Wow. Some people's fear/ignorance.

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A previous poster suggested that it's irresponsible & perhaps un-Christian to own a snake because they could get out & become a danger to neighbors. I would be MUCH more fearful if my neighbor owned a pit bull rather than a snake. As a runner, I often have to contend with angry unleased dogs. I've never once had someone's pet snake come after me.

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I enjoyed that post I don't agree that pit bulls are scary in general, but I love the last sentence... :)

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

Got this quote from that thread...




I enjoyed that post I don't agree that pit bulls are scary in general, but I love the last sentence... :)

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The picture I got in my head of a guy in '80s jogging shorts and a headband quickly picking up the pace with a pitbull on his heels is pretty funny. It's funnier when you replace the dog with a king snake. :rofl:

And a mustache! At least for me it was a mustache. lol, and those shin high socks with the red and blue banding, to match his wicked head band. Oh yea, cut off sleeves. ;)

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

The picture I got in my head of a guy in '80s jogging shorts and a headband quickly picking up the pace with a pitbull on his heels is pretty funny. It's funnier when you replace the dog with a king snake. :rofl:

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Exactly... trying to be cool :cool: until.... :O :snake: ahhhhhh!

Wow, this is the funniest thing ive heard in a long time. I think people like this are here for us to laugh at for their lack of self awareness and logic.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

And a mustache! At least for me it was a mustache. lol, and those shin high socks with the red and blue banding, to match his wicked head band. Oh yea, cut off sleeves. ;)

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The socks were definately there under some sweet black and neon blue Reeboks. I didn't picture a 'stache, but now I can't get rid of it.

Jake, you should post a link to this thread on their forum... might be an interesting "worlds colliding" moment. :)

MMMMMMM...in yoda voice Bad things I see if apon this path you travel.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

MMMMMMM...in yoda voice Bad things I see if apon this path you travel.

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Yeah, I think most people over there don't think like the one poster and we've kinda been ripping on that guy here, so...
I did post another response to one of his replies and told him to go talk to a snake breeder to get his mind blown as to the reality about these deadly beasts.

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Originally Posted by ROS777
Corn snakes are harmless, yeah. Pythons are dangerous to people, pets and wild life.

Most pythons are not dangerous to humans or animals. A few species of pythons CAN be a threat, but nowhere near the threat of stray dogs and cats, birds of prey, native crocodile species, etc.

And why would anyone want a dangerous snake for a pet???

Most are not dangerous, but as far as people who do own potentially dangerous snakes, there are several good reasons. Herpetologists own them to study them, breeders own them to breed, and others own them simply because they are amazing creatures that demand respect and appreciation.

And breeding snakes for a living: that conjures up a nice picture.

I know of several people, including fellow Christians who make a great living by breeding pythons. Although I don't make a living from it, I also breed pythons as one of my more enjoyable hobbies. It does conjure up a nice picture for me, as I get to see people living their dream and spending their days working with animals that they love. On top of doing what they love day to day, some of them are making 6 to 7 figures, while taking some of the most naturally beautifully colored and patterned animals, and combining genes, within the same specie, to make new patterns and color variations that have never been seen before. Some of these amazing animals sell for over $30,000 each. That's a pretty nice picture.

Hey, sorry to tread on your toes. I'm not a big fan of snakes, although the harmless ones are helpful for getting rid of rodents.

I think you would have a completely different point of view if you were to do a little reading about snakes, or even talk to or meet with a ball python breeder, or even a Burmese or reticulated python breeder. While every venomous animal and insect should be avoided, venomous snakes are timid and would much rather retreat than attack a person, and they all have their place on God's Earth. Pythons and boas however are only a fraction of the threat to humans, animals or the environment that domesticated dogs are. I too would be way more concerned about my neighbor having a Rottweiler than a 20' python.

If you'd like to have a conversation or see first hand, I can probably find a breeder in your area who would love to teach one more person how gentle and graceful snakes really are. LOGS.

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I still don't know what LOGS means, but it seamed appropriate to throw in there nonetheless?

well I got to respond here was my responce

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I've always wondered what the motivation is behind keeping a snake for a"pet".

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Typically the person has had a long time fascination with reptiles in general. Many herpetoculturist like myself will keep more than one species of reptile like geckos, snakes, small monitors ect.

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Usually the snake chosen is a poisonous or otherwise dangerous variety such as a python.

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Not so much in the pet trade. There is a lot of legislation in most states regarding the keeping of "hots" or venomous species as well as the giants. Because of this many of the people that maintain these animals are people with years of experience and lot of knowledge about the animals. There are a few irresponsible keepers that do cast a bad light on those that are legit. But normally the snake chosen is a colubrid like a king snake or corn snake or milk snake. Some of the most popular Pythons are Ball/Royal pythons, Carpet, and the arboreal tree pythons. Large bodied boas are next on the list but again these are typically not a first time snake are are kept by people with the understanding and reptile knowledge to properly keep the animal. There are some smaller boidae species like the Rosy, Rubber, and Sand boa that will never get any bigger than most colubrids. With all the different species and different colors and patterns that most species in the pet trade offer it can be much like picking out a living work of art.

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Is it to feel powerful over family, neighbors, enemies. Unless some one is acting like a kenite, or one live in a dangerous ' hood, I see no reason to need that much feeling of power over others.

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There is no feeling of power. Rather there is a feeling of awe at being able to share time with and experience one of Gods most amazing creatures. I can not say there are not a rare few that see large snakes as a power trip but of the thousands of keepers out there you'd be hard to find more than a few.

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People that own a python or some other dangerous snake, do act irresponsible when the snake becomes too expensive or too much to take care of. They just let it go; either flushing it down the toilet or dumping it out in the yard or woods.

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Very true there are a few people that do act inappropriately and this is a sad reality to our hobby. Which is why the reptile community is working so hard to educate new keepers and the general public about what is required to keep these animals to help better fit the right type of pet to the person. The even sadder truth is that every popular animal in the pet trade has an issue with this. Stray dogs and cats out number released reptiles by millions to one every year

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Then it does become dangerous for everyone else and it is very evil.

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Evil is not the right word to use you were right in that if by chance you happen to find yourself wading in the everglades and happen to find yourself facing a 15'+ hungry reticulated python or Burmese python it is dangerous...but not evil. And this is not a threat to the the people next door or even in more that one or two counties in Florida.

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Too many people have dumped pythons and other dangerous snakes in Florida after they've grown bored with them and now they're a threat to everyone that comes in contact with them including our wild life.

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Yes they do and this is irresponsible and fool hearted and 100% shunned by all reptile keepers that truly value our animals and love this hobby. Yes they are impacting our environment which is why we in the reptile community are working with local law makers to find a happy median that allows us to continue with the hobby we so enjoy. While weeding out those people that would use the availability of the pet trade to become repeat offenders.

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Yeah, it's evil to dump a snake out into the environment that can hurt others.

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Again evil is a way to extreme... irresponsible? Yes 100%, harmful to the environment? Yes it can be, in some rare instances could it pose a threat to people sure. But evil no....

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I also believe that this is a gang type activity; keeping a dangerous snake.Why should a Christian be a part of a gang?

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I can not speak as to whether it is a gang activity or not. I would hope that it wasn't.

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How would you feel if the neighbor next door had a snake?

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If the owner is responsible in the snakes care. I would feel wonderful that they are providing for an animal that they decided to take responsibility for its health and well being. If they were poorly educated as to the animals needs or irresponsible with its care I would feel as bad as if it were a dog or cat or any other pet being neglected.

There is a great fear of reptiles but snakes in general. Most of this fear is driven by people with less than little real world experience with these animals and compounded by hollywood's reality that they can turn a profit on promoting and animal as dangerous. I don't think this post will sway your fear or dislike for snakes. I know that fear is a real thing regardless of where it is based. I do however ask that people be allowed to make their decision as to whether they like snakes based on a real world experience not for what they are told by Hollywood and others with less understanding of the animals than someone who could offer proper understanding about them

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

Well geeze OF COURSE I'm part of a gang!

We call ourselves the "Wipe Your Shoes, I Just Washed This Floor" gang and we are very scary! You might be approached on the street by us and handed $20 in case your date gets fresh, or reminded to get your homework done (in a very FIRM SCARY voice mind you). Yep we're mean. Get out of our way, we're on the way to volunteer at the library, take the dog to the vet, pick up 6 kids to haul to hockey practise and we're all hopped up on midol and estrogen suppliments!!!!!!!!!!!

Be afraid...be very afraid! (and get that homework done or they'll be no xbox for you!)

P.S. We all drive very cool minivans that still smell faintly of baby vomit! ohhhhh scary stuff!

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And the scariest thing about us is we're not limited to East or West sides like most gangs, we're NATION wide baby! Fear us!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

well I got to respond here was my responce

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That was so well thought out and written, major respect. :gj:

Agreed. Good job. :gj:

How would I feel if my neighbor had snakes? I would be jumping with joy! There is hardly anyone in my area that I know of that shares my obsession.. hence, the need for online forum use :)

Freaky Frog, Your response was excellent. Predictably though, it fell on deaf ears.The administrator of the site responded to your post basically stating that your post was off topic and he didnt want any more posts of that type to be made.Sadly they choose to be mired in ignorance.