Den site destroyed - all snakes killed

I went over every inch of their yard and found nothing except chopped up parts of older garter snake kills.


I was lifting everything, looking in every hole, going thru the stone walls, etc. I looked everywhere and could not find one living snake there.

Hopefully with the cooler weather coming now, they will not see anymore snakes.

I did get a promise that they would not kill any more snakes and would call me first.

No matter what I said, they have their minds made up that snakes are no good. No matter how many times I tried to convince them that snakes do not stalk people and that these snakes do not spit poison, they did not believe me. I almost lost my temper but held back when they started talking about how dangerous hognose snakes are or when they gave me the graphic details of the snake they doused with gasoline and lit on fire. They thought it was hysterical that the flaming snake took off and they could see the fire in the stome wall where the snake fled. Too bad he didn't bolt into their house. That would have made them think twice about pulling a stunt like that again.
Their kid is just as bad as them but I blame it on the parents. Kids learn what their parents teach. My kids know to respect and not fear snakes and they can ID every native snake we see in the wild. My kids learned this from me just like their kid learned to hate and fear snakes from them.

Hopefully they will keep their promise and not randomly kill them anymore.

ignorance breeds ignorance and it sux that it has to be that way.

Steve,its a shame people are to ignorant to listen to the truth:mad: .Whatever you do keep your head about yourself they will get there just deserts down the line when its judgment time;) .

I am just curious how old these people are like age range???

It sucks Joe. People are so stupid sometimes.

I got a call to get a snake when I was on the phone with you once (btw that killer turned out to be friggin worm snake - oooh scary LOL).
Why couldn't these people just call or walk down a few houses? They have my number and know what house is mine.
They know their neighbor will remove them but they kill them instead.
One of these days they are going to try and kill a copperhead, miss, get tagged, and end up in the ER.
I know they cannot ID a copperhead since the pieces of garter snake I found were what they called a copperhead. Not even remotely close in pattern or color with a garter and a copperhead.:mad:

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Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

I am just curious how old these people are like age range???

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The girl is 8 years old (same grade as my daughter), the father is about 50, and the mother is about 45.

Worm snake?! wow you don't come across many of those in good ol CT, you seem to be in a herp hotspot, a den down the road, worm snakes, y don't you offer to move into their house!LOL


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It sucks Joe. People are so stupid sometimes.

I got a call to get a snake when I was on the phone with you once (btw that killer turned out to be friggin worm snake - oooh scary LOL).
Why couldn't these people just call or walk down a few houses? They have my number and know what house is mine.
They know their neighbor will remove them but they kill them instead.
One of these days they are going to try and kill a copperhead, miss, get tagged, and end up in the ER.
I know they cannot ID a copperhead since the pieces of garter snake I found were what they called a copperhead. Not even remotely close in pattern or color with a garter and a copperhead.:mad:

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Yea i remember that RESCUE lol.Hey we have the same here,we have watermoccasins(spelling) around a some of the lakes we fish.Long story short i get into a detailed discussion numerous times a year with people who do not beleive we have them here:rolleyes: .I recently stopped trying to inform these people and just mind my own bussiness now.I look at it this way WE know what they are and leave them alone to live in peace.People are just to lazy or ignorant or even both to use some common sense anymore:mad: .Hey do you have any skunks in your area maybe they will think its a kitty cat and mess with it :P .

I know i may get beaten to a pulp for this, so i know it isn't the case for everyone so i don't mean to offend anyone here by any means.

I feel like people from that generationish have strong stigmas about snakes (i am not saying everyone i repeat not everyone!!!)
For instance my father hates snakes (im amazed he ever let me get one to begin with) he told me about days where he chopped up snakes, until i began throwing myself infront of the shovel, now he just leaves them alone and says hey Mike i saw a snake over there.... uhh you better move it before i do. I know he is just kidding, i think i have gotten him to respect them, it only took around 10 years to accomplish it. And he would say that it isn't becaus ehe is scared of them but because he flat out didn't like em.

Now my grandparents are a whole nother level!!!!

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Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

I know i may get beaten to a pulp for this, so i know it isn't the case for everyone so i don't mean to offend anyone here by any means.

I feel like people from that generationish have strong stigmas about snakes (i am not saying everyone i repeat not everyone!!!)
For instance my father hates snakes (im amazed he ever let me get one to begin with) he told me about days where he chopped up snakes, until i began throwing myself infront of the shovel, now he just leaves them alone and says hey Mike i saw a snake over there.... uhh you better move it before i do. I know he is just kidding, i think i have gotten him to respect them, it only took around 10 years to accomplish it. And he would say that it isn't becaus ehe is scared of them but because he flat out didn't like em.

Now my grandparents are a whole nother level!!!!

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Well just incase :fishslap: :fishslap: :fishslap: lol.Yea i find most never had anyone show them anything differant as far as snakes are concerned.We live in a village of only 5500 people and i think everyone knows they can call me if they have a snake that needs to be removed:D .Maybe someday soon no one will misunderstand the wild life:confused:

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Worm snake?! wow you don't come across many of those in good ol CT, you seem to be in a herp hotspot, a den down the road, worm snakes, y don't you offer to move into their house!LOL
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Man, worm snakes are all over the place. I can find them EVERY day. My daughter found one today in the garden just by turning over a rock. They are everywhere.

Check out this little catch and release from my yard.
Storeria dekayi.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...rownsnake1.jpg

I would love to get my hands on a worm snake for a quick steve irwin moment and some pictures. As far as the S. dekayi, i love em!

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I would love to get my hands on a worm snake for a quick steve irwin moment and some pictures. As far as the S. dekayi, i love em!

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Come on down. It'll take all of 5 minutes to find one. Just watch out for that "sharp" tail on them. LOL.
I was surpised they were still around today. It's getting a bit chilly.

O man im not commin home from IL until the 10th of oct. other wise i would take you up on that. DId you contact any of those people i from the two groups in CT?? Especially if it is an active den-sit i think those guys should know about it, one is a Curator at Yale Peabody and loves to compare historic data sites to recent sites, such as an active den or a highly productive vernal pool.


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Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

I feel like people from that generationish have strong stigmas about snakes

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it has to do alot with how they were rasied religiously the snake symblizes the devil in the garden of edan.

O yea i understand most views of anything are influenced by how your raised (nature vs nurture) but it is interesting how most of the people raised in one generation or another share certain stigmas towards various subjects


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