Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
I wonder what would happen if both the blue eyed and black eyed trait showed up in the same animal....(aka. a homozygous blue eyed lucy AND a homozygous black eyed lucy all rolled into one animal).....what color would it's eyes be?
I bet it the eyes would be HOT PINK :cool:
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
also....if you had a homozygous BEL and homozygous albino trait represented in the same animal...what color would its eyes be?
....a solid white ball with red glowing eyes would be smokin!!!!
...or a solid white snake with white eyes!!! That would be creepy, but I would love it ;)
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
also....if you had a homozygous BEL and homozygous albino trait represented in the same animal...what color would its eyes be?
....a solid white ball with red glowing eyes would be smokin!!!!
...or a solid white snake with white eyes!!! That would be creepy, but I would love it ;)
Cool idea!
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
...or a solid white snake with white eyes!!! That would be creepy, but I would love it ;)
Creepy maybe, but man it would sure look pretty crazy! I'd keep one!
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What does everyone think about the ivory? personally I consider them part of the Leucistic group too but from a completely different line. (What color are the ivories eyes anyway???) I know that ivory crossed with one of the BlueEL group does not produce a white snake, but I gotta wonder what a double homozygous Ivory/Lesser would look like? Would it just be totally white? Or would it have some slight pattern to it? What about crossing it with a fire?
Mark
BTW thank you for bringing this thread back.
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by MarkS
What does everyone think about the ivory? personally I consider them part of the Leucistic group too but from a completely different line. (What color are the ivories eyes anyway???) I know that ivory crossed with one of the BlueEL group does not produce a white snake, but I gotta wonder what a double homozygous Ivory/Lesser would look like? Would it just be totally white? Or would it have some slight pattern to it? What about crossing it with a fire?
Mark
BTW thank you for bringing this thread back.
Ivories have black eyes, but I wouldn't say that they are as solid black as the super fires ... at first I didn't care for them, but over time as I saw how variable they can be, I quickly started strengthening my ivory projects ... as adults, some of them can carry a lot of yellow so I think it's important to get your YB stock from a line know for producing high white adults.
-adam
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I produced my Ivories last year by breeding yellow bellies together and they have dark ruby red eyes! :) https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...maleivory7.JPG
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by ECLARK
I produced my Ivories last year by breeding yellow bellies together and they have dark ruby red eyes! :)
Nice!!! ... Ed, you're too modest dude ... small time hobbyist my foot ... how many people in the world produced ivories last year? 20? maybe? ... and you're one of them ... that kicks ace!! ... You're a baller for sure! ... Strong work!!! :sweeet:
How many ivories did you end up with in 06?
-adam
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Thats a Beauty Ed. So the eyes ARE kind of like the fires then? Only not as dark? I know the fires are supposed to have that red pupil, sounds like the Ivories do too? Has anyone crossed Ivories and fires yet? I've actually got my male yellow belly breeding this year, but he's still pretty small. Hopefully I'll get some females out of it and I'll be able to join you in about 3 years..... :D
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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
Nice!!! ... Ed, you're too modest dude ... small time hobbyist my foot ... how many people in the world produced ivories last year? 20? maybe? ... and you're one of them ... that kicks ace!! ... You're a baller for sure! ... Strong work!!! :sweeet:
How many ivories did you end up with in 06?
-adam
I think he hatched like 15...:rolleyes:
I dont think that the Ivory should be considered a lucy. Lots of diffrent colors pop up in an ivory, but not always in a lucy. Wither way they are all kick butt, and will deffanetly be added to my collection in the future!
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by MarkS
Has anyone crossed Ivories and fires yet?
Yes, this make a clean looking YB with hypo qualities. Nice snake but not white ;)
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Hey, is the super butter a leucy? I'm pretty sure that I heard that somewhere but I haven't been able to find pictures or a description. Anyone have a link to one? How does it compare to a lesser x lesser leucy?
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Daniel, If we had that solid white ball with glowing red eyes! as breeders we would be trying to change it into another color with different color eyes! :(
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
also....if you had a homozygous BEL and homozygous albino trait represented in the same animal...what color would its eyes be?
....a solid white ball with red glowing eyes would be smokin!!!!
...or a solid white snake with white eyes!!! That would be creepy, but I would love it ;)
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by ECLARK
Daniel, If we had that solid white ball with glowing red eyes! as breeders we would be trying to change it into another color with different color eyes! :(
LOL.....we have solid white with black and blue eyes......i was suggesting the change to red ;) I still think a very white eye similar to that of some albino boa crosses would look wicked cool on a ball python.....give them that evil edge that these friendly looking creatures need :devilish:
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That boa eye your talking about normally comes out of snow boa breedings and is prevalent in snow boas. What a wicked eye that is!
And that might be a fun side project? breeding for eye color! :)
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Originally Posted by daniel1983
LOL.....we have solid white with black and blue eyes......i was suggesting the change to red ;) I still think a very white eye similar to that of some albino boa crosses would look wicked cool on a ball python.....give them that evil edge that these friendly looking creatures need :devilish:
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by ECLARK
Ed, that thing is flippin amazing! That must have been one of the best days in your life when you hatched those out;) How did you react seeing those little white heads pop out? I dont know if I could contain myself!
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Chris, yes. I was so excited, I sold 2 of them and bought 3 female Bumble Bees. I just like Yellow better than White. HAHAHA :P
And you cant make Lesser Bees with Ivory Balls! :)
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Originally Posted by Uncle Festae
Ed, that thing is flippin amazing! That must have been one of the best days in your life when you hatched those out;) How did you react seeing those little white heads pop out? I dont know if I could contain myself!
Re: Blue or Black Eyed Luescistic(sp?)
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Originally Posted by ECLARK
Chris, yes. I was so excited, I sold 2 of them and bought 3 female Bumble Bees. I just like Yellow better than White. HAHAHA :P
And you cant make Lesser Bees with Ivory Balls! :)
You're a lucky dude ED!! ... I hate to sounds like Brad, but I know if I produced something as rare as ivories I would have taken pictures of those babies in the eggs until my memory card was full and my batteries were dead ... with all the sincerity that I have, I have to ask ... any shots of those bad boys in the egg that you'd care to share? ... I'm sure everyone would agree that an ivory in the egg is not something that you see that often!!!
Either way, keep up the good work buddy!!!!
-adam
