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Snakes and Stones Pr. 2

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  • 08-30-2025, 08:57 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #533
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_bt9zmn.jpg
    BP = Pastel/Het Gravel or Yellowbelly

    The stone is a piece of Chalcedony from the West Coast, USA (with a piece of local quartzite gravel trapped in it during tumbling).
    Because the stone is so gnarly-I considered breaking it up and tumbling the smaller pieces to get a 'cleaner' end result. I find larger rocks more interesting-so I decided not to...:)
  • 08-30-2025, 03:48 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    For my clutch #10: I had a 38% chance/egg for Pastel/Orange Dream (+Het VPI Ax/+Het OG) and I missed on 5/6 eggs.

    My last egg in that clutch is hatching:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_zvpqxy.jpg
    I see an OD head stamp, I have my fingers crossed it will be Pastel. :evileye:
  • 08-30-2025, 03:52 PM
    Bogertophis
    C'mon, you can do it! :gj:
  • 08-31-2025, 08:46 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    C'mon, you can do it! :gj:

    Awwww no luck! :taz:
    It is an Orange Dream (+Hets interfering with color/patterning)
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...025_vt3umc.jpg
    Breeding scheme: Pastel/Axanthic/Orange Ghost x Pastel/Orange Dream...(13% Chance of Super Pastel OD + 25% Chance of Pastel OD/each egg)
    My Clutch #13 is from the same breeding scheme but a different female Pastel OD, only 4 eggs in that group though...
    I would have liked to have seen at least 1 Pastel OD in my first 6 eggs from Clutch #10.
  • 08-31-2025, 10:46 AM
    Bogertophis
    Frustrating for sure, but hey, that's why you breed snakes, isn't it? :D
  • 09-04-2025, 03:15 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Frustrating for sure, but hey, that's why you breed snakes, isn't it? :D

    Definitely! :)

    Photo #534
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_oydgrs.jpg
    BP = Banana/Pos. Het Hypo.
    Stones are assorted, off-hand I see: Petrified Wood, Brazilian Agate, Iron-Stained Quartz, and Carnelian. :)
  • 09-04-2025, 04:35 PM
    Bogertophis
    Beautiful BP, stones & overall arrangement.
  • 09-05-2025, 10:16 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Beautiful BP, stones & overall arrangement.

    Thanks! :)

    Photo #535
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_z0mqpk.jpg
    BP= Hidden Gene Woma/Lesser/50% Het Hypo (aka Soul Sucker/50% Het Hypo)
    The stone is a larger piece of Salmon Feldspar-heavy granite from my area.

    For some reason my digital camera has issues taking photos of Soul Suckers-I think it tries to do some sort of internal correction and makes it blurry.
    Here is a closeup of the head I managed to take.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_xwgbt3.jpg
    Breeders Notes:
    -My Clutch #11 is next up to hatch, this is the one where half of the eggs died early on (2 out of 4). The remaining two eggs look fine, but it is very possible they could be duds.
    The two remaining eggs are also adjoined to the decaying eggs, but they are not directly below them (liquid drips down)-so I did not bother to cut them loose.

    -I have established my breeding scheme for 2026: 15 males and 55 females.

    -For 2026 I have sixteen fully mature females breeding 1:1 with my Super Blade/Het Clown/Het Lavender Albino male that failed to produce any offspring this year (x12 1:1's).
    I hope I get *something* from him next year...:rolleyes:
  • 09-09-2025, 10:08 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #536
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_gts6ye.jpg
    Ball Python = Pastel/Het VPI Axanthic/Het Orange Ghost
    Stones = Jasp-Agate from Oregon, USA--they actually have a pink hue that the camera did not see.

    Side Note: The two eggs in my Clutch #11 are starting to hatch. I have included a pic below.
    As I mentioned previously: 2 eggs died early on and they are angled so that any excess fluid would drip down--so I had no need to separate them.
    I realize it is not very aesthetic, but I prefer effectiveness over aesthetics.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_fprx0i.jpg
    My cross for Clutch #11 was Leopard/Pastel/Het VPI Axanthic/Het Orange Ghost x Spider/Orange Ghost/Het VPI Axanthic.
    First snake hatching out is definitely a winner! :)
  • 09-10-2025, 12:07 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #537
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_ncw2i1.jpg
    BP = Pastel/Het VPI Axanthic/Het Orange Ghost, assorted stones.

    Note: Due to the level of interest in my Clutch #11 hatchling...I will upload a photo of them when they are out of the egg. :)
  • 09-11-2025, 02:24 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    My first hatchling from clutch #11 has came out.

    Cross: Leopard/Pastel/100% Het VPI Axanthic/100% Het Orange Ghost x Spider/Orange Ghost/100% Het VPI Axanthic
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...l-1_aqzvdn.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...l-3_sgicmo.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...l-2_llwkb6.jpg
    Wow! This doesn't seem right at all. This looks like an Ivory. Grrrrrr...:irkd:
    I checked the egg box and I have confirmed the breed scheme as accurate.

    So....this must mean that both of the parents must be Yellowbelly-which is a bit of a surprise to me as both the parents should have a below 25% probability of YB.
    Unless of course this is not an Ivory, but, it sure looks like one to me...except for that weird ringer mark.

    I know I have a mystery gene floating around in my VPI Axanthic line...It could be I've had Yellowbelly in there for the last 10 years and never proved it out until now. :taz:
  • 09-13-2025, 12:01 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    My second hatchling from Clutch #11 is starting to come out:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_omggwi.jpg
    No No No No No No--This is wrong! :omg:
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_xlrogw.jpg
    Even *IF* the two parents were both Het for Yellowbelly, the chances of getting two Ivories in a row are (1/4*1/4) = 1/16.

    I know I didn't mislabel the clutch because I took photos when I collected the eggs.
    The female was in a 1:1 mating this year and the lone male I used last year was a Pastel/Axanthic/100% Het Orange Ghost.

    There has to be something else going on here...I will have to think about this one. :frustrate
  • 09-15-2025, 11:39 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #538
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_j5dn7f.jpg
    BP = Orange Ghost/Het VPI Axanthic
    Tiger Eye from South Africa-unlike other batches I've tumbled...my latest batch of rough was very unstable and it has taken a lot more effort than expected.
    Fun Fact: Tiger Eye is a type of silicified asbestos in quartz...so don't powder it and breathe it in. :)

    Breeders Note: My second hatchling from Clutch #11 is out of the egg. Prior to first shed-it is entirely white with no defining marks anywhere.
    The first hatchling had a bit of a yellow Ivory stripe, a light ringer, and slight Spider head marks. The second hatchling has no marks-it is just pure white. :crazy:
    I have to assume they are both Ivory. I will use my UV torch on them when they are a bit older and see if any pattern shows. I'm not sure whether to save these two for proof breeding or just vend them.
    Since I had to hold back so many adult females that did not breed this season-my snake collection is at 97% housing capacity and I don't need 2 Ivories at 66% Het VPI Axanthic/100% Het Orange Ghost.
  • 09-15-2025, 12:55 PM
    Bogertophis
    But clearly you love the frustration or you wouldn't be breeding snakes? :D
  • 09-15-2025, 02:03 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    But clearly you love the frustration or you wouldn't be breeding snakes? :D

    I wouldn't say I enjoy frustration. I enjoy a pleasant surprise if it is an upgrade to what I expected. I do not enjoy a surprise if it is a downgrade or an error.

    The two snakes from Clutch #11: What if one of them is a Pastel/Leopard/Spider/VPI Axanthic/Orange Ghost and its pattern is completely obliterated by two unexpected copies of Yellowbelly-so it looks completely white. I find that pretty annoying! :)
  • 09-17-2025, 10:03 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #539
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_cezqnf.jpg
    BP = Pastel/Het VPI Axanthic/Het Piebald/50% Het Orange Ghost/+Probable Yellowbelly :cool:
    Stone is a local piece of granite-y style stone. It took a very high shine, I wish they all did...
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ted_oforgq.jpg

    Breeders Note: My Clutch #12 hatched out. The mother was a Super Lesser (solid-white, blue eyes).
    I had used a UV light on her previously to try and figure out if she was carrying Hidden Gene Woma, but, I saw no patterning or indication...
    She was in-fact carrying the gene and produced several Soul-Suckers from the cross.
  • 09-18-2025, 05:50 AM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    Breeders Note: My Clutch #12 hatched out. The mother was a Super Lesser (solid-white, blue eyes).
    I had used a UV light on her previously to try and figure out if she was carrying Hidden Gene Woma, but, I saw no patterning or indication...
    She was in-fact carrying the gene and produced several Soul-Suckers from the cross.

    And a Soul-Sucker is a good thing?
  • 09-18-2025, 07:27 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homebody View Post
    And a Soul-Sucker is a good thing?

    Lol, I wouldn't say bad. I would say unusual because I used a Pastel/Lavender Albino x Super Lesser/HGW to produce Pastel/Lesser/HGW's (Pastel Soul Suckers/Het for Lav Albino).

    I don't think I've seen a Lavender Albino Soul Sucker yet...while not my intent...gonna run with this one...:)
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ity_spsouu.jpg
  • 09-18-2025, 10:05 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Before the prices on Ebay became ridiculously high-I used to buy peoples rock collections (so that I could tumble them).
    I was rummaging around through an old box of random stuff (mostly petrified wood) one guy had collected and I found a neat quartz crystal in matrix.

    I took the photo below, I thought the image would look prety cool, but I guess it looks nicer in person. :)
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_wfzukj.jpg
    I know Quartz crystals in matrix like this are pretty common in a lot of areas, but I've personally never found one in decent shape.
  • 09-25-2025, 04:07 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #540
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_vu0n2z.jpg
    BP = Lesser/Het Lavender Albino, with a decent sized piece of Montana Agate. :)
  • 09-27-2025, 08:39 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    I need to get my eyes checked, sometimes I see double...:)
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_zk9oq2.jpg
  • 09-29-2025, 12:22 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Twins from the double egg shown in the previous photos.
    Non-identical, and not conjoined (in case you were wondering). :P

    Photo #541
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_o78jy6.jpg
    BP = Lesser/Het Lavender Albino
    Stone = Jasper from the Western USA (not sure where, the seller keeps it a secret--I'd guess Utah).
    The stone is large but also thin...so I was unable to remove all the pits without shattering it. I'm still happy with the end result-so that is all that really matters. :)

    Breeders Note: I have a micro-hatchling (not shown yet) that has taken two meals and then has stopped eating for the last two weeks, this is a bad sign.
    One more week and I will have to start assist/force feeding. I was really hoping I wouldn't have to do that at all this year...:hmm:
  • 09-29-2025, 01:24 PM
    Bogertophis
    Yup, I was wondering if both heads were sharing one body. :D Sorry to hear about your "fussy" micro- good luck!
  • 09-29-2025, 02:59 PM
    Homebody
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    I was also wondering.
  • 10-01-2025, 10:03 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
  • 10-04-2025, 01:45 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #542
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_nillui.jpg
    BP = Orange Dream/Het VPI Axanthic/50 Het Hypo (in shed for photo).
    The stone is a piece of Black Agate from Madagascar (not the easiest to photograph).
    You can see the mirror reflection of the snake in the surface up close. :)

    Breeders Note:
    My Clutch #14 finished hatching. That makes all 14/14 done. I lost 3 eggs total (not bad).
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_rhnutn.jpg
  • 10-05-2025, 02:50 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Snakes and Stones Pr. 2
    Photo #543
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ked_n8bhge.jpg
    BP = 100% Het VPI Axanthic/50% Het Hypo with a chunk of dyed Brazilian Agate.
    I had bought a box of broken Brazilian Agate bookends off Ebay a while back...some of them can be tumbled/polished and cleaned up nicely. :)
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