Do you kill snakes you find in your yard?

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Originally Posted by mooingtricycle

I was a kid, and we have Timbers as well as Copperheads up here. Never had a problem! I knew that if i came across a snake that i couldnt identify, i would leave it alone!

I say, have some common sense, and check your yard before your kids play, if they are THAT much of a concern and you live in a very active area for snakes. Take some initiative! Why not be responsible for your childrens saftey, AND animals by preventing a problem, possibly before it starts?

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

LOL... that is exactly what I do. If there is a water moccasin in my back yard, that sucker is history! Then he is fish food!

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I think what he's referring to by being responsible is to NOT kill it... getting rid of venomous snakes is not hard.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

I think what he's referring to by being responsible is to NOT kill it... getting rid of venomous snakes is not hard.

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:) Thanks.

She! though. :gj:

All we get around here is corns and garters and the occasional rattler or black rat snakes so I don't kill them. I catch them and play with them for a bit and then take them far enough away and let them go. Minus the rattlesnake. I put thick gloves on for that - no play time.

In MI it would be impossible for a Ball or Burm or most pet snakes to survive too long with the night drops but I'd take them in and keep them haha

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Originally Posted by mooingtricycle

:) Thanks.

She! though. :gj:

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i voted no.. i get lots of venomous snakes in my yard but i live about 20ft from a huge dried river bed... but the crazyest thing the happened was when an escaped yellow anaconda ended up in my garage.. it was my neighbor's down the street..

Even on a snake forum you get a lot of dumb responses about snakes.

Even supposed snake people do not know the snakes that occur in their own backyard. how sad.

Some rattlesnakes are very delicate, when they are relocated they often times do not survive.

It should not be a matter of relocating a snake, but a matter of dealing with the fact that you live in a certain species' habitat.

I expect the general public to be ignorant when it comes to snakes, but "snake" people...LOL come on!

There are 10,000 venomous snake bites in the united states each year. 8 people die. Your odds are pretty good of surviving if you are bitten.

The majorioty of the bites occur in a situation where the human is touching or attempting to touch the snake...in other words they could've avoided the situation.

True, sometimes people do experience death from a venomous snake bite, but your odds are much better at dying from some other cause. You are 500 times more likely to die from lightening than a venomous snakebite in the United States.

So, even if you do not live in a venomous snake infested area, you should lock yourself and your family inside your home so that there is zero chance that anything you encounter will kill you.

No snakes in Chicago.

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Originally Posted by redpython

It should not be a matter of relocating a snake, but a matter of dealing with the fact that you live in a certain species' habitat.

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How many kids do you have?

another interesting fact... the poll shows like 95% of the people voting no. However the actual typed replies show many more would if it were a venemous species.

Relocating sounds like a great idea, just not one that happens here. There is nobody I can call to "relocate" a water moccasin. Also, to be clear, I don't live on a big property backing up to a nature reserve... nor do I live out in the woods somewhere. I live in a community with LOTS of cookie cutter houses.... the traditional florida kind where your neighbors house is literally 5 feet away from yours. No woods. Nothing but houses and sewage retention ponds in this immediate area.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

No woods. Nothing but houses and sewage retention ponds in this immediate area.

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All the more reason you can take preventative mesaures in your yard, to keep snakes out.

Jason made a good point, that some rattlers are delicate and do not do well when relocated, and that was something i had forgotten about. ( thanks for pointing that out, it should be mentioned to anyone looking to "relocate" snakes from their yards.

Your children playing in a yard where your native species might be hanging out, is not an excuse to kill those snakes. BUT your children would be good enough reason for you take a more proactive role in prevention in the first place.

There is NO reason you cannot find other means in which to protect your children from venomous species other than your own unwillingness to find a better way to protect your children.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Just an interesting observation.... Seems like most that are ABSOLUTELY against it are ones that live in areas that don't have hots, or don't have kids, or both.

The ones that feel this way and don't have kids... consider your neighbors kids.

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I don't kill them and we regularly get rattlesnakes in our backyard - and I have two kids.

What good is killing one or two snakes going to do? I bag them and deliver them to a wildlife relocation center/hospital in our area. We always seem to find more. As someone else said, if your backyard is habitat - it's habitat. Killing the odd one you see out in the open doesn't mean your kids aren't still going to run the risk of being bit.

I keep our firewood and other stacks of materials well away from where the children play and have fenced the area off. Educating the kids and relocating potential habitats away from where my kids and other pets play has worked fine for me.

Every few weeks I'll check the firewood and other building material piles and bag any rattlers I see. I get maybe four or five a year.

I vote No, and trust me, we have our fair share of Hots on my new land ( Five acres, two acre pond on it, wooded area, see where im going?)

If I can remove it, I will.I see no point in killing it when removing it is just as effective. But, I do not recommend anyone trying to remove a hot without knowing what they are doing. If I see one not close to any trails or passing through I just leave it be. Many times Ive gotten close ( less than an inch, under the foot close) to steping on Hots and none have even flinched. Though it does scare the Crap out of me, I cant bring myself to kill them. I bring a hook around sometimes because id never reach under something with my hands, its all about knowing the basic things to do which I think would be great to teach your kids just so they know.

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Originally Posted by redpython

There are 10,000 venomous snake bites in the united states each year. 8 people die. Your odds are pretty good of surviving if you are bitten.

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Surviving, yes, but in a lot of pain.

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True, sometimes people do experience death from a venomous snake bite, but your odds are much better at dying from some other cause. You are 500 times more likely to die from lightening than a venomous snakebite in the United States.

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What are the odds of severe damage to your body from a venemous snake bite? Do the odds go up for children?

We live up in il we have snakes but no poisonous snakes we live by a few ponds and the fox river so we get alittle bit of every things snakes frogs turtles.i wouldn't hurt any anmal thats not going to harm any 1 else :banana:

I definantly don't...there are plenty of others that do that I know of though.
When I worked at a local pet store, I had a woman bring in the head of a harmless gopher snake, telling me she thought it was a rattler. I think a lot of the people who do kill snakes on their property do so either because they are uneducated about the animals, and view all of them as a threat, or they do it for fun.
As a kid growing up I saw a lot of snakes killed out of sport. I doubt I'd even kill a rattler if it bit me...

I also have 2 small boys, but do not kill any snake, hot or not that I find in my florida backyard.

Nope, if it's a venomous snake I take my hook and bag them and relocate them to a area near my uncle, hardly anyone out where he is.

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Originally Posted by candyman88

We live up in il we have snakes but no poisonous snakes we live by a few ponds and the fox river so we get alittle bit of every things snakes frogs turtles.i wouldn't hurt any anmal thats not going to harm any 1 else :banana:

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VERY few people get POISONOUS snakes in their yard... :rolleyes:

Not anymore I don't, but I have been guilty in the past.

The only child that i personally know that took a hot bite was from a copperhead.

The doctors told the parents that she may loose a finger, but nothing happened and she is fine.

I do know a couple others that have taken hot bites. One from a cottonmouth...the hosptial probably did more damage to his thumb than the actual snake bite.

The other was a copperhead bite and the person did not seek treatment.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

VERY few people get POISONOUS snakes in their yard... :rolleyes:

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-Snickers.- Agreed.

No... I have found a couple baby copperheads and we just get them in a bucket and release them deeper in the woods. I dont like the killing of any animal really. And especially if the snake is in his habitat, I mean they only have so much space to live in. And where I live that space is growing smaller by the day. you dont see too many copperheads around here and from what i hear they dont lay as much or have as many in their clutches. So my answer is definitely no!

Mike, seems like you and I are the practical cold-hearted ones out here. :rolleye2:

Okay guys, I hear ya... the only bad snake is a dead snake.

BUT... listen. I have a 5 and 7 year old. Yes, they know A LOT about snakes - from the books they read. Have they ever seen a diamond back? Yeah, in the book. Maybe in the zoo (do they have one in the zoo, Mike?). A water mocassin? Yeah, at the pet store. A coral snake? Yeah, in the book and that one Bindi the Jungle Girl episode. Would they recognize one if it slithers down the backyard? Well..... I'm not leaving that up to chance. So yeah, they probably won't die if they get bit - PROBABLY. Am I going to take that chance? HECK NO. Nobody dies from falling off the swingset too. But, when my son flew off the swing and shattered his elbow, I cannot begin to tell you how difficult it was for my husband and I to sit there and wait while my son went to surgery - all these dreadful things going through our heads - would he have any bad reactions to general anesthesia, what if he doesn't wake up, what if the bone cannot be set and he'll lose mobility in that arm. Anything can happen out there. I am not about to willingly put my kids through that experience if I have anything to do about it.

I live in the city. We don't usually go out the backyard and see a copperhead. Most of our neighbors have young kids as well. We are one of the very few in our 150+ family neighborhood who can identify a racer snake. I feel that it is even more of a danger for my little kids to see a hot one out there because they THINK they know everything about it and have that "false confidence". There's a reason you have to be certified to own a hot - because you have to know what you're doing before you go "snake hooking" it. I don't know of anybody in my neighborhood who has that certification. I can see this now - people saying - that's why you need to educate your kids about not touching hots... Okay, try that on 5 and 7 year old boys and let me know how it works out for ya...

So, if I ever find an aggressive water mocassin in the backyard while the kids are out playing and the husband is not around, I'm fairly certain he's going to be fish food. It is EXACTLY the same thing if I would be driving, and an animal - be it a dog, a cat, or whatever - crosses the road, and I have kids in the back, and I can't be confident that if I apply the brakes or swerve that the car won't turn turtle, or skid, or whatever, heck - I'm running over that thing whatever it is. The safety of my kids ALWAYS come first. ALWAYS.

By the way, those of you who said to call animal control or whatever to relocate the snake - have you ever done it? Because I have (before I found out that the racer snakes living in my hedge are non-venomous), and they charge $425.00 to take the snake out.

My heart says 'no' and my reality is 'yes'.

We have 64 acres in eastern Oregon. Big rattlesnake country. Not evil, nasty rattlesnakes that would sooner kill you than warn you, but rattlesnakes none the less. Some years are snake years while other years aren't. That's how they breed.

The older grandkids know the sound. The younger ones don't. When my own kids were little they didn't know the sound until they were old enough. When they were old enough to know the sound, they thought they were old enough to wrangle them. Wrong. Call someone? Ummm, even if we had a phone out there, the closest rancher would come with his .22.

If a rattler comes into the homestead, we shoot it. They return to the same place to breed, so relocation is kind of a drag. If the kids are out of the homestead area, then they are with adults and when we run across a snake (or vice-versa) the snake gets left alone.

It's just that simple for us. We're almost 2 hours from the closest hospital and doctor. We won't take a chance with one of the kids being bit. We give our dogs the rattlesnake vaccine each May; they don't make them for humans!!

Rattler bites are a drag and cause pain and sickness, hospital and fluids, and it's a real drag. I don't advocate the killing of animals nor do I advocate the harming of children. We do the best we can out there to respect the environment and all the critters in it, and sometimes that means we need to kill something to protect something else. It's just a reality.

No. We get a few venomous species around here, but I have done my best to educate the kids on what they can and can not touch. And they are still younger, so they aren't in the yard without myself or my wife out there with them.

But we have only found two snakes in our yard. An eastern diamondback (which are protected), and a coachwhip. Both times they went back into the woods on their own.

I do see the argument with kids. That makes a lot of sense. I do not have kids and therefore did not consider that. I would have to be in the situation to make that decision. For me right now though I do not kill them. I would be a little more hesitant moving a rattle snake than a copperhead though. I live in a pretty heavily wooded area though and I know even if I kill or move a snake there is just gonna be another one the next day. I think it just comes with where I am living and it is something I have to deal with. In all honesty there are so many more dangerous things to worry about.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

another interesting fact... the poll shows like 95% of the people voting no. However the actual typed replies show many more would if it were a venemous species.

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I was under the impression we weren't talking just venomous snakes, but all snakes.
This thread has certainly gone off towards "just venomous snakes deserve to be killed". :rolleyes:

I think all mosquitos/ irritating bugs, disease ridden birds, large road crossing/ roaming herds of dangerous animals, frogs, toads and squirrels need to be killed when met. They cause so much damage to cars and people. Oh, forgot turkeys. We got a lot this year running amok, pooing on things and running into cars.

It's only right.

Oh, and also dihydrogen monoxide. Yes, it is a big killer. It actually forms WEAPONS of mass destruction that will break off of a colony and spear any helpless creature walking below.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I was under the impression we weren't talking just venomous snakes, but all snakes.
This thread has certainly gone off towards "just venomous snakes deserve to be killed". :rolleyes:

I think all mosquitos/ irritating bugs, disease ridden birds, large road crossing/ roaming herds of dangerous animals, frogs, toads and squirrels need to be killed when met. They cause so much damage to cars and people. Oh, forgot turkeys. We got a lot this year running amok, pooing on things and running into cars.

It's only right.

Oh, and also dihydrogen monoxide. Yes, it is a big killer. It actually forms WEAPONS of mass destruction that will break off of a colony and spear any helpless creature walking below.

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Who said it was only about hots? My personal belief; kill a species I find in my yard that poses a threat to my kids, or the neighbor kids who know NOTHING about snakes. In my case, because I am fairly educated about the local species, that is only hots.

I honestly feel that some arguing just aren't in touch with the reality of having kids and being in the situation. When your kid, or the neighbors kid gets accidentally bit by a hot, and it becomes known that you have known about it being around but did not kill it or pay $425 to have someone else come and kill it (They do NOT relocate in my case a water moccasin. They take your money, take it away and they kill it) you can get in BIG trouble. No snake is worth a visit from HRS.

As stated by Tess in the state of Florida, you have to have a license to mess with hots. That license is almost impossible to get, and for good reason. You have to be taught how to do it by someone who knows, and have many hours of practice under supervision. Yeah, I know how to pick up and handle ball pythons, corn snakes, boas ect. I DO NOT know how to catch, bag and relocate a hot. I have no interest in asking a "friend" to do it who may claim they know how to do it. Heck, once they get bit, trying to remove it from my yard they can sue me!

This is a snake forum. Obviously most people will immediately say "NO WAY" to the question. But what will they actually do in the situation? Exactly.

Why do you need a license to touch hots in Florida? Also, how do they enforce that?

Personally I would not kill the snake. I would pull out the tongs and the trash bin put the snake in there and transfer it to a suitable location. Some might be against relocation but this way neither the snake, me or the neighborhood kids are harmed in anyway. I'd rather take an hour out of my day then somebody or something getting injured or killed. :) I haven't went through all the pages so I'm sure this has been mentioned but I wanted to say what I personally would do. --Josh

I have to go with no on this one.

Is there really such a thing as a "pet" snake? Aren't they all just wild animals that we happen to keep in boxes in our homes?

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I was under the impression we weren't talking just venomous snakes, but all snakes.
This thread has certainly gone off towards "just venomous snakes deserve to be killed". :rolleyes:

I think all mosquitos/ irritating bugs, disease ridden birds, large road crossing/ roaming herds of dangerous animals, frogs, toads and squirrels need to be killed when met. They cause so much damage to cars and people. Oh, forgot turkeys. We got a lot this year running amok, pooing on things and running into cars.

It's only right.

Oh, and also dihydrogen monoxide. Yes, it is a big killer. It actually forms WEAPONS of mass destruction that will break off of a colony and spear any helpless creature walking below.

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I didn't get that feeling reading these posts... unless I'm mistaken, I think everbody here agrees that nothing DESERVE to be killed. Not even a mosquito. But, like one of them said, sometimes it comes down to a choice... when a mosquito bites, you make the choice to swat him not because he deserved it but because it's either that or get bit over and over again.

And venomous snakes is nothing like dihydrogen monoxide (H2O - yeah, funny). Venomous snakes are a REAL threat. We have wild turkeys running around the neighborhood as well and nobody has ever gotten bit by them. They've crossed the yard while the kids were playing and we can just shoo them and they fly away in a quickness. If they run after somebody, I would completely understand somebody having it for dinner. And it's not like we go out looking for venomous snakes just to kill them.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

Why do you need a license to touch hots in Florida? Also, how do they enforce that?

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No no... you need a license to OWN hots. You need a license to own burms and retics or any snake that can potentially grow longer than 8 feet as well. What I was trying to say is that they make it look easy on TV to pick up hots but there's a lot of training and practice that goes behind that. But for a HUGE majority of city dwellers out there - including me, they would get bit if they tried. But see, the trick is, unless it's a racer, a ball python, or a hognose snake, I wouldn't know if that snake is venomous or not. And I will bet you a gazillion bucks 75% of the people living in my neighborhood wouldn't as well. So yeah, if you live in the woods or something, you see those snakes all the time, so you would know what to do. It's like me growing up in the Philippines, I know exactly what to do if I got stung by a sea urchin, whereas a lot of land-locked Americans wouldn't even know what a sea urchin is.

I guess my point is, it's easy for somebody who has pet snakes to get on their high horse and say, You evil, foul creature killing snakes for no good reason... it is the same thing for somebody who owns rabbits to get on their high horse and say, You evil, foul creature feeding a rabbit to a snake... You just can't pin people like that. Everybody has their own perspective and they can only act according to what they know. It doesn't make them foul. It's all a matter of education. And that's why I TRULY TRULY MISS STEVE IRWIN!

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Originally Posted by missi182

NO!!! Oh NO!!! heh...kidding...I wouldn't find anything poisonous so no, but I can't say I know what I would do if I did.

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please tell me you kidding?
snakes are venomous.
not poisonous, unless you plan on eating it.

i think it's funny how many people are mentioning 'relocating' snakes...

you can't relocate snakes - you're better off killing them. that said, i would never kill a snake, venomous or not.

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Originally Posted by FIEND_FO_LYFE

please tell me you kidding?
snakes are venomous.
not poisonous, unless you plan on eating it.

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I believe there are some poisonous snakes out there. Just not in the US ;)

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Originally Posted by anatess

It's like me growing up in the Philippines, I know exactly what to do if I got stung by a sea urchin, whereas a lot of land-locked Americans wouldn't even know what a sea urchin is.

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Ok, i not knowing the answer to this is killing me! Do you pee on it?

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Ok, i not knowing the answer to this is killing me! Do you pee on it?

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ROFL! Oh boy.

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Originally Posted by Melicious

ROFL! Oh boy.

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its not that far of a stretch... I know that it works for jelly fish bites! :)

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Ok, i not knowing the answer to this is killing me! Do you pee on it?

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Lol! Running the sting under hot water (not enough to hurt you, but still hot) for 30+ minutes is cleaner. The heat breaks down the venom. Also you need to remove any bits of spine from the wound of course.

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Originally Posted by Tikall

Lol! Running the sting under hot water (not enough to hurt you, but still hot) for 30+ minutes is cleaner. The heat breaks down the venom. Also you need to remove any bits of spine from the wound of course.

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Vinegar soaks or wraps tend to be more effective.

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

i think it's funny how many people are mentioning 'relocating' snakes...

you can't relocate snakes - you're better off killing them. that said, i would never kill a snake, venomous or not.

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Sure you can. The degree to which you "relocate" a snake doesn't need to even be big, but the further away you move a snake, the less likely you are to encounter that specific snake anytime soon.

I often relocate snakes off a path I'm walking on, if I can't get around the snake. Usually a quick prod with a stick does the trick. I would relocate snakes that got in my pool, especially if I was about to take a swim.

I also relocate(read: rescue) turtles all the time, dumb things just walk right into the middle of the road. When I lived in Louisiana, I had the experience saving a hatchling alligator snapper from an almost certainly squishy death.

I understand that you probably meant that relocating snakes doesn't do too much in the long run for reducing the likelihood of venomous snakes winding up in your yard, but if I saw that I had a big copperhead in my back yard, I wouldn't be out mowing until I moved it somewhere that kept both myself and the snake relatively safe.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Ok, i not knowing the answer to this is killing me! Do you pee on it?

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You are correct, Mike. No, you don't pee on the sea urchin, you pee on your foot that got stung by the sea urchin. :D But, usually, when Filipinos go to the beach, they bring barbecue to be dipped in vinegar, so chances are there's vinegar around - so it is more practical to soak it with vinegar after you pull out any spikes that are sticking out. But, I have to tell ya, it hurts like you won't believe!

Ya know. I didn't notice any real pain from the vinegar. Heated up the vinegar compress, and the heat killed the pain, while the vinegar broke down what little spines did not come out.

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Originally Posted by anatess

I didn't get that feeling reading these posts... unless I'm mistaken, I think everbody here agrees that nothing DESERVE to be killed. Not even a mosquito. But, like one of them said, sometimes it comes down to a choice... when a mosquito bites, you make the choice to swat him not because he deserved it but because it's either that or get bit over and over again.

And venomous snakes is nothing like dihydrogen monoxide (H2O - yeah, funny). Venomous snakes are a REAL threat. We have wild turkeys running around the neighborhood as well and nobody has ever gotten bit by them.

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Deer, squirrels and turkeys crossing the road is a REAL threat too. So are any wild animals. So is being hammered in the head by icicles. (You a water enthusiast or something? :confused:)

Mosquitos are real threat, they spread malaria. Birds spread around the asian flu. Cows make us mad!

Sure sounds like everyone here believes that if the animal can kill you, it should be killed.

Is that why all the big warm blooded carnivores are either gone, or in severe decline?



I'm not a peta advocate in disguise, but I still don't see a reason to kill any animal because you came across it and it might hurt you or your wee little kittens.

I will say that over and over, no matter how often you bring up the "kids are in danger and always come first" bull hooky. I will remain stubborn on that fact, because someone has to.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

Sure you can. The degree to which you "relocate" a snake doesn't need to even be big, but the further away you move a snake, the less likely you are to encounter that specific snake anytime soon.

I often relocate snakes off a path I'm walking on, if I can't get around the snake. Usually a quick prod with a stick does the trick. I would relocate snakes that got in my pool, especially if I was about to take a swim.

I also relocate(read: rescue) turtles all the time, dumb things just walk right into the middle of the road. When I lived in Louisiana, I had the experience saving a hatchling alligator snapper from an almost certainly squishy death.

I understand that you probably meant that relocating snakes doesn't do too much in the long run for reducing the likelihood of venomous snakes winding up in your yard, but if I saw that I had a big copperhead in my back yard, I wouldn't be out mowing until I moved it somewhere that kept both myself and the snake relatively safe.

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what i meant was that you can't relocate a snake and expect it to live, or the other populations to not be adversely affected. genetic diversity, locations of hibernacula, number of prey, overlapping ranges, etc etc are all potential killers to entire populations of snakes. transporting a snake from one geographic area to another is NOT a good idea.... you might disagree, but i challenge you to find a wildlife biologist to back you up.
moving them off a trail or out of yard is obviously fine... not what i was referring to at all.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Deer, squirrels and turkeys crossing the road is a REAL threat too. So are any wild animals.

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Agreed. With a deer - it's a bad situation for both deer and passengers especially in icy roads, you do the best you can. Squirrels and turkeys crossing an icy road will be run over. Because, the first thing that will go through my head in that split second before impact is not, "Oh no! The squirrel is gonna get hurt!" but rather, "Oh no! My kids are gonna get hurt!".

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Mosquitos are real threat, they spread malaria.

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You wear mosquito repellant. And even then, if a mosquito lands on you, you might shoo it away, but if it lands on me or my kids, he gets swatted.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Birds spread around the asian flu. Cows make us mad!

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If left up to you, you might relocate a mad cow or a flu bird. But if it was left up to me, mad cows and flu birds get killed.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Sure sounds like everyone here believes that if the animal can kill you, it should be killed. Is that why all the big warm blooded carnivores are either gone, or in severe decline?

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I think you misunderstood this one. Nobody believes that. Otherwise, you'll see people raiding the forests or everywhere looking for "animals that can kill you" and shooting them all down.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I'm not a peta advocate in disguise, but I still don't see a reason to kill any animal because you came across it and it might hurt you or your wee little kittens.

I will say that over and over, no matter how often you bring up the "kids are in danger and always come first" bull hooky. I will remain stubborn on that fact, because someone has to.

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We will have to agree to disagree. Okay, let's put this another way. Some strange aggressive guy comes into my house and puts my kids in danger. Maybe if he goes inside your house you will try to "relocate" him. Sorry, but if he comes into my house, he is going to get shot. I guess that's where we differ.

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Originally Posted by anatess

We will have to agree to disagree. Okay, let's put this another way. Some strange aggressive guy comes into my house and puts my kids in danger. Maybe if he goes inside your house you will try to "relocate" him. Sorry, but if he comes into my house, he is going to get shot. I guess that's where we differ.

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Oh we can agree to disagree.... wait, you have ONE more analogy, to see if I "get" it right?
*reading*

Okay, lovely. Do snakes chase after you, or do they feel the vibrations of someone coming along their way and try to move away or sit and hide? When they get in your house, are they out to hurt you or steal from you, or just going bout's their business because that's their nature?

And we do tend to relocate intruders don't we? We put them in jail and prison away from our tender wee ones. Apparently you believe we should get a shovel towards their neck as well?

You see, frankly, you can continue to post whatever you like, quote my posts and what not, and every time I will come back and say that I really don't give a flip for your reasons, because to me they are not good enough.:cool:

You see why trying to "explain" why I'm wrong will never work? :8:

Where's Aaron's little image, "someone is wrong on the internet."

Oh my.... :gj:

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Oh we can agree to disagree.... wait, you have ONE more analogy, to see if I "get" it right?
*reading*

You see why trying to "explain" why I'm wrong will never work? :8:

Where's Aaron's little image, "someone is wrong on the internet."

Oh my.... :gj:

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I apologize profusely. I did not realize I was coming off like I was wagging my finger. Completely not my intent nor is it what I was trying to say. I do not think you are wrong. I was just trying to explain why I would do it if I am put into that situation. That's why I put analogy after analogy - to explain how some people might handle it differently, but that I would handle it the way I know is best for me and mine and I'm not singling out venomous snakes - it applies universally. We may disagree but it doesn't mean you're wrong or I'm wrong - it just means we're different.

I don't argue wrong or right on anonymous forums. For me to say somebody is wrong, I have to know the other person, otherwise, I don't have enough information to know where the other guy is coming from and what makes him think that way or what experiences he has to back up his side. You can say, "The sky is green" on a forum like this one and all I can say is, "well, in my town, it is blue". I can't tell you you are wrong because who knows, in your neck of the woods, some condition might really exist that turned the sky green!

So, again, I apologize for coming off as preachy.

I really can't answer yes or no. Yes to poisonous no to non and that also depends on which place you talking about in GA I know we have more poisonous snakes at my houses then here where I live.

the good thing about poisonous animals is that you basically have to lick them to get sick.