Average Prices for 2007

That is a gorgeous specimen right there. Can you say WOW! :tongue2: :bow:

Tracy never updates her site lol, im sure that price is very old... Mojave go for $850- $1400 depending on male/ female (females are more), and QUALITY! High quality mojave will be in the $1000-$1400 range. But you can always find deals...
The one in the pic above i wouldnt sell for $1400 but i probably couldnt get more so i will just keep her... oh no pull my arm :)

In such case I guess I'm gonna be going the quality male Mojave route, and have no regrets. I feel a little sheepish now about the whole lesser ordeal. If a lesser and a nice Mojave were sitting side by side I'd chose the lesser, however, I don't feel it's twice the snake given my situation.

But one day... Hopefully in the not incredibly distant future, I will have both in my collection.

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

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But one day... Hopefully in the not incredibly distant future, I will have both in my collection.

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Thats the idea! Why have just one when you can have both! :)

Like i said before and i tell all my customers, dont go broke on animal, get another you like breed it sell some babies and buy the one you love with "snake money" And in your case you ll have kept some mojave females to breed to you lesser... and when you use your lesser instead of your mojave you have the coolest Mojave you can play with! without worring if he'll breed since you have him out all the time... win win!

This is very true. I guess I should be looking around for established breeders who carry mojaves. I noticed neither you nor adam have any for sale, unless there's something I don't know about cooking in the oven available down the road a bit.

btw. joepythons avatar is the mojave that set me down this path. Absolutely beautiful snake.

Ill have to check out his avatar! ... nope none right now. But got some cooking :)

FYI, that light Mojave on Joe pythons avatar was produced by Ed Clark in june 2006. :D

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

This is very true. I guess I should be looking around for established breeders who carry mojaves. I noticed neither you nor adam have any for sale, unless there's something I don't know about cooking in the oven available down the road a bit.

btw. joepythons avatar is the mojave that set me down this path. Absolutely beautiful snake.

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

FYI, that light Mojave on Joe pythons avatar was produced by Ed Clark in june 2006. :D

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See, when I got my crestie I told you, you're a bad influence on me. lol!

Ed, whos Ed? :eek:

Heres the guy your talking about. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1176448049

WOW! That one is AWESOME

Why yes, yes it is.

To quote my favorite redneck comedian.
"I hate you, that's it I'm running away. I AM RUNNING AWAY!!!":taz:

WHY DID I EVER HAVE TO JOIN THIS SERVER AND GO NUTSO OVER SNAKES THAT HAPPEN TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL MARKINGS!!!

Anywho, finals next week and to be able to purchase ANY morph, Ben needs to stay in college. Goodnight lol.

Good luck with your projects!

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Originally Posted by NextWorldExotics

Adam and I are the biggest

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The other day on the phone you told me you were mostly "high volume wholesale" ... The only animals that I ever sell are animals that I produce myself ... big difference buddy. :carrot:

-adam

Is anyone in this forum going to any of the following shows?
Adam, NextWorldExotics, etc...

Repticon Orlando May 19-20
Orlando F.I.R. Expo July 14-15
National Reptile Breeders Expo August 17-19
Repticon Tallahassee September 15-16

Hoping to meet you guys at these shows. So if I buy anything at them you would be able to tell me good buy, good quality or the opposite.

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

Is anyone in this forum going to any of the following shows?
Adam, NextWorldExotics, etc...

Repticon Orlando May 19-20
Orlando F.I.R. Expo July 14-15
National Reptile Breeders Expo August 17-19
Repticon Tallahassee September 15-16

Hoping to meet you guys at these shows. So if I buy anything at them you would be able to tell me good buy, good quality or the opposite.

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I'll be at the Daytona Breeders Expo in August ... I host a big dinner for my friends and customers on Saturday night and you're more than welcome to join us! ... Give me a shout close to the show and I'd be more than happy to help any way that I can.

Thanks.

-adam

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Originally Posted by NextWorldExotics

lol!
Get a Mojave, breed that, sell the babies, keep some girls and then use money you make to buy male Lesser... then breed lesser to mojave girls to get the snake you really want!

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Bingo thats my plans for this girl. I'll get an early 08 male lesser and by 09 BLE..

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.wildmorphs.com/forum/mojo1.JPG

http://www.wildmorphs.com/forum/mojo.JPG

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then breed lesser to mojave girls to get the snake you really want!

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I really want a super lesser (lesser x lesser offspring) ... they are by far much purer white than the lesser x mojave cross and don't have the yellow eye striping or yellow spinal stripe ... super lesser RAWK!!!! :carrot:

-adam

Well, I thought about it alot, and my wee bit of a knee-jerk reaction once I found out how much lesser's go for. However, I think if I can work a deal with Adam I'll stick out a few more months of payments and get my hands on a lesser. I'm not busting the bank at $200 a month, however it's what I've budgeted towards purchasing snakes after factoring in my expenses. If a deal can be struck, then I guess I'm looking at 10+ months of payments, if not then about 6-7 for a Mojave I want. One way or another at some point I'm going to have both in my collection, so it's just a matter of when and how.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I really want a super lesser (lesser x lesser offspring) ... they are by far much purer white than the lesser x mojave cross and don't have the yellow eye striping or yellow spinal stripe ... super lesser RAWK!!!! :carrot:

-adam

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Hey don't bust my bubble. Your making me change my order.. LOL

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I really want a super lesser (lesser x lesser offspring) ... they are by far much purer white than the lesser x mojave cross and don't have the yellow eye striping or yellow spinal stripe ... super lesser RAWK!!!! :carrot:

-adam

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Super Lessers are the best white snake out there (Except for David Coverdale). The rest are all just whitish....

I'm right there with you. Can't afford to spend too much, but they will be in my collection soon enough. I wonder how long it would take to breed and sell and make enough to cover your snake purchase.

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

Well, I thought about it alot, and my wee bit of a knee-jerk reaction once I found out how much lesser's go for. However, I think if I can work a deal with Adam I'll stick out a few more months of payments and get my hands on a lesser. I'm not busting the bank at $200 a month, however it's what I've budgeted towards purchasing snakes after factoring in my expenses. If a deal can be struck, then I guess I'm looking at 10+ months of payments, if not then about 6-7 for a Mojave I want. One way or another at some point I'm going to have both in my collection, so it's just a matter of when and how.

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You won't be sorry sticking it out and getting a great Lesser from Adam. Mojaves are awesome and are great to have in a collection, but an 8 Ball Lesser is the poop! :rockon:

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

I'm right there with you. Can't afford to spend too much, but they will be in my collection soon enough. I wonder how long it would take to breed and sell and make enough to cover your snake purchase.

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Depends but wrong way to look at it. I see it as how long before I put the next morph of my dreams in my collection..And I dream nightly. The money I will make is just gravy I'd keep them all if I could and I still might.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Depends but wrong way to look at it.

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Agreed. Anything can happen when you are dealing with living creatures. Death, failure to breed, etc. Buy the snake because you want an awesome animal in your collection. Don't spend more than you can afford to lose. All the rest is a bonus...

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Agreed. Anything can happen when you are dealing with living creatures. Death, failure to breed, etc. Buy the snake because you want an awesome animal in your collection. Don't spend more than you can afford to lose. All the rest is a bonus...

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I am only doing this to make my collection. If I had it my way I wouldn't breed at all, but it seems to be the only way for me to afford different kinds since I don't have time for a real job until I finish college is breed and sell the babies.

But for me it is all collection. Really don't care about the money would be nice but if i got all my snakes for free I probably wouldnt breed unless i had to because they start sleeping around :laughing:.

I just have a new passion for snakes like many of you already have. Just got mine in August and well it is the best pet I have ever owned (over dog, cat, bird). And just interested in making my passion grow.

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

Is anyone in this forum going to any of the following shows?
Adam, NextWorldExotics, etc...

Repticon Orlando May 19-20
Orlando F.I.R. Expo July 14-15
National Reptile Breeders Expo August 17-19
Repticon Tallahassee September 15-16

Hoping to meet you guys at these shows. So if I buy anything at them you would be able to tell me good buy, good quality or the opposite.

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I'll be at the FIRE Show and the National Reptile breeders Expo...Repticon is eh......just eh....i don't go out of my way to go to those.

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

FYI, that light Mojave on Joe pythons avatar was produced by Ed Clark in june 2006. :D

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I actully aquired that boy last month. Here is an updated pic of that guy:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/DSC04487.jpg

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

Well, I thought about it alot, and my wee bit of a knee-jerk reaction once I found out how much lesser's go for. However, I think if I can work a deal with Adam I'll stick out a few more months of payments and get my hands on a lesser. I'm not busting the bank at $200 a month, however it's what I've budgeted towards purchasing snakes after factoring in my expenses. If a deal can be struck, then I guess I'm looking at 10+ months of payments, if not then about 6-7 for a Mojave I want. One way or another at some point I'm going to have both in my collection, so it's just a matter of when and how.

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I am just curious, how much are you thinking a male lesser is going to cost you this year?

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Originally Posted by pfan151

I am just curious, how much are you thinking a male lesser is going to cost you this year?

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somewhere between 2500-1500 depending on where you get it

People can speculate all they want, but nobody knows what the prices will be quite yet. Just like with Lessers, every year there will be someone trying to tank the market on a certain morphs and there will be plenty of deals to be made. Better that those things are kept in private.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

People can speculate all they want, but nobody knows what the prices will be quite yet. Just like with Lessers, every year there will be someone trying to tank the market on a certain morphs and there will be plenty of deals to be made. Better that those things are kept in private.

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I wonder who's going to "give it back to the people" this year? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

somewhere between 2500-1500 depending on where you get it

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That seems a little high to me. You can get a nice size 06 for that, but I hope they do hold their price like that. I bought my female lesser last year so this year I am looking her mate this year. I need a white snake that is actually white.

This is my female. She's about 1000g now
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...1/DSCN0329.jpg

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I wonder who's going to "give it back to the people" this year? :rolleyes:

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We'll just have to wait and see. They'll probably be whoring it up here by the time Daytona rolls around...

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Agreed. Anything can happen when you are dealing with living creatures. Death, failure to breed, etc. Buy the snake because you want an awesome animal in your collection. Don't spend more than you can afford to lose. All the rest is a bonus...

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Truer words were never spoken !!!

Neil

Before I get to deep into the BP.net world...I have a few generic questions. Will help me understand some of these threads.

When you have a co-dominant breed with a normal you get 50%Normal and 50%the co-dominant. Do the Normals have the gene..so if you breed them again you will get co-dominant variations?

What does DUW mean?

What does 1.3 and 2.10 in the signatures mean?

And what exactly is a clutch?

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

Before I get to deep into the BP.net world...I have a few generic questions. Will help me understand some of these threads.

When you have a co-dominant breed with a normal you get 50%Normal and 50%the co-dominant. Do the Normals have the gene..so if you breed them again you will get co-dominant variations?

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Yes, but each egg has a 50% chance of being the co-dom morph and a 50% chance of being normal, not that you will get 50% - you COULD get all of the morph, or you could get all normals.

The normals are just normals - they do not carry the gene.

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What does DUW mean?

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Dial-up Warning - for those still on Dial up - it lets them know that the post is picture heavy.

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What does 1.3 and 2.10 in the signatures mean?

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Male.Female.Unknown

1.3 - 1 male, 3 females
2.10 - 2 males, 10 females
1.1.1 - 1 male, 1 female, 1 undetermined sex

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And what exactly is a clutch?

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The eggs and/or hatchlings from one mother.

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Originally Posted by pfan151

I am just curious, how much are you thinking a male lesser is going to cost you this year?

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I am preparing myself for between 2k-2.5k But as I stated, I can only make such payments so if that draws the payment plan out for too long than I can get my mojave first and get my hands on a lesser down the road.

thank you rabernet

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Adam and I are the biggest



The other day on the phone you told me you were mostly "high volume wholesale" ... The only animals that I ever sell are animals that I produce myself ... big difference buddy.

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Whats up? You having an ok day? I said something nice about US and you get offended... what gives?

Maybe you should read the hole thing, the line you quoted of mine was intended as a JOKE... I made a coment about US being larger than VPI (everyone knows VPI) You quoted one line of mine, that dosent make sense without the rest...

Here s the entire post i made..
"Theres a bunch of great breeders in Texas you may be able to drive to and check out... VPI , Snake Evolutions etc... (JOKE as in ahahahaha) -> But of course Adam and I are the biggest (well maybe not the biggest but the coolest and thats what counts! :D )"

Oh yeah,
1. I breed (cool stuff!)
2. I Trade/ Buy and resell (when i run out of my own animals or trade off higher end ones for variety. But i only buy from the Big Names for resale!!! Very picky about where my animals come from)
3. Wholesale... yup i do. It helps new breeders and dealers get started.

Whats the difference?

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

Is anyone in this forum going to any of the following shows?
Adam, NextWorldExotics, etc...

Repticon Orlando May 19-20
Orlando F.I.R. Expo July 14-15
National Reptile Breeders Expo August 17-19
Repticon Tallahassee September 15-16

Hoping to meet you guys at these shows. So if I buy anything at them you would be able to tell me good buy, good quality or the opposite.

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I will be at the FIRE show and possibly the Orlando Repticon...

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I really want a super lesser (lesser x lesser offspring) ... they are by far much purer white than the lesser x mojave cross and don't have the yellow eye striping or yellow spinal stripe ... super lesser RAWK!!!! :carrot:

-adam

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So do i, but not everyone can afford to go that route... :)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I wonder who's going to "give it back to the people" this year? :rolleyes:

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You mean stick it to the people lol!

After 4 post in a row, i feel caught up on this one :D

Thats my plans for the best Leucistic, trying to do a male lesser X female mojave this year, but it appears my male lesser is gay and will not breed a female of any kind. :P


Anyone see the J capone snakes that I think Ball Boutique is selling? had a lesser X mojave super up last week and it didn't look bad. ;)

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I really want a super lesser (lesser x lesser offspring) ... they are by far much purer white than the lesser x mojave cross and don't have the yellow eye striping or yellow spinal stripe ... super lesser RAWK!!!! :carrot:

-adam

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I said something nice about US and you get offended?

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US? LOL ... What are we, dating now? Jon, you don't even know me ... I don't think one phone call is enough to consider "US" a couple. :rofl:

On a serious note Jon, the "Adam and I" and "US" stuff is a little much bud.

ROCK ON! :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

US? LOL ... What are we, dating now? Jon, you don't even know me ... I don't think one phone call is enough to consider "US" a couple. :rofl:

On a serious note Jon, the "Adam and I" and "US" stuff is a little much bud.

ROCK ON! :sweeet:

-adam

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I saw your pic you kinda cute... i dont think the fiance would aprove so ill have to pass on the date , thanks for the offer though :D

(Just in case the above IS A JOKE!)


Seriously though, i thought we were a team on here helping people out... thats what YOU wanted when we talked on the phone...

wow adam!!!! :eek: gezzz take a compliment and move on. the guy was joking after all. jon is a nice guy who i consider a pro i would think you would be happy for him to call you a frind. i know i would be

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

US? LOL ... What are we, dating now? Jon, you don't even know me ... I don't think one phone call is enough to consider "US" a couple. :rofl:

On a serious note Jon, the "Adam and I" and "US" stuff is a little much bud.

ROCK ON! :sweeet:

-adam

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Mojaves, Lessers or Butters are all great! Hopefully I'll be adding one of both this year, Jon and Brock expect that phone to start ringing soon...Lololol

Ed can't wait to see what you have this year, make sure you keep us all posted!!