What kind is this?

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Originally Posted by babygerl3094

they are there but u have to sign up to see them...

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Yep thats the reason :D

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Originally Posted by patthesnakeman

i wish the pics were still in that original thread

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They are - in the thread linked right above your post.

For those questioning the "employee". Bryon is not only a moderator on Fauna, but he's been a featured guest on Reptile Radio. I don't believe he had any other motivation than to show the deplorable conditions at Big Daddy while he was employed there.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

They are - in the thread linked right above your post.

For those questioning the "employee". Bryon is not only a moderator on Fauna, but he's been a featured guest on Reptile Radio. I don't believe he had any other motivation than to show the deplorable conditions at Big Daddy while he was employed there.

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I agree it took alot of courage for Bryon to reveal Allens mess to us all and in my book he is one of the good ones :gj:

I can see them LOL, in this thread...
maybe you need to update your browser...

im not a fauna member

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im not a fauna member

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Sign up?

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I can see them LOL, in this thread...
maybe you need to update your browser...

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can u see the pics ??? if not ill try again to load them so people can see the mess that those animals are livin in... just let me know

No dont bother. I can see them on this thread, not fauna.

lol yeah thats what i meant..if u could see them in this thread... some people said that they cant see them:confused:

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hope this works :confused:

hahah no it didnt work

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You can't do it because they're attachemts from another forum....Now, if you are registered and signed in, then you can see it when u click the link.

that's one way.

if you're desperate to get them on this forum, then just save them and put them on Photobucket.

well well if u got them so everyone else can see then good cause it would have driven me frickin crazy.... so thank u

as for this guy defending himself i dont think his word speak louder then these pics....please if u can explain...

those pictures are absolutely disgusting. I feel bad for those animals

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i think its funny how once, someone has some problems, and now they are :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r: for life! you think microsoft got windows right the first time it was released. i know it had many problems, but do you still use it?

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unfortunately yes. but then Macs made a come back :D

Look at the pics and you will see that the poop is wet which means it's fresh. You will see spilled water on newspaper that still has not even been absorbed all the way yet. You will see several snakes in one small rack wit5h poop present all around. However look at the albino or the pied or the other lighter colored snakes. My question is how can none of those snakes have poop on them if that situation was accuratly portrayed. Give me a break! No poop on any of the snakes? All the poop in the pics wet, not old? Wet water not even soaked up through newspaper yet? Do a test and pour some water on newspaper at your home tonight and look at it in an hour. Now it's not bounty the quicker picker uper but it sure looks different than in the pictures on fauna. I have offered to anyone for you to come and see for yourself just what the real deal is. I will even sweeten this offer. IF YOU WANT TO COME AND MONEY IS TIGHT RIGHT NOW. CALL ME AND I WILL HELP AND POSSIBLY EVEN PAY YOUR GAS TO COME. The only catch is that you give a true and accurate thread with pics.
I shipped 42 shipments this week containing various balls, retics and boas. All satisfied and happy customers. I will ship a handful more next week and that will finish up our year. To date we have shipped over 800 packages containing various reptiles all over the world this 07 season. With only two (2) complaints both being missexed snakes with which we made right and the customers were made happy and satisfied. Give me a break! Come and see for yourself on me.
As far as being slammed for the low prices. I did not ask anyone to help me buy any of my collection. I am the sole owner. I promised to bring the wholesale prices to the everyday average Joes who never seem to catch a break. Customers love it. Other breeders and venders who buy from me love it. And the rest hate it. But I watched as behind the table deals went on at shows and in hotels when someone would trash talk a snake and say oh it's only worth 1000.00 to buy it knowing better, when they would be telling the general public the very next day that 2000.00 for the same snake was a deal that no one else will sell them one for less. I am sorry but I find this unethical so I decided to do something to help fix the problem. So yes I get slammed for selling to cheap at times and get hate emails all the time and hang up calls even. But what makes it all worth while is when I help a person who bought their snakes from me and talk them through their first breeding season and tell them how to incubate the eggs and I get the email or call saying Thanks I just hatched my first ball. That's why I do it.
Just come see for yourself!

Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

How can you explain the amount of feces in these enclosures? Regardless if they were on newspaper or not, snakes don't poop that often. And if it were changed recently, then only by housing multiple snakes in the same tub for a period of weeks could you get so much waste.

As for the substrate, some have newspaper yes, but there are some with aspen. Aspen that looks drenched and moldy. The blood python in there, looks to be in a very digusting enclosure, what is the black stuff?

The clearly decaying frog?

You ask us to scrutinize and find that there is no poop on those snakes. How? Such a tiny picture? I actually dont see much poop in there, just a urate...


The albino and pinstripe have it COUNT 4 piles of poop and urates, one in each corner... that is a lot of poop....

the heat lamp inside of the enclosure? why is that there?

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ok in this one pic the second one that she posted with the albino..... i see poop/urates in ALL of the corners and the albinos head is right on top of one of them.... and if u look at ur newspapers.... they look old and dryed out, u can tell the difference when paper has been wet and then dryed up.... but theres no reason for the paper to start turnin yellowish brown nor would u see the crinkles in the paper if they were "fresh pieces" so as i said before these pics are sayin alot more then ur words right now

Would either of you like to come see in person? Picture were staged. I have said it from the start and will continue to attest to that. Come take your own pics and post then.
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wow that is a very nice post for being bashed like that by every one

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Would either of you like to come see in person? Picture were staged. I have said it from the start and will continue to attest to that. Come take your own pics and post then.
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ok, can u please explain to me how something like that can be staged ???

do people save the poop ?? or something ??

I have over 500 snakes here right now and this is the off season. Also they are all in individual cages except for the ones being bred at the moment. The day he took the pics, I was out of town and he went into the snake room and locked the door. He told the two girls that worked for me at the present time that I had told him noone but me and him were allowed in the room anymore due to trust issues. The girls said he was in there for about three hours that afternoon. He was given time and duty to clean the snakes twice every week and then feed and spot clean another. I posted his daily routine for his last week in that same thread. You might want to review it as well. He had time and opportunity to take poop and stage the pics. I have already stated he was pissed about a snake deal that he wanted to purchase but didn't have the funds to do so.
Why aren't the snakes that are in the cages dirty? I will tell you, because they were only in those condictions for minutes to get the pics.
Dark looking substance in the blood pic. Wet GREEN spagnum moss
Dead frog. I was getting some imported orders from indonesia at the time (kept in a seperate building at another location) and death was unavoidable with the way and condiction some stuff came in.
Question still stands here for you. ARE YOU COMING AND BRINGING YOUR CAMERA OR NOT?

Allen Belcher 706-615-4772

i dont know you at all allen but im with you. i think people jump to huge conclusions here.

how much would gas be from cali to georgia?

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I like how they try to focus on those pictures... "he wasnt doing his job!" "that's illegal!" "they're staged" "He should have been cleaning instead of goofing off!!"

Yes okay, focus on the pictures. Really though, FOCUS ON THE PICTURES. If I had an employee slacking for 3 days, he would be gone. And you know what I would be doing? CLEANING. CLEANING. and CLEANING SOME MORE.

Blaming filthy conditions on a temporary employee is not owning up to the responsibility that these animals were ultimately HIS responsibilty.

It's very clear that these conditions were horrendous, how could he have not noticed??
If I had people working under me with my lively hood, you bet your bum I would be following up and making sure I'm paying them for work that meet my standards.

Anything your employess do, comes down to the Boss. Meaning, if your employess screw around and dont clean, hire some news ones. Maybe some more man power was needed. Maybe Allen should have supervised.
Regardless, Allen is the one that has to deal with the conditions of those animals, and if his employees can't take care of it, he should have been the one cleaning up after them after 1 DAY, not neglecting them for weeks until it got to the mess shown in the pictures.

Animals should not be the last on the to do list, esp when your business is selling animals.

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I was thinking the same thing.
There are some nights that I come home dog-tired. What do I do before even eating dinner? I clean. It is not an issue of not having time or manpower. It is either making time and doing it yourself, or not keeping animals, period.
If I were the owner of the shop, I would have inspected things to make sure that a new employee was doing things right. If they weren't, they'd be canned, and I would stay all night if needed to clean. My personal opinion.

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I have over 500 snakes here right now and this is the off season. Also they are all in individual cages except for the ones being bred at the moment. The day he took the pics, I was out of town and he went into the snake room and locked the door. He told the two girls that worked for me at the present time that I had told him noone but me and him were allowed in the room anymore due to trust issues. The girls said he was in there for about three hours that afternoon. He was given time and duty to clean the snakes twice every week and then feed and spot clean another. I posted his daily routine for his last week in that same thread. You might want to review it as well. He had time and opportunity to take poop and stage the pics. I have already stated he was pissed about a snake deal that he wanted to purchase but didn't have the funds to do so.
Why aren't the snakes that are in the cages dirty? I will tell you, because they were only in those condictions for minutes to get the pics.
Dark looking substance in the blood pic. Wet GREEN spagnum moss
Dead frog. I was getting some imported orders from indonesia at the time (kept in a seperate building at another location) and death was unavoidable with the way and condiction some stuff came in.
Question still stands here for you. ARE YOU COMING AND BRINGING YOUR CAMERA OR NOT?

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OK. Maybe it was a slacking, disgruntled employee. It is just hard to know.. if so, then I personally am sorry if I upset you. If not, then you know the truth.. no one else does I guess, except you and the former employee.

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to be honest...its kinda hard to give u the benifit of the doubt... im a mother of 3 so my life is based on cleanin every min of the day.... and my snake is my 4th child...and i take just as good care of him as i would my own child.... and i have to clean all the time... its just comes with the job.... if u are so set that this was a set up then how about u post pic up here that will help us see that this is not they really look like ???

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to be honest...its kinda hard to give u the benifit of the doubt... im a mother of 3 so my life is based on cleanin every min of the day.... and my snake is my 4th child...and i take just as good care of him as i would my own child.... and i have to clean all the time... its just comes with the job.... if u are so set that this was a set up then how about u post pic up here that will help us see that this is not they really look like ???

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Now it might take some time to stage THOSE pics for us:rolleyes:.See you in a week Allen no rush
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No offense, but those of you with a handful of snakes have no freakin clue as to what you are saying.............so really a dose of STFU is in order......unless you have at LEAST 100 snakes. Allen has far more than that, so it is IMMINENT that a cage will get :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ty at some point. Anyone that has that many is an out and out LIAR if they say otherwise. Any schmuck with a camera could take pics to make ANYONES snake room look like an abomination.

Personally, I give people the benefit of the doubt......it is america after all.....and it's Christmas time. :salute:

Allen, if you'd like to send me a couple female spiders, a female mojo, pin, etc, I'll prove to people that all the reptiles in my house don't die mysteriously and instantaniously in their presence, lmao. :banana:

Personally, I will not pay more for a lesser quality animal because it comes from a BP net suckup.....and i see that ALOT around here. There are no gucci brand snakes.....if the animal is quality, thats all that matters.....whether it comes from joe schmoe or Nerd is immaterial.

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No offense, but those of you with a handful of snakes have no freakin clue as to what you are saying.............so really a dose of STFU is in order......unless you have at LEAST 100 snakes. Allen has far more than that, so it is IMMINENT that a cage will get :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ty at some point. Anyone that has that many is an out and out LIAR if they say otherwise. Any schmuck with a camera could take pics to make ANYONES snake room look like an abomination.

Personally, I give people the benefit of the doubt......it is america after all.....and it's Christmas time. :salute:

Allen, if you'd like to send me a couple female spiders, a female mojo, pin, etc, I'll prove to people that all the reptiles in my house don't die mysteriously and instantaniously in their presence, lmao. :banana:

Personally, I will not pay more for a lesser quality animal because it comes from a BP net suckup.....and i see that ALOT around here. There are no gucci brand snakes.....if the animal is quality, thats all that matters.....whether it comes from joe schmoe or Nerd is immaterial.

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perfect!!!

...wow....

I'm not even going to touch that post.... like I said before...the BOI threads speak for themselves....

That would almost be like Chris Johnson from TSE coming back into the biz...and people saying to forgive him because..."people make mistakes"....

Ridley, if he can't keep up with the work of keeping them in clean and decent conditions, then he shouldn't have them, period. Same goes for pet hoarders and puppymills.

Can't handle the care? Don't keep so many. It's not hard.

I'm not talking about a snake that defecated the same day or tipped a water bowl and just hasn't been cleaned yet....we all have those. I'm talking about the dried on feces, the yellowed newspaper, etc. Nobody should ever be "too busy" to take care of that.

Yes, of course, they we're clearly staged. :rolleyes:

Regardless, we can't go back in time to see the conditions of the cages themselves on that very day.

However, he is the sole owner, and he is the one ultimately responsible for the snakes well being.

In this case, a picture says a thousand words.
Even if I were to come to your facilities today, it's not going to show me a darn thing about how the conditions were this fateful day. You very well could have cleaned up your act. And congratulations for doing so. I'm proud that you've got everything straight at the present.

But, as for business, I have only read a few posts that have anything to say good about you. The majority doesn't trust you. And in this hobby, more than anything, being a credible person is sometimes the only thing that us buyers have to go on. You at the moment have very little to no credit.

The only thing you can really do is keep your head down, and work constantly towards building up the trust and credit that was ruined. Blaming people won't get you anywhere when it's very graphic pictures versus your word. People need evidence that you've cleaned up, and thank you for the invite, but I decline. I myself don't trust you either.

Again, my advice, keep plugging away, and perhaps in 10 years you can show us with excellent customer service and quality stock that you have indeed gone above and beyond the call of duty, and you are worth trusting. But until then...

i help Jon from Coldbloodedaddiction.com clean his snakes every week. twice a week as often as we can. i hate to tell you this but his snake rooms are correctly set up with the most up to date cages/ thermostats, he doesnt use glass tanks to hold animals in, each snake has its own tub and when it is trashed he has clean tubs ready to go and switchs them out asap. his place is CLEAN. i wash my hand so often there even with rubber gloves on that it looks like i got out of the bath tub because he makes sure that every one is clean as possible and has NEVER had a case of RI or anything else for that matter because of what we do. so Ridley there is no excuse. i personally do the same at my house and do not let something sit there with a nasty tub. and yes he has WAY over 100 snakes.

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No offense, but those of you with a handful of snakes have no freakin clue as to what you are saying.............so really a dose of STFU is in order......unless you have at LEAST 100 snakes. Allen has far more than that, so it is IMMINENT that a cage will get :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ty at some point. Anyone that has that many is an out and out LIAR if they say otherwise. Any schmuck with a camera could take pics to make ANYONES snake room look like an abomination.

Personally, I give people the benefit of the doubt......it is america after all.....and it's Christmas time. :salute:

Allen, if you'd like to send me a couple female spiders, a female mojo, pin, etc, I'll prove to people that all the reptiles in my house don't die mysteriously and instantaniously in their presence, lmao. :banana:

Personally, I will not pay more for a lesser quality animal because it comes from a BP net suckup.....and i see that ALOT around here. There are no gucci brand snakes.....if the animal is quality, thats all that matters.....whether it comes from joe schmoe or Nerd is immaterial.

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Gee someone needs an attitude adjustment! ;) Who do you think you are? I myself have seen NO PROOF otherwise that Allen should be trusted nor buy anything from him.If you want to buy his reptiles thats fine but dont come here calling us suckups before you check your own nose ;).

Ok i have a direct question for Allen.In a direct email to you from myself your response was that you suspected IBD and had BLOOD WORK done.In that same message you said everyone disliked you because you are a "souther boy".Why are you constantly changing the reasons you think no one likes you? It has to be either one or the other.Whats the next excuse? One more thing i will point out that you openly messed up in my opinion.You stated that you had a university do BLOOD work correct? In my understanding you CAN NOT diagnose IBD thru blood work.It can only be ruled out or in thru a neocropsy(not sure if spelled correctly lol).In that same letter you also stated it might have been in your wholesell collection.So maybe it was transfered to your other collection by one of the snakes being added to your "million dollar" collection ;).Either way the proof is in the pudding as they say and your pudding contains spoiled milk ;).If anyone would like to read this letter i am speaking of in this post please follow this link and read page 5 post 25 ;). http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ghlight=Daddys

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I would like to hear from OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAS BEEN AND SEEN THE FACILITIES FIRST HAND AS WELL. You never hear anything negative from anyone who has been here only the people who think they know. Also the people who have been are afraid to stick their neck out and tell their side because of the crap given to them for speaking on what they KNOW. And I have to much class to throw names out and run them under the bus! Good luck on your quest to find out information on what people who actually know think. I am afraid you will find yourself sorting through alot of of topic statements, from people who think they know but have never been here.

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In your post on fauna you stated you told people to stay out of it.Now you come here and say they are "afraid to stick their necks out".Which on is it? Allen i think you need to set down and get your story straight before you get a headache ;).

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Personally, I will not pay more for a lesser quality animal because it comes from a BP net suckup.....and i see that ALOT around here. There are no gucci brand snakes.....if the animal is quality, thats all that matters.....whether it comes from joe schmoe or Nerd is immaterial.

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Not sure what to make of this???

Yes quality animals are what matter, however there are people out there I will never support with my business, regardless of the animals they offer, but hey that's just me!

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Gee someone needs an attitude adjustment! ;) Who do you think you are? I myself have seen NO PROOF otherwise that Allen should be trusted nor buy anything from him.If you want to buy his reptiles thats fine but dont come here calling us suckups before you check your own nose ;).

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No attitude adjustment needed...nor will be given here :colbert: 99% of the people on here are adolescent hobbyists at best and have no idea what they are talking about....all they do is regurgitate info they have been fed. The REAL breeders on these threads seem to be mute on the subject, and the ones that are vocal will be seen as pandering, at least thats how I see it. When I first logged on here, I was amazed that a Ball Python could ever survive in the wild after all the analistic remarks found here. I have a masters in biology specializing in herpetology and wildlife management, so I have a better understanding than most about husbandry. I love my animals, and take great care of them, but also live in the real world were REAL LIFE suddenly takes over at unexpected times. For instance our new baby decided to come early last night so my snake cages may go this whole next week without a thorough cleaning. ONOZ. And yes I'm typing this from the hospital so :colbert:

And yes, Cold Blooded Addiction has a great place, customer support, and great animals.........and he has a couple thousand dollars of mine to show for it :banana:

......to ridley:it's refreshing to see someone with the gonads to tell the truth,no matter how it will be received.you make some VERY valid points.have fun !

congrats on the early christmas present!

Well gawd, I must go get me some females, hatch me out 100 snakes...:rolleyes:

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......to ridley:it's refreshing to see someone with the gonads to tell the truth,no matter how it will be received.you make some VERY valid points.have fun !

congrats on the early christmas present!

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Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. :salute:

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Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. :salute:

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If you have so much more knowledge than much of the membership here, why aren't you more involved answering husbandry related questions and issues? It would only makes sense that a herpetology focused bio major would lend a helping hand to those that need it....I guess you have better things to deal with?

Oh well, until you start helping around here with your expertise we'll keep regurgitating our information. Happy Holidays.:gj:

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No attitude adjustment needed...nor will be given here :colbert: 99% of the people on here are adolescent hobbyists at best and have no idea what they are talking about....all they do is regurgitate info they have been fed. The REAL breeders on these threads seem to be mute on the subject, and the ones that are vocal will be seen as pandering, at least thats how I see it. When I first logged on here, I was amazed that a Ball Python could ever survive in the wild after all the analistic remarks found here. I have a masters in biology specializing in herpetology and wildlife management, so I have a better understanding than most about husbandry. I love my animals, and take great care of them, but also live in the real world were REAL LIFE suddenly takes over at unexpected times. For instance our new baby decided to come early last night so my snake cages may go this whole next week without a thorough cleaning. ONOZ. And yes I'm typing this from the hospital so :colbert:

And yes, Cold Blooded Addiction has a great place, customer support, and great animals.........and he has a couple thousand dollars of mine to show for it :banana:

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So if you have a degree in something that makes you somebody special over someone whom does not :rolleyes:.These people you are calling the REAL breeders who are staying mute maybe its because the rest of us have this subject under control ;).Congrats on the early little one on a side note :gj:

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If you have so much more knowledge than much of the membership here, why aren't you more involved answering husbandry related questions and issues? It would only makes sense that a herpetology focused bio major would lend a helping hand to those that need it....I guess you have better things to deal with?

Oh well, until you start helping around here with your expertise we'll keep regurgitating our information. Happy Holidays.:gj:

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Let me help out here :puke2: :puke2: :puke2: :rofl: :rofl:.

so when do we get to see updated pics ??

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If you have so much more knowledge than much of the membership here, why aren't you more involved answering husbandry related questions and issues? It would only makes sense that a herpetology focused bio major would lend a helping hand to those that need it....I guess you have better things to deal with?

Oh well, until you start helping around here with your expertise we'll keep regurgitating our information. Happy Holidays.:gj:

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Haha I was thinking the same thing. I know i'm a a novice snake keeper but then again I never claimed to have a masters. And so what if I don't, you think Ralph Davis has his Master? And I wouldn't feel any more superior if I did. The thing is i've done 2 years of research before even owning my first snake and in doing so I have learned the proper management of those snakes.even with 500 snakes I don't feel like I would be overwhelmed. Wake up at 8, make a coffee, start cleaning until my employees get to work cleaning the first 75. Repeat for 5 days, take the weekend off. And how long would it really take me to do that... a few hours a day. If big daddy wholesale was a professional establishment then this wouldn't even be a discussion.And I don't mean that because of the pictures. Because even if it was staged in this line of work you have to also be good with your PR skills because your not only selling snakes, you're selling your rep. You're selling yourself. He is just a novice with a lot of snakes is what i've concluded. And I don't need some over simplifying hypocrite with a masters to make me aware of that. This thread is officially dead to me. Happy Holidays!

I don't respond here very often for a few reasons.....(well, for that matter even visit very often)

First is the juvenile remarks from prepubescent teens when anything contradicting analistic tendencies they have regurgitated incesantly is posted.....

Secondly, like the few adults here I have a real JOB and FAMILY, and have better things to do than hang out with said " expert" teens......

Thirdly, though snakes are cool, I am much more into firearms collecting, tactical rifle matches, hunting, fishing, and atv racing/riding.......

Fourthly, besides the pictures which is the only reason i joined this forum, there is absolutely NOTHING new posted here. It's just the same questions over, and over, and over.......

So with that being said, I'll let the little kiddies have the last say and go back to looking at the pics once a month. :rolleyes:

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I don't respond here very often because i dont have a clue of how to properly care for my snakes :(

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Well if you were to stick around and not be so rude we just might teach you something :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:.

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Well if you were to stick around and not be so rude we just might teach you something :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:.

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Bwhahahahaha

Now go to bed, it's way past your bedtime. Sooner or later mommy will will find out and ground you