Looking for snakes in TN

Seems like a lot of things have.

they were curlnig up at first and now there is no curling up going on at all, alan had monty and diablo (his bp) housed together their whole lives while they were with him, they were perfectly happy together. Just because it says they will eat each other is not necessarily true. I know plenty of people with ball pythons housed together and they do breeding and they have experience. And no I am not new to the hobby, did I clearly state that these were my first snakes ever? No, that was an assumption on your part.

they are feeding on a weekly basis they are taken out of their cage and seperated to feed. none are skipping meals.

How long have you had them?

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they were curlnig up at first and now there is no curling up going on at all, alan had monty and diablo (his bp) housed together their whole lives while they were with him, they were perfectly happy together. Just because it says they will eat each other is not necessarily true. I know plenty of people with ball pythons housed together and they do breeding and they have experience. And no I am not new to the hobby, did I clearly state that these were my first snakes ever? No, that was an assumption on your part.

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You're right ... ROCK ON ... what do I know anyway??? :rofl:

-adam

boa i've had about a month and the pythons I got yesterday. I do know how to feed snakes if you are housing them together. Seriously, they are being kept fine. I am fixing to move, my next paycheck is going to 260 gl reptariums for all of them, and you need not worry about my snakes.

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boa i've had about a month and the pythons I got yesterday. I do know how to feed snakes if you are housing them together. Seriously, they are being kept fine. I am fixing to move, my next paycheck is going to 260 gl reptariums for all of them, and you need not worry about my snakes.

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260 gl reptariums!?! Are you serious, dude?

why, are you surprised? Yes I am serious

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my next paycheck is going to 260 gl reptariums for all of them

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Please don't keep ball pythons in reptariums ... they are not designed to hold the heat required to keep ball pythons healthy ... I thought you said you were experienced? ... you should know that right?

-adam

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why, are you surprised? Yes I am serious

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Reptariums are all screen. A TERRIBLE choice for BPs.

They are until I can build the cage. it is going to be made of wood and plexiglass, I do know more than you think, everythnig you have told me I already knew, but because I leave it out in the post you assume I don't, which i can understand. I am making cages for all of them, but this takes time, and already know what is coming, " why didn't you build the cages before you got the snakes". Again another assumtpion that I was going to keep the snakes in there their whole lives.

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They are until I can build the cage. it is going to be made of wood and plexiglass, I do know more than you think, everythnig you have told me I already knew, but because I leave it out in the post you assume I don't, which i can understand. I am making cages for all of them, but this takes time, and already know what is coming, " why didn't you build the cages before you got the snakes". Again another assumtpion that I was going to keep the snakes in there their whole lives.

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Well, that makes sense ... thank you for clarifying. :sweeet: ;)

-adam

are you being sincere or mocking, no i'm not meaning this in a mean way I'm simply asking.

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are you being sincere or mocking, no i'm not meaning this in a mean way I'm simply asking.

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Does it matter? You've basically already told me that you don't care what I have to say in regards to your snakes because you know better ... why would you care what I have to say about anything else?

As sincerely as I can, I wish you all the best with your animals.

-adam

i understand and appreciated the help. the fact is i hate the mistreatment of animals just as much as you guys do. i do respect that. i understand you guys are telling me what is best for the snakes. I have all intentions of seperating them, they are all feeding fine. I am not mistreating them. I hate any kind of mistreatment to any animal. I am building huge cages one at a time obvisouly. And my snakes will not be mistreated or malnurished by anymeans.

And I was not saying I knew better but the fact was that you said they might eat eachother, well the only documentation of this is usually in baby pythons. I have not witnessed any aggression. The minute I feel that there is a major need for them to be seperated right away because of aggression problems I would go broke getting a new cage to house the other in. And i was not trying to say I didn't care I was just stating that Alan's bp's monty and diablo were housed together for there whole lives at his house and they were fine. I wasn't disproving or saying you were lying. I'm sorry that it came off that way, honestly.

Welcome to bp.net :D Do you have any pics???

unfortunatly not yet. I will get some as soon as I can. Thanks for welcoming me I figured after I was attacked and thought of as a horrble snake owner I wouldn't be welcomed. Thanks.

OR you could go to a dollar store and spend $3 getting them two separate enclosures. A 12 qt tub is only $1.50 in most places, and you can easily separate them for their well-being.

Since they came from a pet store and were most likely CH, it would be very wise to take a fecal sample from each snake to the vet so they can test for internal parasites. NO ONE can tell from just looking at a snake that they may or may not have internal parasites. Yours may even have external parasites, but just aren't showing the signs yet(ex: mite eggs on snake, not hatched yet).

Also, big enclosures for tiny babies won't work. They will get stressed from all of the open space(not to mention big wooden enclosures are very hard to heat properly) and will most likely stop eating.

Good luck to you...

wooden enclosuers that have a screen top are not hard to heat if they have the plexiglass on the sides, big reptile breeders use that setup all the time. And thats a good idea about the tubs. I will get some at walmart. I have seen that used. I will just need to take the dremel to the side and a little on the top for ventalation. As much as I saw it done I never considered that. Thanks. :)

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unfortunatly not yet.

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The more pictures the better once you get around to it :sweeet:

hopefully i'll get some pics today

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wooden enclosuers that have a screen top are not hard to heat if they have the plexiglass on the sides, big reptile breeders use that setup all the time. :)

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Which ones? Adam's a pretty big ball python breeder (over 250 of them last count) and I don't believe he has a single wooden enclosure. :confuzd:

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Adam's a pretty big ball python breeder (over 250 of them last count) and I don't believe he has a single wooden enclosure. :confuzd:

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I have spent some time in a wooden enclosure at Adam's :tears:

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Which ones? Adam's a pretty big ball python breeder (over 250 of them last count) and I don't believe he has a single wooden enclosure. :confuzd:

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Thank you Robin, but I'm not even close to "pretty big" ... some of my friends in "the biz" each have collections numbering in the "thousands" and they've all pretty much standardized on Freedom Breeder racks ( www.freedombreeder.com ) ... Wooden cages with plexi is soooo "early 90's" ... ;)

-adam

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Wooden cages with plexi is soooo "early 90's" ... ;)

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https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/TN_rack.JPG

All right stop, Collaborate and listen ...

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Thank you Robin, but I'm not even close to "pretty big" ... some of my friends in "the biz" each have collections numbering in the "thousands" and they've all pretty much standardized on Freedom Breeder racks ( www.freedombreeder.com ) ... Wooden cages with plexi is soooo "early 90's" ... ;)

-adam

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Well, you're big compared to me! ;) How about one of the best? :D