Unboxing My NEW ALBINO BALL PYTHON!!!!

wth you guys?? "you're opening that box too fast!" Anyone who seriously thinks the way he handled the box was rough should think very very seriously about ever putting a reptile through the mailing system by either shipping or receiving.

Who cares what kind of knife he used? the appropriate implement is the one nearest to you that's of a reasonable size! (no swords lol)

wtf asking him where he got the money for his animals? whose beeswax is it??? how rude!

seriously it's like i don't even know you guys sometimes :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by Morphie

wtf asking him where he got the money for his animals? whose beeswax is it??? how rude!

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Preach it! lol

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Originally Posted by nixer

when you supposedly realized you forgot to QT why did you post the movie. you knew someone would point it out.

as for the retic line what thread was this where you asked anything about it ?
all i saw is a movie you made about it. when i brought it up you never said anything about it go back and look at your threads.:colbert:

as for the boa pics i wrongly assumed that they were also not yours, but also take note i thanked you when you said it was yours. that was on 12-10-08, but in this thread you said you sold it http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80695 either way whatever.:colbert:

"you have been all over my case from the first day i started posting here, and have been trying to dig out every little thing i do wrong or say!"
i think if you look back ive post or even looked at perhaps 4 threads you even started. really dude you need to stop pointing fingers at ppl for things you have no basis for :colbert:

"You jump to conclusions, like just jumping to say "So your no quarantining them!" i beleive is how it went" i jumped to a conclusion! really dude you posted the video about it! it was right there for everyone to see:colbert:

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Okay Here we go,

(1)What i exactly said about the retic line albinos:
"And the women who sold the het albinos to me said they were het for retic line albino, I DIDNT MAKE UP THE NAME, she told me that, so i thought i would share the name with you guys to see if it existed, obviously not... "
Did i EVER say i ASKED anything about it? I said and will take that directly out of the quote
"i thought i would share the name with you guys to see if it existed"
Does share mean the same thing as asked?

(2)Im sorry, i didn't notice that you thanked me, and i thank you for thanking me...

(3)If you could get an exact quote where you have given me a compliment or said something nice instead of always telling me off about something, i will take that back, and apologize... I looked all over my other posts to find a time like i mentioned and if i had i wouldn't have said that...

Here are a few examples posted by you:

"i hope those hets they bought werent hets i hope they got ripped off just like they ripped off those pics and are trying to rip others off on some supposed new type of albino!"

"your not sorry your attempting to defaud period!
you have stole ppls pics for use on your site for animals which you dont have and trying to claim something which you will never be.
also your care sheet on your site is b.s. alot of miss information period!"

"you guys need to stop period!
whats this retic line albino carp!"

Also, once even an administrator had something to say to you, JLC:
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Originally Posted by nixer
i hope those hets they bought werent hets i hope they got ripped off just like they ripped off those pics and are trying to rip others off on some supposed new type of albino!
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Wow...nice. The kid has made a sincere apology both for the pictures and for the verbal attacks he made. He's working on making things right again. Give him a chance. sheeeesh...
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--Judy

(4) Yes i realize i should watch what i post on here from now on and what i do post i should expect everything i get, thanks for the advice...

p.s. I hope everyone see's this reply, and knows that i even sent you a pm trying to make things right between me and you, heres the message i sent him everybody, in exact words:

"Hey Nixer,
I just wanted to take this time to apologize to you for anything i've said or done in the past, and i know some of those things can't be taken back... But i just wanted to know if we could be friends instead of arguing all the time... So let me know, and if there is anything i could do or change, PLEASE let me know, and i will do so
Thankyou,
Brandon"

& he replies on my thread saying, again exact words:
"dont pm me! if you have something to say it better start with adressing what i said earlier which you have seemingly overlooked!"

I have nothing left to say here...

Honestly he could deal crack on the corner for all you know, but who cares! (Don't take this personal man I'm just trying to defend you here). How and why he makes his money is up to him, they obviously aren't stolen, who ships to a crooks address. I'm 99.9% sure he paid that and no I don't know him. Thing is why do you care? I'ts his money, I wish you the best with your animals, take care of them and god bless hope you learned a few things here and take care, let us know how it goes.

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Originally Posted by Sebrina

Honestly he could deal crack on the corner for all you know, but who cares! (Don't take this personal man I'm just trying to defend you here). How and why he makes his money is up to him, they obviously aren't stolen, who ships to a crooks address. I'm 99.9% sure he paid that and no I don't know him. Thing is why do you care? I'ts his money, I wish you the best with your animals, take care of them and god bless hope you learned a few things here and take care, let us know how it goes.

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yea i agree, but i also replied explaining how i afford them lol, But thanks anyway man! :)

I am curious as to how you got the money too! I am 16 and have a legit job, but I still don't make that money..LOL. I could careless if its my beeswax or not...let me in on that secret!

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Originally Posted by DBD

yea i agree, but i also replied explaining how i afford them lol, But thanks anyway man! :)

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Loooks like the younger "kid" is coming off as the more sophisticated adult, just saying why did you have a problem with him? Everyone started somewhere, some didn't have as many "friends" and couldn't do as well as he can, give him a break.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

I am curious as to how you got the money too! I am 16 and have a legit job, but I still don't make that money..LOL. I could careless if its my beeswax or not...let me in on that secret!

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Well, im 15 so i have working papers, so i have a job lol... My mom runs a manufacturing company, and in the back is the shop, basically where packages get taken off the truck and into the shop, i just have to unload the trucks, along with 2 other guys, i work mondays, tuesdays, wednesdays, thursdays, and fridays, from 2:30 p.m. (time i get out of school and get there) until around 9:00 p.m. Sometimes i work later than the other guys, just doing some other stuff that needs to get taken care of so my mom just throws me some extra cash off the books...

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Originally Posted by Sebrina

just saying why did you have a problem with him? Everyone started somewhere

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Wait does that mean why do i have a problem with nixer or why does nixer have a problem with me? If its why did i have a problem with him read my above reply to nixer, it explains everything...

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Originally Posted by DBD

Okay Here we go,

(1)What i exactly said about the retic line albinos:
"And the women who sold the het albinos to me said they were het for retic line albino, I DIDNT MAKE UP THE NAME, she told me that, so i thought i would share the name with you guys to see if it existed, obviously not... "
Did i EVER say i ASKED anything about it? I said and will take that directly out of the quote
"i thought i would share the name with you guys to see if it existed"
Does share mean the same thing as asked?

(2)Im sorry, i didn't notice that you thanked me, and i thank you for thanking me...

(3)If you could get an exact quote where you have given me a compliment or said something nice instead of always telling me off about something, i will take that back, and apologize... I looked all over my other posts to find a time like i mentioned and if i had i wouldn't have said that...

Here are a few examples posted by you:

"i hope those hets they bought werent hets i hope they got ripped off just like they ripped off those pics and are trying to rip others off on some supposed new type of albino!"

"your not sorry your attempting to defaud period!
you have stole ppls pics for use on your site for animals which you dont have and trying to claim something which you will never be.
also your care sheet on your site is b.s. alot of miss information period!"

"you guys need to stop period!
whats this retic line albino carp!"

Also, once even an administrator had something to say to you, JLC:
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Originally Posted by nixer
i hope those hets they bought werent hets i hope they got ripped off just like they ripped off those pics and are trying to rip others off on some supposed new type of albino!
Reply:
Wow...nice. The kid has made a sincere apology both for the pictures and for the verbal attacks he made. He's working on making things right again. Give him a chance. sheeeesh...
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--Judy

(4) Yes i realize i should watch what i post on here from now on and what i do post i should expect everything i get, thanks for the advice...

p.s. I hope everyone see's this reply, and knows that i even sent you a pm trying to make things right between me and you, heres the message i sent him everybody, in exact words:

"Hey Nixer,
I just wanted to take this time to apologize to you for anything i've said or done in the past, and i know some of those things can't be taken back... But i just wanted to know if we could be friends instead of arguing all the time... So let me know, and if there is anything i could do or change, PLEASE let me know, and i will do so
Thankyou,
Brandon"

& he replies on my thread saying, again exact words:
"dont pm me! if you have something to say it better start with adressing what i said earlier which you have seemingly overlooked!"

I have nothing left to say here...

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ok here we go
1) you never mentioned the retic line here! i did after seeing it on your video!
when i said something about it your ignored my post!

2)i didnt think you did notice it and with as heated as it got i wouldnt expect you to notice it

3)i dont think anything anywhere that says i have to compliment you period.
i shouldnt of said that about the hets and i left it at what judy said. the rest of number 3 you did and thats that.

4) like i said dont pm me. i didnt post your message to me for a reason. its up to you to post it.



now for the real issue here on 12-10 you said the pic of the boa on your site was of your pet boa "rambo" but on 12-13 you posted you used to have a boa. now could you have sold it in 3 days perhaps but from the other thread it kinda caught me as odd considering everything that has transpired thus far.
including all the avoidances.


oh yea as for the box opening or the commentary on the video i dont think i made any statement on those and i did so purposely.

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Originally Posted by Morphie

wth you guys?? "you're opening that box too fast!" Anyone who seriously thinks the way he handled the box was rough should think very very seriously about ever putting a reptile through the mailing system by either shipping or receiving.

Who cares what kind of knife he used? the appropriate implement is the one nearest to you that's of a reasonable size! (no swords lol)

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Freaky Frog told me a story of how someone cut open a box uncarefully and the ball python inside had gotten outside of its bag and got its head cut off....im just say'in

Guys.

Go read the lighten up post again, breathe, - repeat as necessary.

Do we really need to lock this thread to enforce a time out? :rolleyes:


dr del

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Originally Posted by nixer

now for the real issue here on 12-10 you said the pic of the boa on your site was of your pet boa "rambo" but on 12-13 you posted you used to have a boa. now could you have sold it in 3 days perhaps but from the other thread it kinda caught me as odd considering everything that has transpired thus far.
including all the avoidances.

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yes, i actually did sell him, i had him in my captivity, but still had an ad up for him on a craigslist ad just to see what people would offer for about 15 days before i said he was my pet rambo, then the next day had gotten and outstanding offer for him, so i accepted the offer, and the guy had come and picked him up from my house that day... Then i realized i that i really missed having a red tailed boa after i had sold him and totally regret selling him so i started doing some research on some different localities of red tailed boas, because i wanted one with a bigger head,(i find the bigger the head, the more attractive it is in this species, and i wanted to buy a snake i loved to just even look at, besides for the fact it would be like my new pet) and to see if bigger heads on them was just a gender thing. (i had saw a smaller female rtb in a local reptile shop with a huge head, and i was in love with it at the time)... And i don't remember any avoidances...

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Freaky Frog told me a story of how someone cut open a box uncarefully and the ball python inside had gotten outside of its bag and got its head cut off....im just say'in

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I will definately be ALOT more careful opening boxes from now on, now that im looking back at the vid..

ok thank you for answering.
i just wanted to check the facts.
im sorry you gave up your boa and missed it. while we all have that one herp that made us love this hobby even more.
bill

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Originally Posted by nixer

ok thank you for answering.
i just wanted to check the facts.
im sorry you gave up your boa and missed it. while we all have that one herp that made us love this hobby even more.
bill

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No problem man, friends? And yea, that was that one herp :( But im also very happy that i know he's in good hands, the guy i sold him to gives me a call every once in a while to let me know hows he's doing :)

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Originally Posted by DBD

Whats up Quinton,
Um im not sure if you read any of my other replies, but i am quarantining, but thanks for the warning. Since i accidently introduced the new snakes to my current collection, my dad is going to be taking all of the snakes to the vet on tuesday (the day he is off) to get them all checked up on :) And make sure they don't have any illnesses, which im sure they don't have, but i also checked them myself for mites, respiratory infection, scale rot, etc... And have been spraying all of them down with jurassi mite 3 times a week (Monday, Wednesday, & Friday) to help provent mites. Im about 95% sure all of them are in VERY good health, but we are taking them to the vet to be sure :)
Thanks,
Brandon

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i read them all, I just wanted to add my 2 cents even though it probably didn't matter. Im OCD like that lol. again not trying to fuel the fire. thats good your taking them to the vet, good luck. I have made a couple of qt mistakes my self. Like forgetting to wash my hands in between handling. that was like a year ago.

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Originally Posted by pythontricker

i read them all, I just wanted to add my 2 cents even though it probably didn't matter. Im OCD like that lol. again not trying to fuel the fire. thats good your taking them to the vet, good luck. I have made a couple of qt mistakes my self. Like forgetting to wash my hands in between handling. that was like a year ago.

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Did that myself cost me a crap load in vet bills because the first animal I handled had RI and I was actually giving it its daily meds. Mistakes happen.

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Originally Posted by sg1trogdor

Did that myself cost me a crap load in vet bills because the first animal I handled had RI and I was actually giving it its daily meds. Mistakes happen.

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Yeah its unfortunate, these animals get sick very easily. mistakes do happen, and the best thing to do is learn from them.

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Originally Posted by pythontricker

Yeah its unfortunate, these animals get sick very easily. mistakes do happen, and the best thing to do is learn from them.

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Yeah the thing that made me soo mad on that one was I had the freaking purell like 3 feet from my main snake rack. Im just lucky that only the one caught it and not the whole collection. Stupidity its a killer lol.

Anyone remember the incident with Jen Harrison?

I'll never forget this. It broke my heart.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...t.php?p=611124

I honestly think he's learned from his quarantine mistakes. None of us started out with the Ball Python/Reptile Keeping Manual. We all have to learn.

Again, to the original poster, beautiful Albino.

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Originally Posted by Michelle.C

I'll never forget this. It broke my heart.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...t.php?p=611124

I honestly think he's learned from his quarantine mistakes. None of us started out with the Ball Python/Reptile Keeping Manual. We all have to learn.

Again, to the original poster, beautiful Albino.

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I believe Justin (stangs) studied them for a year or two before he was finally allowed to have one.

And yep, that's the incident. The short version. All started because she didn't quarantine a snake. Lost her clown, couple large het females, albino, spiders, mojaves, another kids genetic stripe (I think), and a bunch of normals. I think she had about 50+ snakes right before she got that female with the virus.

just got back from vacation, so I just started reading these threads...

I have to say, I am so very disappointed. VERY disappointed. This is my first and only pet community and I have learned a lot from ball-pythons.net but you guys can be such a downer.

I have been following DBD's posts and youtube site since the first time he posted his youtube video. I am very interested in kids trying to make something of themselves. I bought my spider from an amazing 12-year-old who runs a buy-and-sell reptile store from his bedroom. His dad has an irrational fear of snakes (the reason why the snakes has to stay in his bedroom) but he supported him so much he found the courage to drive his son to meet me with 3 snakes in the back seat. He says the money he makes from selling snakes is going to his college fund. How many kids have the desire to do that these days???

I hired a 15-year-old babysitter last summer to watch my 2 kids while I work at the home office. On the weekends we paid him money to lay sod in our yard. He has been working odd jobs since he was 12-years-old. I asked him once, don't you ever just want to go out and have some fun? He told me, he enjoys watching my kids, so in a way he is having fun. Besides, if he doesn't work for me, he will have to watch his younger brothers for free, or if he doesn't lay sod on the weekend, his dad will put him to work on cutting their grass and trimming their bushes for free. So, he'd rather work and get paid. Most of his friends are either harassing girls at the mall, getting catatonic infront of the TV, or working themselves in and out of depression.

So, DBD wants to be the next Ralph Davis. AWESOME! If you're going to dream, don't settle for mediocre! His first video, like most typical teen-agers these days, is full of cussing, mis-information, what-have-you. But, he learned and his next video was better, although the comments didn't improve. He has a point when he said ever since his first post in here, he has been written off as a loser with scathing remarks to his posts everytime. He has only been on this for what, 2 months? He is improving in my opinion, although still far from perfect, but he is only going to get better with proper guidance.

You guys need to stop and think about what you are saying to a 15-year-old. I am very glad to see Brandon holding his head up, learning, and not getting discouraged. Any other kid would read your posts, give up altogether, and grow up working 9-6 making 7 bucks an hour on a job he hates at age 45.

To Brandon, I should have sent this to you on a PM, but I want everyone to know you have my support. Between my dad and I - we have over 10 businesses between us, so I know what I'm talking about. Our businesses are thriving partly because we don't let anyone rain on our parade. My advice to you: Don't worry about having to defend yourself over and over on the same issue. You don't have to reply to every single post and don't sink to the bickering level. You learned about quarantining very fast... instead of spending the time repeating to the naysayers about how you are now quarantining, tell us you are quarantining once, thank everyone for the advice, then spend the rest of the time learning everything you can about quarantine methods. Don't bother with this back-and-forth bickering. It's a waste of time and nothing good will come of it. Don't bother defending yourself again about previous posts either. Same thing, it's a step backwards instead of forwards. Nixer et al can belabor the point ad nauseam - responding point by point on it will only highlight the mistakes you made in the past. Learn, improve, and move on. These threads are helpful in that it can pinpoint really fast what you can improve on - e.g. quarantine, cussing, Lord's name, etc. etc. Don't focus on the negativity - just take note of the issue and apply it to your next video or next business step. Also, treat each video like a professional production, just like what you would see as an ad on TV. Look through the ads on TV (or even Snakebytes or 8ballpythons ads, etc.) and take note of your favorites and produce your next video along those lines - notice the words used, the tone of voice, the background music, the environment, etc. Each video is a representation of your business. Maybe even separate the day-to-day videos to a personal account and only post professional videos under your business name. Of course, this is just my suggestion. I've never advertised on youtube, so I can only provide information from my "standard advertising methods" experience. Also, don't limit your learning to this site. Although there is a great sticky up there on quarantine methods, a lot of the forum information are conflicting. My 7-year-old son has 9 reptile encyclopedias. One just on pythons, one just on cobras. He also bugs the reptile store owner and the reptile vet every chance he gets - questions like, how do you give oral medicine to a flowerpot snake? And I can tell you he knows a lot more about these snakes than me whose main source of information is this forum.

In any case, keep on doing what you are doing. Your collection looks great! I'm not a big fan of albinos but even so, I think he is very pretty. YOU ROCK! By the way, that guy Joshua has an amazing collection as well. He seems a little more established, so he must be doing this for a while. Are you friends? You can definitely learn from each other as well...

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Originally Posted by pythontricker

i read them all, I just wanted to add my 2 cents even though it probably didn't matter. Im OCD like that lol. again not trying to fuel the fire. thats good your taking them to the vet, good luck. I have made a couple of qt mistakes my self. Like forgetting to wash my hands in between handling. that was like a year ago.

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Yea, like those sanitary things i never forget to do, like i always wash my hands and use hand sanitizer before touching any of my animals, i also wash after to prevent the chance of getting salmonella (even though i do give my snakes a bath once every week or 3 days after feeding)...

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Originally Posted by anatess

just got back from vacation, so I just started reading these threads...

I have to say, I am so very disappointed. VERY disappointed. This is my first and only pet community and I have learned a lot from ball-pythons.net but you guys can be such a downer.

I have been following DBD's posts and youtube site since the first time he posted his youtube video. I am very interested in kids trying to make something of themselves. I bought my spider from an amazing 12-year-old who runs a buy-and-sell reptile store from his bedroom. His dad has an irrational fear of snakes (the reason why the snakes has to stay in his bedroom) but he supported him so much he found the courage to drive his son to meet me with 3 snakes in the back seat. He says the money he makes from selling snakes is going to his college fund. How many kids have the desire to do that these days???

I hired a 15-year-old babysitter last summer to watch my 2 kids while I work at the home office. On the weekends we paid him money to lay sod in our yard. He has been working odd jobs since he was 12-years-old. I asked him once, don't you ever just want to go out and have some fun? He told me, he enjoys watching my kids, so in a way he is having fun. Besides, if he doesn't work for me, he will have to watch his younger brothers for free, or if he doesn't lay sod on the weekend, his dad will put him to work on cutting their grass and trimming their bushes for free. So, he'd rather work and get paid. Most of his friends are either harassing girls at the mall, getting catatonic infront of the TV, or working themselves in and out of depression.

So, DBD wants to be the next Ralph Davis. AWESOME! If you're going to dream, don't settle for mediocre! His first video, like most typical teen-agers these days, is full of cussing, mis-information, what-have-you. But, he learned and his next video was better, although the comments didn't improve. He has a point when he said ever since his first post in here, he has been written off as a loser with scathing remarks to his posts everytime. He has only been on this for what, 2 months? He is improving in my opinion, although still far from perfect, but he is only going to get better with proper guidance.

You guys need to stop and think about what you are saying to a 15-year-old. I am very glad to see Brandon holding his head up, learning, and not getting discouraged. Any other kid would read your posts, give up altogether, and grow up working 9-6 making 7 bucks an hour on a job he hates at age 45.

To Brandon, I should have sent this to you on a PM, but I want everyone to know you have my support. Between my dad and I - we have over 10 businesses between us, so I know what I'm talking about. Our businesses are thriving partly because we don't let anyone rain on our parade. My advice to you: Don't worry about having to defend yourself over and over on the same issue. You don't have to reply to every single post and don't sink to the bickering level. You learned about quarantining very fast... instead of spending the time repeating to the naysayers about how you are now quarantining, tell us you are quarantining once, thank everyone for the advice, then spend the rest of the time learning everything you can about quarantine methods. Don't bother with this back-and-forth bickering. It's a waste of time and nothing good will come of it. Don't bother defending yourself again about previous posts either. Same thing, it's a step backwards instead of forwards. Nixer et al can belabor the point ad nauseam - responding point by point on it will only highlight the mistakes you made in the past. Learn, improve, and move on. These threads are helpful in that it can pinpoint really fast what you can improve on - e.g. quarantine, cussing, Lord's name, etc. etc. Don't focus on the negativity - just take note of the issue and apply it to your next video or next business step. Also, treat each video like a professional production, just like what you would see as an ad on TV. Look through the ads on TV (or even Snakebytes or 8ballpythons ads, etc.) and take note of your favorites and produce your next video along those lines - notice the words used, the tone of voice, the background music, the environment, etc. Each video is a representation of your business. Maybe even separate the day-to-day videos to a personal account and only post professional videos under your business name. Of course, this is just my suggestion. I've never advertised on youtube, so I can only provide information from my "standard advertising methods" experience. Also, don't limit your learning to this site. Although there is a great sticky up there on quarantine methods, a lot of the forum information are conflicting. My 7-year-old son has 9 reptile encyclopedias. One just on pythons, one just on cobras. He also bugs the reptile store owner and the reptile vet every chance he gets - questions like, how do you give oral medicine to a flowerpot snake? And I can tell you he knows a lot more about these snakes than me whose main source of information is this forum.

In any case, keep on doing what you are doing. Your collection looks great! I'm not a big fan of albinos but even so, I think he is very pretty. YOU ROCK! By the way, that guy Joshua has an amazing collection as well. He seems a little more established, so he must be doing this for a while. Are you friends? You can definitely learn from each other as well...

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i can't agree with this more!!! i'm fairly new to this site but have avidly been reading and learning and appreciating this site until this :( i couldn't even stomach reading some peoples posts after the 3rd or 4th page, repeating yourselves, constantly picking apart a young boy, discouraging him even after he pulled ahead and was ENcouraged and fixed his main issue. is this some sort of who's better than who site, looking down noses at people less experienced than you? i didn't think it was. so he says 'jesus christ' he could be saying much much worse, lol, seriously, and he's keeping his cool as trying to defend himself. kudos to the people pointing him in the right direction in a constructive manner and those who manage to compliment his new addition, i won't personally only complain ;) good luck guy

if this person would of answered along time ago it wouldnt of went this far.
instead he tried to push this off as some sort witch hunt or something personal and it wasnt. posts like these happen when you continue to dodge posts

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Originally Posted by nixer

if this person would of answered along time ago it wouldnt of went this far.
instead he tried to push this off as some sort witch hunt or something personal and it wasnt. posts like these happen when you continue to dodge posts

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What did you want me to answer a long time ago? I beleive i answered everything in full that you've asked, did i not?

Beautiful Albino! That's next on my constantly growing list! lol

Lord have mercy, this constant beating of the dead horse should have been split pages ago.

I'm glad the internet police have decided to stick around, but I think your record has been skipping the last few tracks....

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Originally Posted by DBD

What did you want me to answer a long time ago? I beleive i answered everything in full that you've asked, did i not?

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yes you did answer me.

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Originally Posted by nixer

yes you did answer me.

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Yea about my old boa rambo right? You didnt ask me to answer that a "long time ago"... Ahh who cares lol, its over, lets just drop the whole subject! Lol

Well, he wouldn't be in this situation if he had did his HW from the start. He is not the only teen around here that has snakes and wants to do something with them. I spent a good 2+ years learning about the right snakes and what I wanted to do with them, and how to do it. I didn't jump right into it, I also had conflicting parents, but either way I did alot of research. And I have not made any mistakes like this.

First impresions are very important, and they make a person, so when you start off the way you did it sent up a lot of red flags and gave everyone a bad view of you. So just take a chill pill and relax, just sit back, watch, and learn...you will learn a lot by just doing that.

super sweet!!!!

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Well, he wouldn't be in this situation if he had did his HW from the start. He is not the only teen around here that has snakes and wants to do something with them. I spent a good 2+ years learning about the right snakes and what I wanted to do with them, and how to do it. I didn't jump right into it, I also had conflicting parents, but either way I did alot of research. And I have not made any mistakes like this.

First impresions are very important, and they make a person, so when you start off the way you did it sent up a lot of red flags and gave everyone a bad view of you. So just take a chill pill and relax, just sit back, watch, and learn...you will learn a lot by just doing that.

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Well i have been keeping snakes since i was around 5, and got my first ball python when i was around maybe 13 or 12, whatever age you are in 6th grade... I did a lot of research on the species, made my own book out of it (No not a real book) and bought the ball python manual, and all that stuff... So i was already set on the husbrandry and care of these animals (No where in any of the books i read say to quarantine and i had not known of it, because i just started ordering snakes online and whenever i bought them from reptile shops they never told me to quarantine, but thankfully now i know to quarantine my animals, courtesy of ball pythons dot net :) But anyway, i just started wanting to breed ball pythons, and attempted it at first, but wasnt successful, and now i have done a lot more research on the subject and think i have a better shot of it this time :) But yea, i definately do ALOT MORE research now, then i ever have before :)

Hey DBD,

I just read thru all of the 9 pages and was about to defend you as I am a young person myself (19) and hate when people attack me for not knowing every thing. But after watching the video and reading the posts I decided to check out your other youtube videos. I came upon your "Creating a Crested Gecko Enclosure" I looked over at your materials list in the box to the right and was shocked!

"Materials/prices:
-Sterilite Ultra-Seal - $3
-Fake leaves - $10
-Screen Mesh - $5 big sheet (found some in my house)
-Heat Pad - Free (Stolen) ;p - Petsmart $20
-Caps - Free
-Suction Cups - $2/Pack"

You stole a heat pad? You steal things? I was disappointed to here this as I respected what you were trying to do and start with your breeding.

Then you say...

"Well i steal lots of them at different times LOL my firends mom is really cool lol and lets us stash em in her bag, so we get like 10 of them, put em in the cart and go to the back where no one is and stuff em all in her bag, or we just wear big jackets and stuff a few in the inside pockets.. :D LOLOLOLOL"

Are you kidding me!? You are trying to have a buisness and promot it to people who trust you. What else do you do illegaly?

Im sorry but you have lost my respect and I would warn anyone who was looking to buy a animal from you.

If this is out of line, mods please take it down, but I think people need to know who they are dealing with.

Okay, I just lost all respect for this kid. It's never cool to steal, and I never would do business with someone of so little integrity.

wow, stealing isnt cool.
its people like you that make the prices for people like us go up.

God I really thought this thread was dead now a whole new argument has been started. Well not yet bit it will get there soon enough.

I think a horde of angry people has just been released on this thread... :\

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Originally Posted by ryan9815

"Well i steal lots of them at different times LOL my firends mom is really cool lol and lets us stash em in her bag, so we get like 10 of them, put em in the cart and go to the back where no one is and stuff em all in her bag, or we just wear big jackets and stuff a few in the inside pockets.. :D LOLOLOLOL".

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pwned!

That is a gorgeous albino!!!! Where did you get him from???

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Originally Posted by RKO

I believe Justin (stangs) studied them for a year or two before he was finally allowed to have one.

And yep, that's the incident. The short version. All started because she didn't quarantine a snake. Lost her clown, couple large het females, albino, spiders, mojaves, another kids genetic stripe (I think), and a bunch of normals. I think she had about 50+ snakes right before she got that female with the virus.

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That would be me... Bought it for $10,000 (with a het female), a few months later they are going for $2,000, and then I lose it before even having it for a whole year. I've had some damn bad luck with my breeding projects.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/...21e772144a.jpg

Well kiddo, you just lost more than $20 (the price of the heating pad) in people who MIGHT have bought from you! Stealing is NOT funny and what will happen to all your beautiful snakes if (when) you go to jail? I would hope you learn by others mistakes. But this one takes the cake.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

I am curious as to how you got the money too! I am 16 and have a legit job, but I still don't make that money..LOL. I could careless if its my beeswax or not...let me in on that secret!

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5500 posts? You could get off of BP.net.

Lol.. just yankin yer chain.

Someone who will steal a $20 heating pad would definitely not see a problem with keeping the several hundred dollars you sent for an animal and sending you nothing in return. That's the issue I have.

looks like he broke his promise to keeping everything clean..to the person he promised he would keep clean to?

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Ahhh ______ You Lol! JKJKJK I Never Asked All These People to Tell Me About Their Stealing stories... I Thought It Would Add a Lil Humor To My Description, obviously you don't have ANY HUMOR!!! AAAAHAHHAHAAAHA Get The _____ Off MY Channel, I Don't Take Wise @$$ ____, and Go Tell Everyone on ballpythons(dot)net that i don't take the slightest bit of wise _______too, They Already Know!

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Looks like DBD just ruined his chances of ever selling a snake to anyone who knows him or is over the age of 12.

Heres the video

YouTube - Creating A Crested Gecko Enclosure! By DaBoaDude?!?!

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Everyone knows i don't take _____From Any One Being A Wise_____! So _____ off now buddy, im not the nicest guy in the world, Sometimes... And im not gonna make a sale?? AAAHAHAHAHA I have over 700 subscribers, everytime i send out a message that reptiles are for sale, i usually get back 200 replies with people interested... Hmmm isnt that something eh?

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Im sure he does get 200 replies... I hope who ever bought the two snakes hes ever sold have seen his way of treating people and his husbendry ways( Like not qting)

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Looks like DBD just ruined his chances of ever selling a snake to anyone who knows him or is over the age of 12.

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Exactly what I was thinking. Sad the way he reacted, very immature in my opinion. I also feel bad for the people who defended him on here as he is making them look like fools.

Ryan