Caramel or Piebald

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Originally Posted by piranhaking

yes, it is an assumption, if you would notice what is actually being said in my post. What i said is that there is no way to know just by looking if one of the two snakes that are being bred are already het for the other trait, meaning the pair possibly being a pied het carmel being bred to a carmel, or a carmel het pied, being bred to a pied.

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I get what you're saying, but it's a pretty safe assumption to make here. A pied het carmel or a carmel het pied, even poss. het would most likely be known, as either one would have about a 2x-3x price tag compared to a reg pied or carmel.

i voted pied... since that's what i'm hoping to create for myself in a few years ;)

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Originally Posted by hgrub

I just read from some thread that said Caramel was introduced in 1996. So why their price is still expensive??? I know they're recessive, but still.....

Can anyone shed some light?
PS: I'll be getting one female Caramel this weekend anyway, can't wait! :D

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Because there aren't that many???

I'm gettin both.

Caramel all the way.

Big fan of the caramels :sunny: :D I think pieds look out of place :confused: oh well I wont be getting one of them but thats IMO :D

Loved the picture of caramel x pied pairing. I was JUST talking about wanting a caramel pied BP last night :)

As for which to get first? I want them both, but I do have a het pied male on the way. So pied is my first choice.

deb

well I voted pieds...but...only 50/50 pieds...if your looking at a high white one then I would go for the caramel...too low white would make me choose caramel....but you get a nice mixture than pied all the way.

i voted pied, cause thats my favorite morph and I eventually will breed to get a pied. But the caramel is a very nice look as well. Pied first, then caramel, but thats just my opinion. :D Have fun either way.

well what are you looking to do? is this a pet or are you looking to breed it out? also are you looking at the market for selling or is your main goal just to produce and have fun? caramels are beautiful snakes with colors that will make you drop your Jaw but they also have a genetic defect of spinal kinking. though i have read that 10%-50% of caramels produced have this there is a chance to produce a clutch that have no kinks, a clutch that has one or a few, and a clutch that has all kinks. dont let this scare you from getting the caramel because its known that when you produce a caramel using 100% het x 100% het that the chance of getting a kinked animal is greatly reduced but when you breed two caramels together thats when the problems arise in greater numbers. i dont know if you knew about this so i thought i would fill you in. pieds dont have a genetic defect and the cool thing about them is each one is diffrent. i love pieds and am working to produce them my self but also with the caramel i will be doing the same thing. i dont believe i will produce any caramels using two homo animals because the risk is not worth it but now some of the crosses that animal makes is INSANE...good luck with your chioce

caramel :carrot:

i sooooo want a caramel! they done stole my heart! lol

PIEDBALL. Caramels are nice, and I love em, but when your showing off to people [most of who dont know morphs] the pied will make them say "WHOA!" like Joey. :):):)

I'd get a pied...no a caramel...no wait...a pied...ummm...a caramel...ohhh probably a pied :)

Gotta be Piebald love em

Hgrub

I believe that Carmel is a city while Caramel is a morph. Caramel and Caramel albino mean the same thing. Just like pied is short for piebald, hypo is short for hypomelanistic, ect.

I voted caramel....pieds are okay...But caramels are super sexy ;)

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Originally Posted by Brandon.O

I voted caramel....pieds are okay...But caramels are super sexy ;)

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yeah baby!!!:cool:

Low white Pieds are one of my favorite, I would go that route

well since it was drug back up after a year i voted Pied and which did u get Lew

OK i voted pied but thats because i want to see a pied/caramel, ill be starting that up next couple years i hope, theses are my 2 fav morphs great poll!!!!!!

Two completely different looks, but I like the Piebald