Is this a carpet?

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

Some of you made good points

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THAT is the only "nice" thing you have said. Im not here for attention, Im here cause you are holding a snake hostage for a couple of Cnotes. So dont "sweetie" me, because you are the one being nasty. LOL!!!! You are making a really swell morning though!!!!:D:D:D:D

How am I keeping it in deplorable circumstances someone is coming to pick it up tonight and I have had it for only 2 days.By the way I am giving it away at this point.WHY you ask because I do care for living things and the person who offered me $50 at first was a liar and told me it was very common and worth less than a burmese if he was just honest with me from the beginning instead of trying to scam me it would have been given to him without any questions I just really do not like scammers

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

actually sweetie I was told to come here by the original poster of this thread it is all about my situation and me not you there are other threads on here you can make about you if you need the attention and the only nasty things I have said on here were to nasty responses that I have gotten about my situation.Of course I am naturally going to respond back.I have also said nice things and I was on here to educate myself about the situation and get some advice from people who would like to be a little understanding about my situation not from know it alls like yourself who just need some attention and have nothing else to do.If you don't like me on here the thread about me and my snake then go somewhere else.Nastiness is returned only with nasiness.

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With no prior information on how or why the animal was being kept in such deplorable conditions, there are going to be people outraged and voice their opinions.

If your offended that people gave their criticism to how your were trying to sell the animal, then you need to know that we ALL value our reptiles highly and don't like to see people making a fast buck on any animals they have no experience with.

If this were a puppy, chained up outside that was living without proper shelter, in the hot sun... you can expect some outraged responses when the person in possession says "I'm not going to sell the animal for less than I've been told it's worth"

That same person would more likely than not be turned in to animal control and have their animal seized.

You can drop the attitude and insults, because as you've said yourself, Nastiness is only returned with nastiness. Do you see this ever being resolved in this thread going down that path??

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

How am I keeping it in deplorable circumstances someone is coming to pick it up tonight and I have had it for only 2 days.By the way I am giving it away at this point.WHY you ask because I do care for living things and the person who offered me $50 at first was a liar and told me it was very common and worth less than a burmese if he was just honest with me from the beginning instead of trying to scam me it would have been given to him without any questions I just really do not like scammers

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In that condition, yes that snake is worth less than a burm.....

Nuff said!!!!

he did not know the conditions when he offered NUFF SAID

If there was a picture, which there is, then he knew.

I cant believe I wasted my 2000th post on you.......LOL

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

How am I keeping it in deplorable circumstances someone is coming to pick it up tonight and I have had it for only 2 days.By the way I am giving it away at this point.WHY you ask because I do care for living things and the person who offered me $50 at first was a liar and told me it was very common and worth less than a burmese if he was just honest with me from the beginning instead of trying to scam me it would have been given to him without any questions I just really do not like scammers

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I never said anything about it being worth more or less than a burmese. I'm the one who told you it wasn't a burmese to begin with. I also said I was willing to offer you $50.00 for it regardless of what it was. Burmese, garter, ball, jcp, puff adder, atp... I offered $50.00 and was very clear you could probably find someone willing to pay more if you looked hard enough.

Do you recall the conversation we had on the phone about it? Where I said several times you could probably find someone willing to pay you more than I was offering for it? That seems to have been lost on you at some point, Kathy.

Oh and to clear things up JCP's aren't worth any more than Burmese. It all depends on what the seller wants to sell them for and what they buyer wants to buy them for. But what does that have to do with the fact I was very clear in my offer?

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

WHY you ask because I do care for living things and the person who offered me $50 at first was a liar

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Actually, my guess would have been more along the lines of you were harassed and shamed into it, given your original request of a "reasonable" offer.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

told me it was very common and worth less than a burmese

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At this point, with the conditions the animal is subject to, there is no "worth" about it. The animal has not been taken care of, and will, without a doubt, incur a decent vet bill with no guarantee of survival.

Whether you think of it as a sale or re-homing, the reality of the situation is that whoever takes that animal off your hands will be performing a rescue.

I sent the pics to him after the fact.By the way like I said the living conditions are not the best I agree but deplorable is kinda stretching it the only thing in the tank that shouldn't be there is his own shedded skin so where the hell do you get deplorable I'm not dumping my garbage in it

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

he did not know the conditions when he offered NUFF SAID

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There was a picture on the Craig's List posting you put up and I asked you to send me more pictures which you did. I made the offer after you sent the rest of the 5 pictures you said you had.

no you did not that is a lie

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

I sent the pics to him after the fact.By the way like I said the living conditions are not the best I agree but deplorable is kinda stretching it the only thing in the tank that shouldn't be there is his own shedded skin so where the hell do you get deplorable I'm not dumping my garbage in it

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Considering you have no experience with carpet pythons, who are you to judge whether it is deplorable or not? To me, YES, those are deplorable living conditions for any animal. You don't know what good husbandry is, so how can you even comment on what is bad or deplorable?

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

no you did not that is a lie

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Really? I think you should go check your email history before I post everything for everyone to see and judge for themselves. I'm wholly confidant it is simply a case of you mixing some emails up and am willing to let you "discover" for yourself what I said was true. I have the emails we exchanged back and forth and I'm sure you do too.

Im still quite honestly shocked at how atrocious you are. I like how its you with the snake in bad conditions, its you who is trying to make a buck to recover damage costs (which is illegal isnt it?) and its you who is bringing the attitude, but for some reason, all 50 other people who have said things in this post are somehow wrong.......IT MUST HAVE BEEN A TYPO A TYPO A TYPO, MUST HAVE BEEN A TYPO IT CANT BE TRUE!!!

you saw pics of it that is it you did not see it in person please tell me what is the deplorable part of it.I'd really like to know.And also so far out of every comment on here not 1 person has emailed,mentioned or called me on how to fix the problem all you people seem to care about is putting your 2 cents in if you care so much give me a call or email me and let me know how I can safely fix the problem instead of gossiping about it like little 5 year olds and personaly insulting my intentions what about yours.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

the living conditions are not the best I agree but deplorable is kinda stretching it

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Since you have no background in keeping these kinds of animals, I can understand why you might think so. It's not about the skins laying around it, but rather the fact that the enclosure is completely inadequate for that animal in terms of temperature, humidity, cleanliness, etc. and that the animal is at risk of any number of conditions due to this.

These are all things you obviously don't understand, and since you've never intended to keep the animal, had no desire to understand, but with which we all take issue, and all which are obvious in the two pictures posted to craigs list.

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Originally Posted by bsd13

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8...ofsnaketw9.jpg

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And here are the reasons why

No heat source :Provide your carpet with a basking spot of 86-88 F and an ambient (background) temperature of 75-78 F. The ambient temperature should not fall below 75 F.

Improper humidity: Unless you live in Miami, that carpet python does not have 50% humidity in the tank

No water: In that picture, the animal does not have water in the bowl

Soiled bedding: The snakes bedding is soiled with urates and waste. No doubt breeding large amounts of bacteria, fungi, and mold. This is a serious health issue with concerns to belly rot

No proper hides: One large hide that offers very little security. The only good thing about the hide is that the animal does not have to sit on the soiled bedding.

No measuring units: You have no idea if that snake is hot or cold. Snakes are cold blooded, and they need a basking spot with warm air temperatures and proper humidity to avoid Upper respiratory illness.

None of those snakes simple needs are being met, except you say that you have fed him in the 2 days you've had him. Which I highly doubt if you have only had him for two days, why would you feed an animal you are not only afraid of, but are trying to get rid of as quickly as possible??

Those sweetie are deplorable conditions. If you want to read on what a carpet needs to thrive, check out this site and get him into a warm clean home.
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/CareCarpet.html

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

you saw pics of it that is it you did not see it in person

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Ever hear that pictures tell a thousand words? The second on on your craig's list ad is more than enough. No temperature or humidity control beyond a useless heat rock, and a horribly filthy tank.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

so far out of every comment on here not 1 person has emailed,mentioned or called me on how to fix the problem

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That's because you've been more than clear in your intentions to unload the animal, so why bother? The quicker it's out of your hands the better, and it seems you've found a good home, and have lost your requirement of a "reasonable offer"... mission accomplished.

This has gone from me trying to be educated on the situation to plain defending my actions and honestly I have better things to do with my time if no one wants to help me make the conditions better then yes!yes!yes! you are all hypocrites if any one would like to shoot me an email or call me on it with good intentions only then feel free until then you can gossip all you want or find someone else to offend because I am so done with this.....WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND PEOPLE!Have a nice life

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

This has gone from me trying to be educated on the situation to plain defending my actions and honestly I have better things to do with my time if no one wants to help me make the conditions better then yes!yes!yes! you are all hypocrites if any one would like to shoot me an email or call me on it with good intentions only then feel free until then you can gossip all you want or find someone else to offend because I am so done with this.....WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND PEOPLE!Have a nice life

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wow......you are an A+ human.:weirdface:weirdface

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

This has gone from me trying to be educated on the situation to plain defending my actions and honestly I have better things to do with my time if no one wants to help me make the conditions better then yes!yes!yes! you are all hypocrites if any one would like to shoot me an email or call me on it with good intentions only then feel free until then you can gossip all you want or find someone else to offend because I am so done with this.....WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND PEOPLE!Have a nice life

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If you choose to have selective reading and ignore the caresheet I posted, then perhaps it is best for you to move on. You can only lead a horse to water... God help that snake.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND PEOPLE!

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We're counting on that (it's the snake we're thinking about, not you of course).

by the way little indian girl if you would like to give me your address I will email you the frozen mice I have left over you don't know me and you are all :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:s

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

This has gone from me trying to be educated on the situation to plain defending my actions and honestly I have better things to do with my time if no one wants to help me make the conditions better then yes!yes!yes! you are all hypocrites if any one would like to shoot me an email or call me on it with good intentions only then feel free until then you can gossip all you want or find someone else to offend because I am so done with this.....WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND PEOPLE!Have a nice life

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Why do you care if anyone helps you to make it's life better? You have someone coming to pick it up tonight, remember? Or did you lie about that?

I think we'll all have a great life, thanks for your concern.

One last thing. Here's one of the emails we exchanged. It pretty much proves that I was clearly not going to offer you "market value" for an animal that had no value at all.

From: "B. Durant" <*****@gmail.com>
To: *****@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:30:24 +0000
Subject: Re: snake pics
Thanks for the pictures. That is definitely a NOT a Burmese python. It is a Jungle Carpet Python probably about 2-3 years old judging by the size. How much are you hoping to get for it? I'm willing to take him/her off of your hands, but being perfectly honest I'm not will to pay much because it's not an uncommon genetic morph. I'll also give you a call in a little bit, but wanted to thank you for sending the pictures.
Brook

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

by the way little indian girl if you would like to give me your address I will email you the frozen mice I have left over you don't know me and you are all :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:s

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You just proved all our points right there lady!

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

by the way little indian girl if you would like to give me your address I will email you the frozen mice I have left over you don't know me and you are all :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:s

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Ahh, see how you respond to my trying to help you? I gave you a quick rundown and a link to a great caresheet by some of the top breeders in the country.

Then you respond with more curses and insults. My mistake for thinking you were sincere! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ctrlfreq

At no point would I let any of my investments risk my family's financial well-being though.

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this simply isn't always possible in the rental business

horrible snake lady you should find yourself lucky that the OP even offered you $50, you should be happy that someone knowledgeable is willing to take this animal of your hands to give it a better life.

If I was left with an animal I did not want or could not care for my priority would be to find a knowledgeable owner not to make money.

We are not talking about a healthy well taken care off JCP coming from a reputable breeder we are talking about a rescue.

$200 on a JCP from a reputable breeder YES, for a rescue not no but HELL no.

The truth is you could not care less about the well being of this animal and you just want to make a few bucks, and that lady is called GRID. http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...icons/Rant.gif

Classy voicemail you left me Kathy. You sound pretty close to tears. You're more than entitled to "charge me with harassment" if you think it will do anything to make you feel better :)

I didn't give any of your contact information out to anyone. I posted a link to a Craig's List advertisement that you posted of your own free will with your contact information on it. Or did you forget about that?

As far as being harassed you took it upon yourself to jump on the forums and participate. I just gave you the link. No one said you had to come on and endure anything.

As far as the person who emailed you saying I had a poor reputation on these forums oh well what can I say. You're more than welcome to go through the history of my posts and check them out and see how good or bad my "reputation" on this forum is.

If indeed you got an email like that my guess is that it came from either the person who you're giving the snake away to, or from a friend of theirs who wanted the snake.

Oh I live in Beverly. There's no need to "find out where I live". I've been completely honest and up front with you about everything.

Everyone else, please stop harassing Kathy. Please?

God Bless!

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

This has gone from me trying to be educated on the situation to plain defending my actions and honestly I have better things to do with my time if no one wants to help me make the conditions better then yes!yes!yes! you are all hypocrites if any one would like to shoot me an email or call me on it with good intentions only then feel free until then you can gossip all you want or find someone else to offend because I am so done with this.....WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND PEOPLE!Have a nice life

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Actually before deciding to make a quick buck of that snake did you make any attempt to find out how to properly care for this animal???

I know I would have, and I can tell you if you did and joined any forum explaining your situation many people would have offer help you.

One last word before I go Whoever is the first person to tell me there address I will mail you a genuine snake caucus because your all right I don't give a :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r: and I'm just trying to make a buck so you can put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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Originally Posted by Warm-blooded

this simply isn't always possible in the rental business

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Which is the #1 reason I've avoided it completely. It's simply not a smart investment unless you have sufficient capital to get into it, and if you don't do your homework, you can quickly find yourself deep in red ink and losing more than just your rental properties.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

One last word before I go Whoever is the first person to tell me there address I will mail you a genuine snake caucus

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hahaha a snake caucus, I can picture that meeting, a bunch of snakes gathered, debating political views. hahahahaahahaha

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

One last word before I go Whoever is the first person to tell me there address I will mail you a genuine snake caucus because your all right I don't give a :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r: and I'm just trying to make a buck so you can put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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How about my ex GF's address? But in all seriousness you are being very unreasonable. Just give the snake to anyone if you dont care about it.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

One last word before I go Whoever is the first person to tell me there address I will mail you a genuine snake caucus because your all right I don't give a :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r: and I'm just trying to make a buck so you can put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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Feels good to tell the truth doesn't it, Kathy.

wow...just wow! :(

bsd13, glad you at least offered to help out this poor snake. Sorry this "lady" cares more for a dollar and another living being.

Kudos to you for trying :)

Poor, poor woman.....:blahblah::frustrate:bye:

here is the email I was lying about so you can look for yourself it was someone from
your clicky forum who obviously loves you and your crappy lies as far as me
sounding like I was going to cry very far from the truth I own 2 properties have
3 cars a inground swimming pool a travel trailer a son and a husband I'm sure
allot more than you can speak of I did not realize that the living conditions
for that snake were so bad I know nothing about snakes like I said I don't know
what it needs and if you want to call it just business you go right ahead there
is a reason I have all the things I have and it was not gotten by selling a
snake for an extra few dollars and what a bunch of snake lovers have to say
about certainly is not going to bother me I can guarantee you I am a far better
person than most of them I might not be saving snakes but every day I save a
human life and make it better in some way and I will take that over saving a
snake anyday so you can go ahead and think your making thi
s a better world by trying to con someone out of a snake and make everyone think your just trying to save
it when your just trying to make money off of it yourself and I will keep making
humankinds life a little better.
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From: "not you" <sarcasmrus@gmail.com>
To: "brlmom@comcast.net" <brlmom@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: your mail
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:45:30 +0000
> Depending on if it's a male or female...males usually sell for
> 200....females 250
>
> adults, slightly more because they are breedable
>
>
> On 4/8/08, brlmom@comcast.net <brlmom@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Could you please tell me how much you think its worth thank you kathy
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "not you" <sarcasmrus@gmail.com>
> > > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> > > ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> > > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> > > ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
> > > I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at
> > our
> > > forum is less than savory
> > >
> > >
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> >
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> > To: comm-634640140@craigslist.org
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:17:31 +0000
> > Subject:
> > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> > ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> > ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
> > I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at
> > our forum is less than savory
> >
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Depending on if it's a male or female...males usually sell for 200....females 250

adults, slightly more because they are breedable


On 4/8/08, brlmom@comcast.net <brlmom@comcast.net> wrote:

Could you please tell me how much you think its worth thank you kathy
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From: "not you" <sarcasmrus@gmail.com>
> ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
>
> Hi
>
> That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
> I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at our
> forum is less than savory
>
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** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
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Hi

That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at our forum is less than savory

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

here is the email I was lying about so you can look for yourself it was someone from
your clicky forum who obviously loves you and your crappy lies as far as me
sounding like I was going to cry very far from the truth I own 2 properties have
3 cars a inground swimming pool a travel trailer a son and a husband I'm sure
allot more than you can speak of I did not realize that the living conditions
for that snake were so bad I know nothing about snakes like I said I don't know
what it needs and if you want to call it just business you go right ahead there
is a reason I have all the things I have and it was not gotten by selling a
snake for an extra few dollars and what a bunch of snake lovers have to say
about certainly is not going to bother me I can guarantee you I am a far better
person than most of them I might not be saving snakes but every day I save a
human life and make it better in some way and I will take that over saving a
snake anyday so you can go ahead and think your making thi
s a better world by trying to con someone out of a snake and make everyone think your just trying to save
it when your just trying to make money off of it yourself and I will keep making
humankinds life a little better.
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "not you" <sarcasmrus@gmail.com>
To: "brlmom@comcast.net" <brlmom@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: your mail
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:45:30 +0000
> Depending on if it's a male or female...males usually sell for
> 200....females 250
>
> adults, slightly more because they are breedable
>
>
> On 4/8/08, brlmom@comcast.net <brlmom@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Could you please tell me how much you think its worth thank you kathy
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "not you" <sarcasmrus@gmail.com>
> > > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> > > ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> > > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> > > ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
> > > I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at
> > our
> > > forum is less than savory
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > this message was remailed to you via: comm-634640140@craigslist.org
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> >
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> >
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> > To: comm-634640140@craigslist.org
> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:17:31 +0000
> > Subject:
> > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> > ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> > ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
> > I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at
> > our forum is less than savory
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > this message was remailed to you via: comm-634640140@craigslist.org
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> >
> >


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To: "brlmom@comcast.net" <brlmom@comcast.net>
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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:45:30 +0000

Depending on if it's a male or female...males usually sell for 200....females 250

adults, slightly more because they are breedable


On 4/8/08, brlmom@comcast.net <brlmom@comcast.net> wrote:

Could you please tell me how much you think its worth thank you kathy
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "not you" <sarcasmrus@gmail.com>
> ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
> ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
> ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
> ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
>
> Hi
>
> That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
> I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at our
> forum is less than savory
>
>
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From: "not you" <sarcasmrus@gmail.com>
To: comm-634640140@craigslist.org
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:17:31 +0000
Subject:
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Hi

That snake is a Jungle Carpet Python and worth alot more than a Burm.
I know you have someone interested but PLEASE be careful...their rep at our forum is less than savory

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So while proving that you got an email from some coward on these forums you show yourself to be a liar AGAIN.

You told me in your email that your "expert" snake friend had come by and told you how much the snake was worth. So now it turns out you lied about that too. No one came by that afternoon someone emailed you. My goodness Kathy do you know how not to lie? Thank God I didn't do any business with you! Too bad for the snake, but oh well.

As far as all the "things" you have... Who cares? It's all gone in the blink of an eye. Oh and don't lie about saving lives everyday Kathy because I've been there and done that and trust me you're to mentally unstable to do anything in a SAR organization, or the Emergency Services field. Unless you mean billing in which case hell even I'd give you a job.

You're a stay at home mom. I got that from Craig's List too in case you're wondering. You know the "I need work" ad you posted.

But hey at this point where just throwing garbage at one another. Sorry it didn't work out. You clearly decided you didn't want me to have the snake which is fine. Stuff happens. Hopefully you either find a good home for it, or you spend some time learning how to take care of it. They can make amazing pets if handled properly.

Peace be with you, and God Bless!

you have no idea what the hell your talking about I did have a snake handler take a look at it and I am also a nurse going to school and doing an internship dillweed so come up with another one

You are posting this email yet are still missing the point :rolleye2:.

$200 is what a snake like in good health, kept in good conditions and coming from a REPUTABLE BREEDER is sold for, but last time I check this is not the case here.

This is a RESCUE and you should be glad to even get $50 for re-homing fee.

If someone wanted a JCP and was willing to pay $200 for it, they would not get it on graigslist from someone trying to make a quick buck on animal that is poorly taken care of.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

you have no idea what the hell your talking about I did have a snake handler take a look at it and I am also a nurse going to school and doing an internship dillweed so come up with another one

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I'm tempted to post the link itself, but it has your last name in it. So I'll post an image of the ad and take out the last name.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...3/clistad1.gif

I guess congratulations are in order for you finding a job as a nurse in the past two days AND saving lives already!

It would be great if a Mod could lock down this thread as at this point it serves no purpose concerning the snake. Would love to see it still available for our viewing "pleasure".

you are such an idiot I am a student intern by the way everybody I was not asking $200 for it I don't even want that much I told him that because of the fact that he tried to con me and no other reason.If I wanted to try to get more money for it I wouldn't be selling it tonight for $75 with the tank and everything when he was willing to pay $50 for just the snake and I could have cleaned the tank and sold it for more money than the snake.But BY MY CHOICE AND MY CHOICE ONLY I CHOOSE NOT TO.By the way I am looking for a job also because my husband is a firefighter and it is tough to find a job that will work around my husbands schedule and I refuse to put my son in daycare.You know nothing about me or who I am so don't pretend you understand my situation worry about yourself.Obviously You need to handle snakes because you have a girls name and you need to feel more like a man

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

you are such an idiot I am a student intern by the way everybody I was not asking $200 for it I don't even want that much I told him that because of the fact that he tried to con me and no other reason.If I wanted to try to get more money for it I wouldn't be selling it tonight for $75 with the tank and everything when he was willing to pay $50 for just the snake and I could have cleaned the tank and sold it for more money than the snake.But BY MY CHOICE AND MY CHOICE ONLY I CHOOSE NOT TO.By the way I am looking for a job also because my husband is a firefighter and it is tough to find a job that will work around my husbands schedule and I refuse to put my son in daycare.You know nothing about me or who I am so don't pretend you understand my situation worry about yourself.Obviously You need to handle snakes because you have a girls name and you need to feel more like a man

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You've still not established how I tried to con you. I can't speak for the rest of anyone else, but I'm still waiting on that evidence.

Con you by saying I wasn't willing to give you what you might be able to get for it because of the conditions?

Con you by telling you what it really was instead of letting you think it was a burmese which you apparently think have less value than a JCP?

Con you by showing you to these forums so everything was out in the open and you could learn how much it was actually worth?

Come again...

Oh and didn't you say several times you were just giving it away to someone tonight? So once again you've lied and proven it for all to see.

Last question, if you have a job already how do you get back into the work force? Maybe you work to hard. Maybe that's part of your problem.

Edit: Oh yeah I was named after a fish. It's called a brook trout.

Wow, this managed to turn into a huge thing. "Horrible Snake Lady", if you don't like us just stop bothering to look here and stop posting. You say you are done and continue on with your immatureness. I'm a college student and have younger cousins that continue to bicker like you do. So for your own sake, please stop making yourself look bad. Just turn your head and walk away. Its easier then you might think.

This is way out of control and Kathy, you contradict yourself so badly, it makes me want to SCREAM at the computer screen like a five year old. Anyway Bring on the lock...

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

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Yes, that is my phone number. You're welcome to call at any time. I won't answer if I don't feel like talking or if I'm working with one of my clients (I hope you understand), but more than willing to talk "snake" with anyone out there.

Just so you know and it's clear to everyone. I don't sell snakes, I don't trade them, or anything else. At some point perhaps, but right now that's not my interest.

That is because I am not in the workforce I am a student pay attention!!Why don't you give my husband a call a tell him all the things you've try to accuse me of and personal insults you have thrown my way you can see how he takes it.Instead you insult a girl when my husband is in the same boat I am lets see what you have to say to him BIG MOUTH!!!

Your Psycho!