breeding help

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Originally Posted by breeder man

how much do you want for it. also i am looking for some snake from the 50 to 500 dollar range.

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most members here have their snakes as pets... and have no interest in selling them.

i thought you mentioned that you make your own enclosures... i'd love to see a photo of one if you have one available.

the morphs you've already purchased... may i ask how much you are getting them for? any idea what breeder your local store is ordering them from?

for me... the bloodlines of my ball pythons is vital in my decision to breed them. if i don't have the bloodlines, i won't use them for breeding, they would be pets only.

to start a business from unknown sources won't get you too far in the ball python industry. there are some really great breeders out there... and honestly, that's who most people want to purchase their future morphs from.

hope that assists you.
aleesha

im only looking for ball pythons

This is the female.They are a pair and i will only sell the pair for the $1300.These are the only pair in the USa. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...hons/mera1.jpg

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im getting ready to breed i just ordered a piebald a ivory a albino ball and a mojave male and female for each 1

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So you bought BP that are proper weight and ready to go, yet by your questions I have doubt regarding how much you know about Ball Pythons and their care
You getting ready to breed but you have that kind of questions :rofl:

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can you breed with a burm with a ball

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:rolleye2:

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but what other balls should i purchase or if anyone is willing to sale me something let me kno at a reasonable price

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But hey maybe you know more then me, after all you gonna make a hell of a deal there with that het Macaw for $1300:8: :lmao: :rofl:

Anyway I have done researches about ball pythons for many years and I just now decided to get into breeding but I don't plan on doing it to make a quick buck, I know it takes time, commitment, and a lot of work. I just did not wake up one morning thinking I want to make money I'll just breed snakes.

You need to be ready to care for your BP, have proper housing, raise feeders or buy F/T, pay vet bill when necessary etc.

You must know what to expect when breeding, how you go about breeding, how to start the hatchlings. What will you do if the offsprings if they don't sell etc.

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Originally Posted by GA_Ball_Pythons

So you bought BP that are proper weight and ready to go, yet by your questions I have doubt regarding how much you know about Ball Pythons and their care
You getting ready to breed but you have that kind of questions :rofl:

:rolleye2:




But hey maybe you know more then me, after all you gonna make a hell of a deal there with that het Macaw for $1300:8: :lmao: :rofl:

Anyway I have done researches about ball pythons for many years and I just now decided to get into breeding but I don't plan on doing it to make a quick buck, I know it takes time, commitment, and a lot of work. I just did not wake up one morning thinking I want to make money I'll just breed snakes.

You need to be ready to care for your BP, have proper housing, raise feeders or buy F/T, pay vet bill when necessary etc.

You must know what to expect when breeding, how you go about breeding, how to start the hatchlings. What will you do if the offsprings if they don't sell etc.

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Well i think i am going to keep my "special" snakes.Sorry

l0l well i did i am goin to breed my snakes with burm and try to breed them with diff stuff i am an experimenter thats what every1 should do

Methinks I smell an uninhabited bridge somewhere, crying out for its missing occupant.

hey Breeder man you said that you already have a normal. why dont you go with a co dom if morphs are what you are lookin for cause when co-doms are breed to normals the result is wall of whatever the morph is.


as said we do this for the love of our animals :)

thanks,
-Adderly

koo thanks diskjet i thinnk im goin to work on my norm first bcuz i have a male and a female now so i am doin to mix and match those and c what i get and i seen a albino not sure if it was a ball or a burmese python at the awat meet to day but it was goin for 150 do you think it could e a ball bcuz i mean they sold birds and retiles but they didnt know if it was a burmese or a ball should i go back and pick it up and hey i was jus playin about experimenting the the animals i am going to get serious with you guys now just had to have a little fun :sunny:

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Originally Posted by breeder man

koo thanks diskjet i thinnk im goin to work on my norm first bcuz i have a male and a female now so i am doin to mix and match those and c what i get and i seen a albino not sure if it was a ball or a burmese python at the awat meet to day but it was goin for 150 do you think it could e a ball bcuz i mean they sold birds and retiles but they didnt know if it was a burmese or a ball should i go back and pick it up and hey i was jus playin about experimenting the the animals i am going to get serious with you guys now just had to have a little fun :sunny:

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For $150 it was a burm. For $1500, it was a ball python. Besides which, do you REALLY want to buy breeding stock from someone who doesn't even know what it is themselves?

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Originally Posted by breeder man

koo thanks diskjet i thinnk im goin to work on my norm first bcuz i have a male and a female now so i am doin to mix and match those and c what i get and i seen a albino not sure if it was a ball or a burmese python at the awat meet to day but it was goin for 150 do you think it could e a ball bcuz i mean they sold birds and retiles but they didnt know if it was a burmese or a ball should i go back and pick it up and hey i was jus playin about experimenting the the animals i am going to get serious with you guys now just had to have a little fun :sunny:

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Woooe, slow down Bill Ni...No mix matching on snakes, you can if you want dead snakes. Your avoiding some questions, who are you getting the balls from? You gotta realize that your dealing with LIVE ANIMALS, they have feelings and feel pain also, don't make a stupid desition and hurt the snakes


I have a pair of het bummble bees for 5,000 dollars!! Thats the best deal on the internet!

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I was kidding around hear too.

Just so everyone knows i was just messing with this poster when i mentioned i had a pair of ball pythons "het for macaw".Of course there is NO such animal! My reason for messing with this person is simple,he/she should watch his/her language here.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Just so everyone knows i was just messing with this poster when i mentioned i had a pair of ball pythons "het for macaw".Of course there is NO such animal! My reason for messing with this person is simple,he/she should watch his/her language here.

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Did you notice he also wanted to take you up on that deal?

You need to do your research that shows your non-ball python-morph-knowledge-ness-ness. Savy?


I smell blackend redfish...............

joe, i'm curious. how exactly does that help him to take our forum seriously when he's being treated that way?

breeder man, i love the level of assistance people can get here... and how much information is shared. it saddens me to see people make "fun" of this place. i'm not against having fun... but making fun is different IMO.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Did you notice he also wanted to take you up on that deal?

You need to do your research that shows your non-ball python-morph-knowledge-ness-ness. Savy?


I smell blackend redfish...............

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I ask the members here to stop making any rude or such remarks here please.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Just so everyone knows i was just messing with this poster when i mentioned i had a pair of ball pythons "het for macaw".Of course there is NO such animal! My reason for messing with this person is simple,he/she should watch his/her language here.

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I think everyone here gets the joke well almost everyody........ right breeder man?

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Originally Posted by joepythons

I ask the members here to stop making any rude or such remarks here please.

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What did I say?

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

joe, i'm curious. how exactly does that help him to take our forum seriously when he's being treated that way?

breeder man, i love the level of assistance people can get here... and how much information is shared. it saddens me to see people make "fun" of this place. i'm not against having fun... but making fun is different IMO.

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Aleesha,i never made a remark until he/she cursed at another member several posts back.It was corrected to family site freindly content.It was obvious from the start of this thread something was wrong.I never cursed at this person nor anyone else,just had a little "fun" nothing else.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

What did I say?

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I did not mean to quote you sorry lol

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Originally Posted by joepythons

I did not mean to quote you sorry lol

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I thought so.:sabduel:

HEYHEYHEY l0l ok everyone. Its ok we all take this server serious. i mean people can have a little fun sometimes and thats what we were doing. ok i am a breeder though i wasnt playing about that well trying to start. So now to get off on the right step what snakes should i purshase to start snaking breeding i really just want to make simple money and have a lot off fun with snakes i dont want to make this my priority but just as a hobby or something to do on the side. i do currently have one ball python norm male and one norm female and one pastel. what should be my next step to make a profit and also have fun watching a taking care of these snakes.

But yea we all forgive and lets talk business now. Sorry mods for all tha hastle where or i put you through by creating such madness.

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Originally Posted by breeder man

HEYHEYHEY l0l ok everyone. Its ok we all take this server serious. i mean people can have a little fun sometimes and thats what we were doing. ok i am a breeder though i wasnt playing about that well trying to start. So now to get off on the right step what snakes should i purshase to start snaking breeding i really just want to make simple money and have a lot off fun with snakes i dont want to make this my priority but just as a hobby or something to do on the side. i do currently have one ball python norm male and one norm female and one pastel. what should be my next step to make a profit and also have fun watching a taking care of these snakes.

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Well first off if you veiw your snakes as a easy money maker then you will fail majority of the time.I started out with a pair of normal ball pythons and bred them my 7th year of keeping snakes.You need to buy QUALITY snakes and worry about them and making sure EVERYTHING is perfect until they reach breeding ages.Start out as a "hobby" and later on decide how you want to continue.

I want to also Welcome you to the group:rockon: .

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Originally Posted by breeder man

koo thanks diskjet i thinnk im goin to work on my norm first bcuz i have a male and a female now so i am doin to mix and match those and c what i get and i seen a albino not sure if it was a ball or a burmese python at the awat meet to day but it was goin for 150 do you think it could e a ball bcuz i mean they sold birds and retiles but they didnt know if it was a burmese or a ball should i go back and pick it up and hey i was jus playin about experimenting the the animals i am going to get serious with you guys now just had to have a little fun :sunny:

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yeah yo really might not want to purchase a ball from someone who is just selling them but you should get more in depth info. when i purchase animals i make shure records like DOB, feeding, and shed samples. i alos get other inf like on their siblings in the clutch, genetics. some dealers evn go as far a prividing you with a family tree like document

also if the person selling it doesnt know what it is then i really wouldnt buy it

Thanks,
-Adderly

So you want to become a breeder.

http://www.8ballpythons.com/journal/...ngcalendar.htm

Study!!!!! Read this learn it. (Of coarse before you breed you have to master the art of keeping the snakes healthy, and get them up to size and age.) The search options on this site ARE YOUR FRIEND! Use them, Google is also a great place to research.


You stated that you have bein researching ball pythons for about a month, I have bei researching them for 2 years, and have still not learned everything there is to learn about them. Read all the informative threads. There is endless possibilitys. Breeding snakes isn't a quick way to money. Save up and buy young animals, build or buy a rack or 2, ETC. I hope this helps.

I bought my ball from amazon reptiles out in rancho cucamonga area just outisde of l.a and they are a legit place they gave me all the records and i know about all that stuff i have had my norms for a about 1.5 now and i got my pastel about 9 months ago. I believe im ready to start breeding and i understand what you mean buy care for your snakes yes i do that i play with the little jokers as much as i can. I also take my male norm every where i pretty much go hes my pal. But yes i do build and design my own cages thoough do to me taking wood, auto, and arcitect in school. so all my tanks are pretty well custom and unique i have a water fall in one its awsome i will post pics up soon. I am also creating a website soon and i will be selling snakes and giving you info on how to design your own snake home, or you can purchase them from the web all ready prefabed.

Money is not a issue i am a succesful real estate agent and own a trucking business and i manage a company out in long beach i am doing computer networking and security full time. my truck and real estate is on the side and breeding snakes will be my hobby.

How old are your snakes? 2-3 years+ for the female and 1 year+ for males. The female needs to be 1800+Gs and the male needs to be 600+ Gs. And you need to know the temps for breeding , you need an incubator, etc. Snake breeding isn't just a through 2 snakes together and they do the rest, you are involved in alot of things.

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Originally Posted by breeder man

Money is not a issue i am a succesful real estate agent and own a trucking business and i manage a company out in long beach i am doing computer networking and security full time. my truck and real estate is on the side and breeding snakes will be my hobby.

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And your only 21? Wow!

i also understand what to do every month to keep my snakes healty and prepare them for breeding season. thats why i keep asking everyone what snakes would be the best for me to purchase and start trying to breed and get some of the best morphs out there.

im pretty much set from my dad hes just passing it down

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Originally Posted by breeder man

i also understand what to do every month to keep my snakes healty and prepare them for breeding season. thats why i keep asking everyone what snakes would be the best for me to purchase and start trying to breed and get some of the best morphs out there.

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If you are so confedent with yourself then fine, breed I just hope nothing goes wrong.


What morph catches your eye the most? What do you think looks the best? You really need to slow down and really really do alot more research.

im loving the albino and that derma ball how and the hell did that come out they probably are some mad scientist and shot that snake up with some type of drug. l0l but i want unique colors like the all Leucistic ball python uhmmm piebald and the caramel

i have all the heaters and light and everything ready to go i have two holding tanks just in case and i make my snake homes very unique. When i make them i think about how would i want to live if i was a snake.

Shop around for some hets, they are all over!!

do you have any good places on the web to go to

www.8ballpythons.com :D

plenty.

8 Ball Pythons has very high quality animals.

http://www.8ballpythons.com/

NERD is another who has great morphs.

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/

just to name two!

Yes can't go wrong with Adam's or Kara's animals!:carrot:

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Originally Posted by breeder man

i also understand what to do every month to keep my snakes healty and prepare them for breeding season. thats why i keep asking everyone what snakes would be the best for me to purchase and start trying to breed and get some of the best morphs out there.

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and i hope you know that the way you started this thread, with less than readable text, making things up (you started off with different snakes than you say you have now) just to mention two things you did... this does make it kinda hard for the members here to take you seriously and i'm sure many still hesitate to 'chime in' on this thread because of that.

play nice, be honest, ask questions by typing without errors (as a business man i only imagine you must know how to spell correctly) and i'm sure the members here will begin to trust you in time. ;)

That was when i was messing around. I HAVE SAID TOLD EVERYONE THAT I WAS MESSING AROUND EARLIER MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK A PAGE OR TWO AND READ. Im not trying to get on you case or anything but i am just letting you know. Before you open up your mouth to soon and bring something up that has already been killed. But anyways im really trying to morph them myself wouldnt it be cheaper for me to do it like that and get what i want then go out and buy it already morph i mean thats the best part is seeing what will be coming out. Am i not right?

please don't yell at me (as all caps is yelling on the internet). i was just attempting to explain to you why some members may not be taking you seriously. you have to remember... we are like a family. we all know each other and a new face comes in and pulls our legs... and then all of a sudden says... hey it's okay... i was kidding but now i'd like you all to take me seriously.

as to situation of breeding a morph or not. there's a thread where this exact thing was discussed in the last couple of days. feel free to use the search engine... it'll be very helpful for ya. ;)

L0L L0L :sabduel: :sunny: :carrot: :8: :8:

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Originally Posted by breeder man

I bought my ball from amazon reptiles out in rancho cucamonga area just outisde of l.a and they are a legit place they gave me all the records and i know about all that stuff i have had my norms for a about 1.5 now and i got my pastel about 9 months ago. I believe im ready to start breeding and i understand what you mean buy care for your snakes yes i do that i play with the little jokers as much as i can. I also take my male norm every where i pretty much go hes my pal. But yes i do build and design my own cages thoough do to me taking wood, auto, and arcitect in school. so all my tanks are pretty well custom and unique i have a water fall in one its awsome i will post pics up soon. I am also creating a website soon and i will be selling snakes and giving you info on how to design your own snake home, or you can purchase them from the web all ready prefabed.

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hey try to get some pics of them

and also i want to welcome you to the forums :rockon:

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Just so everyone knows i was just messing with this poster when i mentioned i had a pair of ball pythons "het for macaw".Of course there is NO such animal!

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Awwww nutz!!!

I was hoping the fabled return of Quetzalcoatl was at hand :bow: :bow: :bow:

(heres a link for the terminally bewildered; )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl


**wanders off to sacrifice a chicken to the great god L' unch **


dr del

Wow this post blew up since I was last here. Please don't thake any thing I am about to say as attack. Breederman please excuse me for bringing up previous posts but...I am not really sure why you would tell people that your getting animals your not or that you have animals you don't even in playing. May I make a kind suggestion? I will give you the benefit of the doubt that the businesses that your dad past down to you are legit and that you were not playing. It seems that being a man with all that going you'd be a very busy. I care deeply for my snakes and for there offspring I do this as a hobby and it consumes most of my free time. If you are going to under take this please be ready to devote hours cleaning and feeding and weighing and cleaning and cleaning and handling and looking over the animals every week. Two snakes are a breeze to care for 10 - 800 that take time and more time. I understand the joy of morphs and the want to have the all for God sakes I want them all I go to the breeders sights and shops and just drool and people tell me I have great animals and like to come by and see them. However breeding is not the best way to go about getting the morphs you want there are breeder that'll work with you to put the morph of your dreams in you home. Please understand that no one here is personally attacking you with his or her comments. Everyone here just loves this animal so much that when talk of breeding a ball to a burm for experimenting purposes comes up we cringe much like you would to hear of some one trying to breed a Great Dane to a Wiener dog. We are here to answer any of your questions so please understand that when guys like Ed Clark or Joe Comple or Judy or Adam try and point you in the right direction. These people have been keeping and breeding snakes since you were pooping in diapers they know their stuff. Good luck with all your future projects and I hope this helps

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Wow this post blew up since I was last here. Please don't thake any thing I am about to say as attack. Breederman please excuse me for bringing up previous posts but...I am not really sure why you would tell people that your getting animals your not or that you have animals you don't even in playing. May I make a kind suggestion? I will give you the benefit of the doubt that the businesses that your dad past down to you are legit and that you were not playing. It seems that being a man with all that going you'd be a very busy. I care deeply for my snakes and for there offspring I do this as a hobby and it consumes most of my free time. If you are going to under take this please be ready to devote hours cleaning and feeding and weighing and cleaning and cleaning and handling and looking over the animals every week. Two snakes are a breeze to care for 10 - 800 that take time and more time. I understand the joy of morphs and the want to have the all for God sakes I want them all I go to the breeders sights and shops and just drool and people tell me I have great animals and like to come by and see them. However breeding is not the best way to go about getting the morphs you want there are breeder that'll work with you to put the morph of your dreams in you home. Please understand that no one here is personally attacking you with his or her comments. Everyone here just loves this animal so much that when talk of breeding a ball to a burm for experimenting purposes comes up we cringe much like you would to hear of some one trying to breed a Great Dane to a Wiener dog. We are here to answer any of your questions so please understand that when guys like Ed Clark or Joe Comple or Judy or Adam try and point you in the right direction. These people have been keeping and breeding snakes since you were pooping in diapers they know their stuff. Good luck with all your future projects and I hope this helps

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Great post ,Ed.!:carrot:

great post but i still am going to breed i will pay someone to watch and clean i am going to sit back and enjoy. :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :taz: :taz: :salute: :salute:

I think that you guys think that im going to be a super breeder no i amd going to buy 5 or so snakes not including the ones i have now and breed them i am not going to buy room and rooms full of snakes 10 snakes at the most to breed then when the littles one come alive i will sell those or depending on what i get mix and match. i know this is going to take a few years i know im not going to have babies over night so l0000sin up chief sit back and enjoy this forum. We all love our animals you guys think i am a animal abuse if you look back in past post. i said i take my snakes pretty much every where i go there like my pals because i am into fashion and a albino is a good thing to have sitting around my neck while i am dressed.

You wouldn't be related to Joe Capone by any chance? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by breeder man

great post but i still am going to breed i will pay someone to watch and clean i am going to sit back and enjoy.

i am into fashion and a albino is a good thing to have sitting around my neck while i am dressed.

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