feed her what do u think i just ignore her come on... shes been to the vet nothing wrong she just wont eat... and is it normal that shes like crazy at night time please help no arguements please i just need some help

    Then please start a new thread in the Husbandry section, and we will be happy to give you plenty of advise.
  • 03-07-2009, 03:17 PM
    Bluebead
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by azpythons View Post
    What do ants domesticate and brreed?????? im very interested in this...

    Aphids. They milk them.


    IMO little Poodles are an abomination. They should have a lethal gene.... that would be alot better lol.

    I like Hybrids. They should definitely be done responsibly but IMO as long as the wild genome is intact captive/pet animals' genetics are up to the keepers.
    Microchipping and informing/educating alll owners of hybrid animals is just good sense and reasonable.

    I am interested to know if colour mutations will show up in hybrids, for example what would a BP spider gene look like on a carpet??? anything???

    In any event it is obvious that hybrids are here to stay; the best thing we can do is approach it with responsibility.
  • 03-07-2009, 06:23 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Microchipping is reasonable.. IF the animal sold is big enough to chip. Most baby snakes, lizards etc, are WELL under the size limit for microshipping, so it's just not do-able. I'd like any ideas on permament marking, I called three vets to check on chipping and not one will do a hatchling tegu.
  • 03-07-2009, 06:54 PM
    nixer
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    Because aside from ants, humans are the only other species to actively domesticate and purposely breed animals for our use.

    We are not of nature anymore, not since we were hunter gatherers. We've gone above and beyond destroying it for our own needs, regardless of the fact that we need nature to survive.

    Animals are a part of a chain. They succumb to nature's whims, chance etc.

    Humans work to never having to succumb to chance. We do things to nature that would never occur without us. We work to get away from the "cruelty" of nature.

    for some reason i do recall hunting last year and we still gather just now we gather money to trade for food since obviously everyone in the world cannot grow every food wanted.
  • 03-07-2009, 08:18 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nixer View Post
    for some reason i do recall hunting last year and we still gather just now we gather money to trade for food since obviously everyone in the world cannot grow every food wanted.

    You clearly don't understand the terminology I'm using, or you're being sarcastic. :rolleyes:
  • 03-08-2009, 04:45 AM
    azpythons
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    man if ants breed there own animals how are dolphins widely considered the smartest animal...
  • 03-08-2009, 09:17 AM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Ants do breeding of aphids as instinct and hive mind. Dolphins are problem solvers, rather like chimps. Ants are no good at something outside of their normal routine.
  • 03-08-2009, 09:52 AM
    stormwulf133
    Re: Thoughts on Hybrids
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ThyTempest View Post
    I have no problems with hybrids. I can see why people are opposed to them, but I dont hear too many people complaining about genetically engineered (aka hybrid in most cases) food crops to keep production efficient. Just my 2 cents.

    I think people don't realize how many hybrids they come across on a day to day basis. Some of our livestock, a lot of our plants, and many many of our pets. We freely accept certain hybrids. Though not known as fact, the ferret, is thought by a lot of people to be a hybrid. Some people in fact think the dog is not directly from the wolf but possibly other canine species as well. Everyone in the fish community hates the blood parrot cichlid and the flowerhorn, but freely purchases the humble platy (swordtail/variatus/and one i cant remember) Thats a cross. In fact they say most of the swordtails you buy have platy blood in them.

    Myself, something does slightly bother me about hybrids. I also try to let go of that however. I don't see the harm in it. So what if it messes up the bloodline? We aren't releasing these things into the wild, we are creating pets.

    so says the humble owner of a creamsicle corn snake....
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