Baby Ball Python Setup

I don't know if i'm understading this correctly or not based on all your posts, but your UTH is sitting on the foil pad you constructed and not touching the foil you have taped onto the bottom of your tank?

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Originally Posted by kira1123

I don't know if i'm understading this correctly or not based on all your posts, but your UTH is sitting on the foil pad you constructed and not touching the foil you have taped onto the bottom of your tank?

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You tape the UTH to the foil pad, with the sticky side facing upwards, towards the tank, then just set the tank on top of it.

Cool, one other thing, where do you keep your thermometer?

you should have two, or an indoor outdoor one. one on the cool side, one on the warm. I keep mine close to the bottom, because that's where the snake is, they don't stay 6 inches up the side of the cage.

I have an acu-rite thermometer/hygometer. The probe stays on the cool side of the tank, but where should i have the console? I have a 10g tank btw.

tape it on the side of the glass all the way at the bottom. i have the same one, i just have the probe on the warm side. just lay the prob on top of the substrate, or else it will read the temp of the cage, not what he or she feels.

I set the unit on the cool side and the probe is under the substrate below where I place the hide on the warm side.

So... stupid question... Does that mean I tape it on the inside? :P

some use velcro. people worrie with tape because your bp might stick itself to it.

So I was playing with the thermometer and I noticed there's a good difference in temperature reading between the unit and the probe.. which is more accurate? i've tested both on the warm side and both on the cool side and there's a difference in temp readings... or is mine just broken?

Not sure i get your question... just keep the unit on the cool side... and run the probe to the heat pad... u may have to move the probe around and find out where your getting the hottest reading... Usually if you have the probe on the ouside of the heat pad youll get a couple degree difference compared to the middle of the pad... just play with it and keep moving it around... I use duct tape to hold the probe in place against the bottom of the tank... Just make sure you only use a very small piece and you get all the sides down as good as possible... Ive evn had to change out some pieces of duct tape bc the piss on the paper and it gets on the tape.

Wow i wish i seen this when i got my first ball 6 yrs ago lol i dropped like $300ish on the first set up. Awsome post should help a bunch of beginers

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what kind of Ball is that, i love the color, i heard Pewter thrown around a few times. I would like to find one of those, hard to find? expensive?
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what kind of Ball is that, i love the color, i heard Pewter thrown around a few times. I would like to find one of those, hard to find? expensive?
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Sorry, just not saw this reply :oops:

That is a pewter, a cross between a pastel and cinnamon. They are becoming easier to find and can be bought from 1k-2k depending on the animal. That was the best one I have seen.

Nice set-up for a nice ball.

anyone else using this setup? And where do you get the $5 rehostat?

will it be warm enough???

the two identical hides stuff is a myth. In the wild a python will never find two identical hides...lol. I have two completely different hides and Diablo uses them both!! But two hides are important. One on the hot side, and one on the cold side.

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the two identical hides stuff is a myth. In the wild a python will never find two identical hides...lol. I have two completely different hides and Diablo uses them both!! But two hides are important. One on the hot side, and one on the cold side.

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In the wild a snake isn't confined the area of a cage either. While its important to look at their behaviors in the wild to model our husbandry on; its critical to realize that they are kept in captivity.

Have you had experience with more than just your one snake? If not is unfair to claim its a myth based an your rationalization of how it is in the "wild".

There are exceptions to every rule; when you start to deal with a higher number of snakes you start to see the variability in personality; husbandry tolerances, etc....

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Originally Posted by JLC

It's been sticky-fied! :D


I think what we really need to focus on teaching people is how to be aware of the needs of their animal and how to watch its behavior to understand if those needs are being met or not...and then to be willing to tweak the environment to make sure those needs are met.

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This is true. The problem I find with posting is that I do not get may answers when I ask a question about behavior. I have no problem with set up and I am sure there are not many who do after a month or so of gleaning the internet. For instance, I have a hard time determining if my BP is roaming because she is hungry, uncomfortable, comfortable or none of the above. A little off the topic but I think it is interesting.

Jimmy

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Originally Posted by Elvyra's Keeper

you should have two, or an indoor outdoor one. one on the cool side, one on the warm. I keep mine close to the bottom, because that's where the snake is, they don't stay 6 inches up the side of the cage.

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You could also try having three:

1. A digital one that sticks to the outside with a probe that goes into the hide on the hot side. ($10 canadian)
2. A digital one that sticks to the outside with a probe that goes into the hide on the cool side. ($10 canadian)
3. A digital one that lies on the floor in the middle that reads temp and humidity. This is to gauge ambient temp. ($25 canadian)

The digital ones with the probe are not the indoor/outdoor. It just takes a reading where the probe goes. I stick it on the outside so that I can see it better.

It may be over kill a little but it is precise.

Jimmy

Wow that is a nice setup for the price.

I don't know if this has been covered but with this setup you could go even cheaper and have it be just as effective such as instead of store bought hides , you can just go to home depot and go to the plant section and get the trays that you put pots in and cut out a section on the side , would probably cost you a dollar for each hide more or less, also news paper you can get for extremely cheap or even free. I'm not a fan of reptibark as it is dusty and could cause respritory problems and is also quite costly.

One thing I do with my newspaper is I cut them out in sections and run them through a paper shredder and make tons of it, its simple effective and next to free.

Also for people that don't have a whole lot of money like me , home made rheostats can be made for about 7-8 bucks each here is a link http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19168 from the corn snake forums on how to make one of these, DdotSpot also shows you how to make one with 2 sockets. I have had no problem with mine.


If this was already covered I apologize, I just don't feel like reading 12 pages of posts =P

Thanks

Brian

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I'm just a brand new snake owner so please forgive me if you think these questions are stupid....lol. I'm just setting up 2 new tanks and they are about the same as your pics on page 1. I have a question though, when you put the aluminum foil on the bottom of the tank did put the UTH under the foil ( I didn't see the UTH attached on the foil pic) and what direction did you place the shiny side of the foil on the bottom of the tank (up or down)?

thanks....

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nice tutorial,.. great ball python :)

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Originally Posted by aj.gladding

the two identical hides stuff is a myth. In the wild a python will never find two identical hides...lol. I have two completely different hides and Diablo uses them both!! But two hides are important. One on the hot side, and one on the cold side.

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I think that in a sense I have four hides... two are identical and then I have the hollowed out log and the bush that it hides under.... Normally avoids the identical hides.

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Originally Posted by Rapture

Purrrdy!

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I second that . Great little environment for your shining beauty. :snake:

that's nice thanks for the help