Big Scare! (blood python pics)

Easy, no need to be so derogatory.

all bloods are not as nasty as their reputation suggests and alot of the time they will just hiss and false strike. Either way you will find out pretty soon what her temperment is like.

The good thing is they are good feeders normally but they are certainly not forgiving if you get their set up wrong.

plus they need a bit more floor space than Balls and especially as an adult that can grow over 6ft in length and weigh in excess of 30+Ibs if you want to see pics of an adult (although still not fully grown) try this link here ( blood pics ) to a thread I started a while back I posted a fair few pics of mine.

I love bloods I think they are a challenging large snake in a smaller package but they are certainly not a beginner snake in most cases.

best of luck and feel free to ask any questions about them to help you along their are a few blood owners as well as myself who will be happy to help.;)

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

She looks great. Too bad the babies will be nasty mutts.....

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Not all bloods are killers.I have had a full grown adult that was as calm as my corn snakes.I have also had babies that would of loved to take my head off :P :P .They are not considered mutts they are hybrids;) .

HeHeHe snakey you might be recieving a stream of PM's from me in the near future then. I love her to death and I definitely want to keep her aside from the fact Im new to snakes (new as of 1 week ago). I will take any advice and keep you and other blood lovers constantly updated so I'm sure she is taken care of. Today after work I will be going to Mr Petman, Lowes and walmart for a series of items needed to build her tube tonight. So around 7-9pm I will be posting pics of it and asking for new ideas and tips and tricks to keep her happy. BTW your bloods are b-e-a-utiful!

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Originally Posted by Kilo

HeHeHe snakey you might be recieving a stream of PM's from me in the near future then. I love her to death and I definitely want to keep her aside from the fact Im new to snakes (new as of 1 week ago). I will take any advice and keep you and other blood lovers constantly updated so I'm sure she is taken care of. Today after work I will be going to Mr Petman, Lowes and walmart for a series of items needed to build her tube tonight. So around 7-9pm I will be posting pics of it and asking for new ideas and tips and tricks to keep her happy. BTW your bloods are b-e-a-utiful!

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yeah feel free I am happy to help and I look forward to more pics :)

the nerd care sheet is a good one and you can find it on here as well make sure you read that it offers sound advice on what conditions you need to maintain.

your best bet is to keep it simple in all aspects , get the right equipment ( digital temp and humidity gauge ) heating requirements there are many on offer , substrate ( I use newspaper for all my snakes ) that holds humidity well , they need a good size water dish for basking in they will often soak for long periods at times.

I feed frozen thawed I dont know what method you plan on using but make sure you understand the risks whatever method. They will eat and eat and eat so be careful not to overfeed.

if you just got it dont fidget too much with it let it settle in for at least a week before handling etc so its especially important to get the set up in the tank right 1st , warm end basking spot of 88~90F . Make sure you have a hide in each end of the tank.

here is the link to the Nerd care sheet

I have read through the NERD's care sheet about 3 times now... to make sure im obtaining all of the needed info. I will swich her water bowl with my bp's bowl it's perfect for her. I also read on the NERD's caresheet I can keep the entire tube an ambient 80-84 temp and 50-60 hum. and that young bloods are quite happy with that. Providing that the room tempature (my bedroom) does not (sp)fluctuate. Im going to use newspaper for substrate (I thought that like to bury themselves). Also I want to make a humid hide that I will place in the middle of the tube. The moss that i need... do they refer to it as any other name that the big S word...?

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Originally Posted by joepythons

They are not considered mutts they are hybrids;) .

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Ya, I consider most any hybrid reptile a MUTT.

I think we may have picked up on that ;)

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Originally Posted by Kilo

The moss that i need... do they refer to it as any other name that the big S word...?

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Sphagnum moss :sweeet: . Oh, and it's tub not tube ;) .

LOL in my mind i keep saying tube (toob) but im picturing a tub. I saw some sort of moss at Mr petman for frogs or something? Will that do (it might have been Sphagnum moss)? and what is the prodecure to making the moss moist. Also - will medium granite hide with this moss serve as a hum. hide?

Nice looking blood you got there! :sweeet:



Back to the depths I go.....:ninja:

I don't know about moss. I use aspen and it's not that hard to keep the humidity up. Actually, sometimes I have trouble with getting the humidity down!!! LOL.

Just get a spray bottle and mist the tub whenever the humidity goes down. For a humid hide, I use a little Glad food tub that has moist paper towels under it.

Hey, where'd you come from, Steel! Long time, no-see :)

And no, people, keeping snakes in tubes is not a good idea! ::pictures some newbie going out to buy an inflatable inner tube... ::

My trouble is that I don't want to make his humid hide... TO HUMID! Know what I'm saying? I guess I could use granite hides for her normal hides and use a smaller rubbermaid for her humid hide with either moss or paper towels. Again though I don'
t want to make the humid hide to humid!

Well, it doesnt really matter how humid it is (I think), because they usually use it when they are about to shed. You cant tell if the hide is too humid because you can't measure it. Unless you stick an Accurite in there which would take up most of the space. Lol.

Should I keep the humid hide out of the terrarium until she is about to shed?

just an alternative but I never use humid hides. I never have bad sheds as long as I maintain around the 60% , when its shed time I spray more to raise it to around 80% and works fine.

so my point is you dont really need a humid hide if your tank is humid enough these humid hides are best used when the tank is truggling to maintain proper humidity.

just my opinion mind.;)

Nope, just leave it in there all the time, except for when cleaning. Also make sure you change the paper towels frequently.

EDIT: Yeah, you don't have to have a humid hide. BUT, If your snake sheds in alot of small peices, then you should think about one.

How can I produce humidity with newspaper substrate and a tub? Will the combination of a heat pad and a tub do it?

Kyle read my PM I sent you...... And CALL ME

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Originally Posted by Kilo

How can I produce humidity with newspaper substrate and a tub? Will the combination of a heat pad and a tub do it?

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Yup, the tub has less ventilation then a tank. So if you spray, it will stay in longer.

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

She looks great. Too bad the babies will be nasty mutts.....

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Wow, that's probably the rudest and stupidest thing i've read in a while. simply because you do not like hybrids (unlike me, i am totally facinated with them) does not mean you have ANY right to trash someone else's interests. I hope kilo has fantastic babies one day and wouldn't mind making those awesome supers myself one day.

I have to agree, And not just because Kilo is my brother! You have no right to trash someone else's snake like that! Didn't your mother ever tell you If you dont have anything nice to say, DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL That little girl and Kilo's little boy Kole will make beautiful super babies!

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Yup, the tub has less ventilation then a tank. So if you spray, it will stay in longer.

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yep exactly , try without the humid hide 1st, in a tub with paper and heating, misting should do it along with the water dish/bowl.

regarding the opinions of hybrids thats all they are opinions dont get worked up thats the Mods jobs to sort out what is trash or not.

Each to their own but I do tend to think if you dont agree with something then your free to dissagree but often its best to just not say anything rather than make a flippant off the cuff remark. Why comment when its not a question in the thread ? :confused:

regardless lets get back on track eh ..........those bloods are ace snakes ...lol:D

I have to clean mine out shortly as they have crapped all over the place. :eek:

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Originally Posted by snakey68

Each to their own but I do tend to think if you dont agree with something then your free to dissagree but often its best to just not say anything rather than make a flippant off the cuff remark. Why comment when its not a question in the thread ? :confused:

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He started asking questions in the middle of the thread, and it evolved into someone suggesting a tub, then him asking about tubs. :/ Lol.

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Originally Posted by Entropy

Joe I believe he got the term 'Super Ball' from Roussis reptiles who has quite a collection of them. I've honestly never heard them refered to as 'Bloody Balls' so that was new for me, I can understand his confusion.

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To straighten out the confusion

Bloody balls = blood x ball

Super balls = [bloodball cross x bloodball cross]

And bloods/short tail pythons can get rather heavy. I've held a short tail python female that was problaby 30 lbs (and not obese)...obviously, I didn't stand there holding her in my arms for very long. :P

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Originally Posted by Schlyne

To straighten out the confusion

Bloody balls = blood x ball

Super balls = [bloodball cross x bloodball cross]

And bloods/short tail pythons can get rather heavy. I've held a short tail python female that was problaby 30 lbs (and not obese)...obviously, I didn't stand there holding her in my arms for very long. :P

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aw, its like a fat....fat baby! *cuddle*
i still contend that i have never, never heard the term bloody balls and on the guy's sight he even refers to bloodxball as supers.

True. I think they started out as being bloody balls and the name was changed.

Anyway, I think the Bloodball x bloodballs are refered to as F2 Superballs.

I just double checked The Complete Ball Python by Kevin McCurley, and the bloodxball hybrid is refered to as a superball as well.

and the plot thickens :irkd: lol

How about Blalls? Or maybe Buds? :D

how about Royal Bloods ? sounds exotic as well :D

OK EVERYONE! I went to all stores and made my purchases.

I bought:
1 28qt tub w/ lid
1 Acu-Rite Temp/Hum reader
1 lamp dimmer
1 exo-terra medium heat pad
1 small box of sphagnum
1 newspaper

Will this be adequate?

Should I begin to set it up? Or do I need a bigger tub? (next size = 40qt / not tall)

How much news paper do I lay down? How many layers?

Is it ok to mist newsspaper??? sounds retarded?

wouldnt mist the newspaper- who wants to slither on wet ink?

as far as how much- lay down what ever. i just put enough to cover the bottom... like... 5 sheets layers

no please DO MIST the newspaper ...:eek: crikey thats part of how you keep the humidity level up when you need to.

I always mist my newspaper always its a great way to boost the humidity during sheds.

without misting how can I keep humidity?

OH ONE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION:

How many holes do i drill... How many and how big?


EDIT: part of my problem with misting newspaper is how much to mist it!

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Originally Posted by Kilo

without misting how can I keep humidity?

OH ONE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION:

How many holes do i drill... How many and how big?

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see above DO MIST your newspaper ...I can heartily recommend it having bloods myself it works trust me. ;)

regarding holes you need enough to allow ventilation and I would drill approx 5 milimeter holes but I dont use that particular tub so lets see what people that use them say.

My male blood is way too big for any tub now he is in a large 6ft tank.

part of my problem with misting newspaper is knowing how much to mist it and how often... I don't want to have to do it twice a day? (Ofcourse if I had I would!)

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Originally Posted by Kilo

part of my problem with misting newspaper is knowing how much to mist it and how often... I don't want to have to do it twice a day? (Ofcourse if I had I would!)

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ok look at this way .........Monitor your Humidity levels ok ....your looking for normal levels of 50 to 60 % standard (ie) MOST OF THE TIME this is what your aiming for in regular set up without having to mist extra.......when they are in shed mode ....you can raise this to 75 to 80% for short periods.

if your struggling to get that spray at night time before you go to bed till the paper is wet ( not soaked ) again Monitor the humidity level and see what it pans out at.

It may take you a couple of weeks to see what works best if you can get around 50 0r 60% during the day and it sits at that for the most part just spray a little water at night and that should be enough.

You will know how well it is working after the 1st shed. But as I said when you notice a shed coming on spray a little more maybe once in the morning and once at night to raise it higher.

put some not alot of holes in the tub, get everything setup put the thermometer in there and see what the humidity is, if its too high then put some more holes in. Remember you can make more holes but you cant take them away.

WHY the devil would you mist your newspaper! That's what they have to move on! Our humidity is perfect with just crowley's large ceramic bowl! The water evaporates, and we refil it once the water gets less than half way (cleaning it anytime particles look like they're in it and a final scrub every weekend).
Why not mist the sides of the tub or keep a wet sponge on top of the hides (we tried that also with success but found it unnecissary).

Directly wetting their substrate's not a great idea imo unless there's something about bloods scootchin around on wet ground as a part of their natural enviroment. Sounds like a cause for belly rot in the future for me...

Thanks for the warning Marshall against me expressing my oppinion.

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WHY the devil would you mist your newspaper! That's what they have to move on! Our humidity is perfect with just crowley's large ceramic bowl! The water evaporates, and we refil it once the water gets less than half way (cleaning it anytime particles look like they're in it and a final scrub every weekend).
Why not mist the sides of the tub or keep a wet sponge on top of the hides (we tried that also with success but found it unnecissary).

Directly wetting their substrate's not a great idea imo unless there's something about bloods scootchin around on wet ground as a part of their natural enviroment. Sounds like a cause for belly rot in the future for me...

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Bloods naturally come froma damp humid environment there is no problem wetting the newspaper at all IMO Plus it drys pretty quick as it difuses into the tank creating humidity , as I said dont make it soaking wet but spraying it so it is damp is fine.

not to say your methods are wrong BTW they are fine and I dont doubt they work, wetting newpaper also works trust me I know through keeping them;)

peace:sweeet:

snakey please view my other (new) post in reference to my tub set up (pics included)

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Originally Posted by Kilo

snakey please view my other (new) post in reference to my tub set up (pics included)

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already replied buddy:D

I have always known the bloodxball as a super ball, they look sweet is real life!

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Originally Posted by Cubby23

I have always known the bloodxball as a super ball, they look sweet is real life!

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They look cool, but why mess up a snake's bloodline?

I just hope that none of those hybrids ever make it into the wild. Hopefully, the less they're bred, the more money they'll be worth, and in a result they will never be released; then again who re-releases their captive BPs into the wild!

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Originally Posted by bpkid

They look cool, but why mess up a snake's bloodline?

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I'm with you 100% on that hence my rude comment(which I appologize for). I would pay more for a pure blood line ball or blood than I would for a hybrid. A hybrid IMO is worthless and I wish that all of the unnatural ones would be infertile.

you guys started on this thread again to pick on my dreams and wishes? Real mature.

dirsregard im drunk

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Originally Posted by Kilo

you guys started on this thread again to pick on my dreams and wishes? Real mature.

dirsregard im drunk

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Lol. I wasn't picking on your dreams. I wish you all the luck in the world to make bloodxballs.