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The Shedding Process

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  • 10-07-2007, 06:14 PM
    brelea79
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Hi, I actully set up till 2 a.m. with her. She started the process before I went to bed and I sat up and watched her. It was really neat to watch! Thanks for the info.
  • 10-16-2007, 04:20 PM
    MiloMorai
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Excellent information!! My first ever BP, Xena is about to have her first shed (well since I've had her, anyway) and she just went into the clearing up stage. Which is why I was looking up more shedding info. Did not know about this stage. Thanks alot for the great post.
  • 11-30-2007, 05:51 PM
    Ehart999
    Re: The Shedding Process
    I agree. This is the first time I've had my snake in his shedding process.
  • 12-05-2007, 10:56 PM
    Ehart999
    Re: The Shedding Process
    So do you feed your snake during the shedding process? And is it ok if he doesn't move around much like normally?
  • 12-05-2007, 11:43 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: The Shedding Process
    I don't feed during shed. But if you want (and your snake wants to eat) go for it. I like to give my snakes a break from feeding and shed time is the perfect time.

    They normally don't move much druing shed time. Don't worry.
  • 12-10-2007, 10:42 PM
    westherocker
    Re: The Shedding Process
    My snake is going through his first shed, I went to change his water tonight and I removed his hide to see how he was doing, and I noticed 2 pieces of skin in there and he got scared and put his head under him. I put his hide back on and changed his water. So i'm not supposed to hold him I take it? I'm glad to see that his eyes are pure black, as they have been cloudy since ive gotten him. Since he didn't shed in one piece, does that mean that he is in critical condition?
  • 12-10-2007, 10:44 PM
    dr del
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Hi,

    Not at all.:)

    As long as he gets all the skin off I wouldn't really pay attention to how many pieces it is in.

    Is his humidity high enough for him to shed ok?


    dr del
  • 12-10-2007, 10:47 PM
    westherocker
    Re: The Shedding Process
    I don't know the exact humidity, but he has been staying on the cool side of the tank in his hide, and its the first time ive ever seen this- all of the fir bark substrate was pushed out of the way and he was just laying on the glass when I removed his hide.
  • 01-01-2008, 02:36 AM
    my python foster
    Re: The Shedding Process
    hey danny, i didnt read all of the process yet, but what should the humidy and temp be for my baby ball when shedding? she is in the stage of eyes tenting blue.
  • 04-22-2008, 11:18 AM
    ThyTempest
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Sorry if it was posted already, but I cant get the pics to show. In firefox, there is just blank space. In internet explorer there is the red x image boxes, but when I click on them or right click to show pic, it doesnt come up.
  • 04-22-2008, 11:29 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: The Shedding Process
    I apologize. I changed servers and the links are no longer valid. If a mod can update the links, I don't mind still hosting the pictures on my host until ya'll get them moved.

    here they go...
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    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed19b.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed20b.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...Shed video.WMV

    Here are the thumbs for all the images:
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ing/shed1c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ing/shed2c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ing/shed3c.JPG
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    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed11c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed12c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed13c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed14c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed15c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed16c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed17c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed18c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed19c.JPG
    http://odatria.com/DanielHillReptile...ng/shed20c.JPG
  • 04-22-2008, 11:34 AM
    ThyTempest
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Cool, thanks for the quick repost.
  • 04-22-2008, 04:25 PM
    dr del
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Hi,

    Thank you for hosting the pictures and giving us updated links - much appreciated. :salute:

    Is the article available online as well?


    dr del
  • 05-04-2008, 05:12 PM
    ZIGZAGsKEEPER
    Re: The Shedding Process
    ok...your info about shedding really gave me a much greater idea on how it works. it may be the answer to one of my questions. I just got a 6 month old ball python and was wondering why its always in its hyde or just curled up in its little tree. i have had it for 3 days now and it only gets active while i handle it. Then i realized that its in its shedding stage. im not exactly sure what part of the process its in now but its definatly shedding. so that may be the reason why its so lazy? and i didnt know that you were not supposed to hold it when its in this stage. but its really mellow calm when its handled.

    AND i fed it yesterday and it ate fine.

    Im new to having a snake, it really facinates me and i would like to learn more. thanx
  • 06-11-2008, 09:02 PM
    redneckdaddy
    Re: The Shedding Process
    OK, I'm a newbie and first timer at posting on a list like this and a newbie at raising a ball python (actually my sons). Anyway, we got a baby ball python several months ago. He (or she) started shedding about 2+ weeks ago. I've read the articles about the shedding process and am beginning to wonder about him. He still has his skin on him and some pieces have fallen off, but very little. I haven't handled him during this nor attempted to feed him. How much longer should I wait on his shedding before I get concerned? How do I tell if maybe he's having problems with it? I've put a good rough piece of wood for him to rub on to get it off. I don't feel that his environment is a problem. I'll try to get a good picture of him and post it here so you can see his "condition" and give me some calming advice.

    Thanks in advance,

    Brian
  • 06-11-2008, 09:11 PM
    dr del
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Hi Brian,

    We actually have a good sticky on dealing with problem sheds as well.

    That should help you get him shed free in no time but if it doesn't just post up a thread and we will try and find some more ideas to help. :gj:


    dr del
  • 09-02-2008, 12:54 PM
    Jojos
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Thank you very much daniel for that very informative post. I still have a question. I read on a comment on "YouTube" that after they shed, their skin is sensitive and we should wait a week before handling them. Is that TRUTH OR FICTION??

    Thank you!:)
  • 11-12-2008, 01:48 PM
    Mr. Greene
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Great article. I'm glad I read this today as my new BP has been hiding away for the past 48 hours and I suspected he might be ready for a shed. The article was a great help. thanks again
  • 02-11-2009, 07:52 PM
    McFarland4600
    Re: The Shedding Process
    how often does a juvi shed
  • 03-07-2009, 07:25 PM
    Duane
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Daniel thanx very much for this great info, i had just got on to ask some questions about the sheding process because my male is just passed the cloudy eye stage so i been keeping a close eye on him, i just noticed him sittin on top of his foam tree bark hide rubbing his nose against it then i noticed him kinda like haveing muscle spasm it freaked me out so i got him out and he was rubbing against my hand like he never had before and pulseing and squeezeing all of which was odd to me so i rushed on here to ask someone if there may be a problem. I them read your post and feel alot more at ease now again thanks for that great info.

    Duane
  • 03-07-2009, 07:28 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Duane View Post
    Daniel thanx very much for this great info, i had just got on to ask some questions about the sheding process because my male is just passed the cloudy eye stage so i been keeping a close eye on him, i just noticed him sittin on top of his foam tree bark hide rubbing his nose against it then i noticed him kinda like haveing muscle spasm it freaked me out so i got him out and he was rubbing against my hand like he never had before and pulseing and squeezeing all of which was odd to me so i rushed on here to ask someone if there may be a problem. I them read your post and feel alot more at ease now again thanks for that great info.

    Duane

    Try to not take him out at all during shed cycle; he'll manage himself, and if he doesn't, try helping him AFTER he's tried himself.
  • 04-07-2009, 04:21 PM
    amaurer2
    Re: The Shedding Process
    This is exactly what I needed. It's like the the Thermas. It keeps things hot or cold. How does it know? LOL!!!!!
  • 04-20-2009, 08:33 AM
    aceboogie09
    Re: The Shedding Process
    my snake is in the process, well was in the process. he just shed last night and i got to witness the end part, pretty cool but yet to a new bp owner eww/weird.lol i'll get used to it, wont i?lol

    thanx for the article helped me a lot

    i was handling him in the stages, didnt really act out or strike or even had signs of him desiering to.

    thanx again.
  • 04-21-2009, 08:25 PM
    puddintain
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Awesome. Oby is in the blue stage now. so much for getting to handle after his week is up. Just my luck. But I am patient
  • 05-04-2009, 02:39 AM
    BuddhaLuv
    Re: The Shedding Process
    I am soooooo grateful for this article/post!!! I am new to owning a BP and after viewing the pics and descriptions my boy is definately in the Blue stage:O) It is really interesting being able to read the stages and to actually see my "Tanveer" go through each one! Thank you soooo much!!!:D
  • 03-12-2010, 06:14 PM
    laa13
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Thanks very much! This article was so helpful... I have just noticed a 'pink belly' in my BP and got really scared. But your post explained everything so clearly.... The photos and video are awesome and really helpful since sometimes it's really difficult to grasp some things about shedding from the description. Thanks a lot! :)
  • 03-21-2010, 02:10 AM
    dembonez
    Re: The Shedding Process
    amazing work thanks! my first ball python is in shed the blue eyes cleared and he was out today like he normally is so im waiting for him to finally loose the skin then his first meal! :banana::banana:


    thanks for the amazing and interesting guide!
  • 05-31-2010, 07:06 PM
    Erratum
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Thanks for this, and all the posts and FAQs like it.

    I've had my girl for almost a month now and she should be shedding soon. I'll know what to look for.
  • 06-07-2010, 12:07 AM
    eblck999
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Thx a lot my snakes eyes are back to normal and things look like they normally do so I can't wait till the skin comes off.:rolleye2::gj:
  • 08-23-2010, 02:34 AM
    xxxLIGERxxx
    Re: The Shedding Process
    are there any pix in this thread? because i cant see any :(
  • 12-23-2010, 11:09 PM
    Shadows Valkyrie
    RE: The Shedding Process
    Thank you for posting. I've been a lover of snakes for quite a few years but have just recently aquired my first, a baby ball python. Mine is shedding right now and its my first experience with it. Again, thank you. Very informative!
  • 01-22-2011, 05:27 AM
    amgbabyboi
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Very informative post for beginners like me. Thanks :)
  • 03-02-2011, 02:58 PM
    NR178
    Thanks this was very helpfull. :gj:
  • 03-24-2011, 03:11 AM
    Dante's_Girl
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Thank you so much for this artical! I am a very new BP owner, and I'm pretty sure my bp is getting ready to shed, and this has been extremely helpful and insightful! :gj:
  • 04-24-2011, 09:51 AM
    Popeye
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Thank you Daniel. Very informative post. :gj:
  • 05-23-2011, 10:51 PM
    Jaxx
    That was an excellent article, very descriptive and informative. I thank you greatly as I am a new owner and am in the blue eye portion of the shed with my baby right now. I feel much better about the whole thing after reading this article. Thanks again.
  • 06-12-2011, 12:35 AM
    Anya
    Oh thank god cloaca bleeding is normal. I was soo worried there for a minute. :tears: Whew. :oops:
  • 09-14-2011, 02:10 PM
    Gibberish
    So I am having a slight problem with Scrambles.
    It has been about 3-4 days since eyes de-clouded, and he still has not shed.
    He is very wrinkly at the moment.

    I figure this is due to a lack of humidity, I try to keep it up by spraying around his hide, making the log and aspen bedding wet, but I am worried it isn't enough.

    Any tips on how to keep humidity at a good level in the tank?
    Is it worth investing in one of those Reptimed foggers?



    Side questions(don't want to clutter up the forums too much :P):
    I currently have Scrambles in a 20gallon tank, at what point should I get a larger one?
    Any recommendations for vets in the Chicago (60035 zip) area?
    Corbins in Buffalo Grove closed, so I have been resorting to using Petsmart, anyone know of a better pet store in the area I could use?
  • 09-29-2011, 02:18 PM
    Miss Beffy
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983 View Post
    The Shedding Process
    By: Daniel Hill

    The process by which a reptile sheds its skin is called ecdysis. This process may last from 9-14 days depending on the reptile. Unlike lizards that generally shed in pieces, snakes will shed in one single piece if provided the proper conditions. A lot of first time ball python owners may panic at the signs of their snake's first shed because they do not know what is happening to their animal. In the following paragraphs, I will cover some of the main shedding topics and present pictures to help keepers get a visual image of what shedding looks like. I also have a short video clip of a yearling female ball python that I caught shedding.

    The process of shedding generally involves several steps. These steps will be outlined in the paragraphs and pictures below. I put times on these steps based on my visual observations and ball python records; however, the start of the shedding process may not be easily recognizable in some instances and the times may vary by a day or two. This is just a general guide and not a standard.

    Day 1-2: Dull skin with a slightly pink belly

    This step of the shedding process can vary from snake to snake. I have a few ball pythons that get the dull appearance but generally never show a pink belly; but, I have others that are dull with a very pink belly. Sometimes the ball python's eyes will become darker or dull in this step. Ball pythons get very shy during shedding time. It is not uncommon for ball pythons to remain in their hide throughout the entire process. The pictures below show the dull appearance and pink belly. Click on the pictures to enlarge.

    This young female ball python is just beginning the shedding process. She appears darker than normal and the dulling can really be seen in her side at the top left of the photo.




    This is the same female from above. Her belly has only a slight pink tint to it but the dull appearance is shown really well on her sides.






    The very beginning of the shedding process may be subtle in some ball pythons. This is the same female as in the above pictures.






    This is another female that is about to enter the next stage. Notice how her eyes have begun to get cloudy. This female also demonstrated a great example of 'pink belly'.






    This is a belly shot of the female above. In both pictures, a wrinkle of skin can be seen around her neck. I have noticed that skin winkles may sometimes show in shedding ball pythons. This may be the result of dehydration, so make sure that clean water and proper humidity are provided.






    Days 3-7: Opaque or In-blue

    This step of the shedding process is the most easily recognizable. The eyes turn a grey/blueish color and the skin becomes very dull and faded. This step is caused by fluid buildup between the new and old skin layers. At this stage of the shedding process, handling or feeding ball pythons is not a recommended action. The opaque eyes may cause the ball python to strike defensively at both you and the prey item. During this time, the ball python is visually impaired and can also become stressed due to excess activity. Imagine yourself being tossed around and having animals running around near you, but you can't see. That could be a stressful situation for any creature. Below are several pictures of my ball pythons in this step of the shedding process. Click on the pictures to enlarge them.



    This is a normal female that has just become opaque. Her eyes are slightly blue and she is developing the faded appearance.



    This is the same female in the pictue above.






    This is another female that was angry with me for opening her enclosure. I was changing her water, but the movement around her caused her to get very defensive. She actually struck at me several times. This is one of the reasons that ball pythons should not be handled at this time.






    The same female as in the picture before. Like most ball pythons during shed, she is comforted by her hide and will remain there throughout the process.






    This is my het pied male in his opaque stage. He usually has a very strong color to him but it is very dull in this stage.






    This is a belly shot of the het pied male. His belly has a very pinkish look to it and the black pattern on the side of his belly appears to be blue. Again, I do not recommend handling during shed. I had to take him out because I tipped his water bowl over when I was filling it up (he struck at me and I bumped the side of the tub...LOL).






    Day 7-10: Clearing up

    During this stage of the shedding process, the opaqueness of the eyes clears up and the ball python is preparing to shed. The body will clear up slightly but may keep a dull appearance. At this point, it may be hard to recognize that your ball python is in shed. They generally look like they normally do, but slightly darker. I have never taken pictures of this step because it is not drastically different than normal. I will take some pics when a few of my girls get there this week.

    Day 10-12: Getting rid of the old skin

    This is the final stage of the shedding process. The 'sloughing' of the skin is generally a very quick process and it may take a new keeper a while before they witness the act. During this step, the ball python will rub its nose against the enclosure (or something in the enclosure) to loosen the skin. Once the skin has begun to 'peel off', the ball python will either use things in its environment like a water bowl or hide or simply pass over itself to pull the shed off. This is something that never gets boring to watch in my opinion. Also, if any problems occur with the shed this is generally the point where they become obvious. The pictures and video below show what happens in this process. Click on the pictures to view a larger image.

    This is a yearling female ball python caught in the act of shedding her skin. Notice the color difference between the section already shed and the section left to be shed.






    This is a closeup photo of the ball python above.





    This is a picture showing the during shed and after shed contrast of my normal male ball python.




    This is a 39 second video clip of the female ball python in the above pictures shedding. This clip can help someone that has not witnessed the act of shedding understand what takes place. Click on the link to view the video.




    This thread and clip was awesome! I've been searching the net for find out about my daughter's Ball Python's shedding process. You answered all my questions! Thank you!
  • 10-21-2011, 11:38 AM
    AZ_Equine
    I always assist when I notice my BP's skin ready to come off. He knows my scent as safe but because he can't see well if he doesn't have his skin off of his eyes yet I take my time and handle him gently.
    I soak him in the bathroom sink for about 10 minutes or more. His skin becomes soft from the water and comes off quite easily. I help some but mostly let him use me in his own time.

    It's harder to help with one hand holding the snake and the other holding the camera. I could have helped him more if I had the other hand free. Next time I will have my husband do the video...

    http://youtu.be/MFlV3y4Ra4o
  • 10-21-2011, 07:01 PM
    Bert Specht
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Thank you very much my first bp is going into his first shed and because of this article i understand what he is now going thru
  • 11-10-2011, 07:04 PM
    hut8822
    My ball is going into it`s first shed I just go him not to long ago.He has been hiding all the time and i was starting to worry, but this realy helped out. thanks
  • 12-05-2011, 10:48 AM
    arkansaspythons
    :gj: on photo's and videos takes all the guess work out for the begginers, but no more fun for the experienced getting to hear crazy post about someones snakes eyes or bodys having funny colors.... :(, lol :D
  • 12-06-2011, 05:14 AM
    AZ_Equine
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by arkansaspythons View Post
    :gj: on photo's and videos takes all the guess work out for the begginers, but no more fun for the experienced getting to hear crazy post about someones snakes eyes or bodys having funny colors.... :(, lol :D

    There is no such thing as a "Stupid Question".

    Questions prevent many stupid mistakes
  • 12-06-2011, 12:19 PM
    dr del
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Plus,

    We still get the belly button posts to cheer us up. :D

    I personally love those. :wuv:


    dr del
  • 12-16-2011, 07:04 PM
    magicapple
    new to snakes:)
    Thank you soooooooooooo much. This is awesome i recently bought an almost full grown carpet python from an neighbor, previous to my purchase i knew nothing about snakes. When my snake changed color i thought it was dying...thanks to you I know it is just shedding:)

    Also I am having problems getting my snake to eat, I tried feeding it a full grown frozen but i did not thaw it properly and it regurgitated it, then i tried feeding it a live one but the rat bit it twice and the snake did not want it anymore. When it has finished its shed I will try to feed it another frozen(making sure it is properly thawed this time)...do you think a snake that is use to eating live rats can be switched to frozen?....if so do you have any tips on feeding finicky snakes?
  • 12-19-2011, 03:06 PM
    enchantress62
    Re: The Shedding Process
    It never ceases to amaze me how much I learn reading the stickies. To the OP, thank you. I have only had my bp for a month and it's my first. She has not shed yet, but I see some of the signs that she is entering the process. That is she has become irritable and hides constantly, skin dull, etc... Anyway, I have a couple of questions. Sorry if this has already been asked but I didn't have the time to read all 10 pgs of this post. First, does shedding cause them discomfort like itching, burning, pain, like sunburn symptoms? Second can a bad shed cause fatal problems?
  • 12-19-2011, 04:56 PM
    JLC
    Re: The Shedding Process
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by enchantress62 View Post
    First, does shedding cause them discomfort like itching, burning, pain, like sunburn symptoms? Second can a bad shed cause fatal problems?

    First of all...I don't think anyone could ever say. Snakes are notoriously close-lipped about such matters. :P

    Second...it's conceivable that multiple stuck sheds, encircling the body, left over a very long period of time might eventually cut off enough circulation to cause death. But I've never actually heard of that happening.
  • 12-20-2011, 10:50 PM
    tiffanyannevitale
    Re: The Shedding Process
    I pick my male ball python up and spray him to help him with the shedding process he has never tried to bite me
  • 12-20-2011, 10:54 PM
    tiffanyannevitale
    I've had him for about a year now and he's awesome but don't have a name that's fitting? Suggestions?
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