Rhino-Jack, 100% Kalatoa SD male retic

Mighty fine looking animal!

Not much new to add. I was vending at a reptile show this past weekend and took my little guy with me for some exposure. The vendor I got him from was also at the show and happened to have another Kalatoa sd forsale but this one was a female. We got to talking and the girl he had was a 17 hold back that his supplier decided to let go. The supplier had produced 2 clutches last year so there is a chance that they were clutch mates. The female was just a tiny bit smaller than my male and her color was a lot lighter than his. I was really tempted to get her but with two expensive snake purchases coming in the near future I couldn't justify the purchase. After the show I realized I should have gotten a pic of the two together for comparison.

I let him do a few lapse around the house last night. Crappy cell pic but 4 tiles 12" each is 48".

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I let him do a few lapse around the house last night. Crappy cell pic but 4 tiles 12" each is 48".

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I need to snake proof a room and let Rainbow do the same thing. She gets to crawl around on the couch but letting her just go and play is not possible with my house setup. Looking great though.

Thanks for sharing. How old is he now?

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Thanks for sharing. How old is he now?

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When I bought him back in September I was told he was 6mo at the time. So I think that should put him roughly at 15 months old now.

Just a few outdoor pics.

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The end of his 14 day feeding schedule when he should have been getting fed he went into blue for 2 weeks. So this past weekend after nearly a month he finally got some food after he shed.

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The end of his 14 day feeding schedule when he should have been getting fed he went into blue for 2 weeks. So this past weekend after nearly a month he finally got some food after he shed.

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How big are you expecting him to get? He is a male and Kalatoa SD. My retics don't care if they are in blue or not. They eat and with tenacity. He is looking great though.

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How big are you expecting him to get? He is a male and Kalatoa SD. My retics don't care if they are in blue or not. They eat and with tenacity. He is looking great though.

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Sorry I missed your question, I never got the email notification. I'm hoping he doesn't gain much more length wise and stays under 5'. I would still be happy even if he stayed in the 5'-6' range. I last weighed him a few days ago and he is 490g. I'm not exactly sure what he is supposed to weigh once he is fully grown. He would probably eat in blue but he just stayed in one of his hides for two weeks.

His daily exercise time tonight he made his way off his enclosure stack in the living room and onto the wall of tanks in my den. He caught the attention of one of my adult female corns.

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We've had a change in weather recently. Now instead of his nightly play time and exercise, he has been making his way up to the outside hide on the enclosure and sleeping for several hours. For size reference that is an XL hide on a 2x2 enclosure.

He also has a vet appt next friday to get his nose looked at. Recently it has started to swell. I also found a broken tooth in the side that has some swelling. I haven't found any puss or sign of infection in his mouth but I'd rather not risk it.

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We've had a change in weather recently. Now instead of his nightly play time and exercise, he has been making his way up to the outside hide on the enclosure and sleeping for several hours. For size reference that is an XL hide on a 2x2 enclosure.

He also has a vet appt next friday to get his nose looked at. Recently it has started to swell. I also found a broken tooth in the side that has some swelling. I haven't found any puss or sign of infection in his mouth but I'd rather not risk it.

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Good luck with the vet visit, hope it turns out to be nothing. Can’t believe he’s still that tiny


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He looks great.

Nice size too👍👍😎

He weighed in at 516g at the vet visit. The vet said he has an abscess on the top of his nose from a possible bite or other injury. Jack got left at the vets office so the abscess could get cut opened and drained. I can pick him back up first thing in the morning. One of the vet techs said his nose looked like he was impersonating a hog nose.

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He weighed in at 516g at the vet visit. The vet said he has an abscess on the top of his nose from a possible bite or other injury. Jack got left at the vets office so the abscess could get cut opened and drained. I can pick him back up first thing in the morning. One of the vet techs said his nose looked like he was impersonating a hog nose.

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Best of luck on his recovery. My guess is pushing that caused the abscess. I think it was the same for Phyllis.


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He doesn't really push, very rarely maybe once every two weeks he may window wipe or peck (tap) at the enclosure door for 5 minutes. He also doesn't have damage to the front of his nose from normal pushing. Though about a month ago he did miss his f/t and nailed his water bowl pretty hard so that could be the cause of the injury.

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He doesn't really push, very rarely maybe once every two weeks he may window wipe or peck (tap) at the enclosure door for 5 minutes. He also doesn't have damage to the front of his nose from normal pushing. Though about a month ago he did miss his f/t and nailed his water bowl pretty hard so that could be the cause of the injury.

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Ahhhhh that might do it. He could be pushing late at night too. But I agree that some trauma from nailing his water bowl could be just enough of an injury for an opportunistic bacterial to find a way in to


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The doctor decided to use a local anesthesia on jack instead of knocking him out with a general. I was able to pick him back up a few hours after his appointment/suregery instead of leaving him over night. He seems to be doing good and just sleeping in his hide.

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The doctor decided to use a local anesthesia on jack instead of knocking him out with a general. I was able to pick him back up a few hours after his appointment/suregery instead of leaving him over night. He seems to be doing good and just sleeping in his hide.

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Great news man! Keep us posted


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He has been in blue for over a week now. I think he's just starting to go clear in this pic. Hopefully in a few days I can get some fresh shed pictures.

The swelling in his nose has gone down a lot recently. The vet said it would take a few weeks after surgery for the antibiotic gel that they packed the wound with to dissolve.

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Good to see him doing well!

Good to see him getting better.

He had his follow up vet appointment recently. The stitch he had in his nose dissolved and his body absorbed the antibiotic gel. His face is back to normal now and the vet gave him the all clear.

He got about 2 hours of free roam time last night.


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Nice! Good to hear he's doing well and all healed!

Great job pal, I just recognized I posted at the beginning of this thread saying I wanted one and finally go myself an SD last week:-)

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Great job pal, I just recognized I posted at the beginning of this thread saying I wanted one and finally go myself an SD last week:-)

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Now you need to start shopping for that dwarf burm and coastel carpet. ;)

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Now you need to start shopping for that dwarf burm and coastel carpet. ;)

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No talk of Dwarf Burms! I just got a Dwarf BCC instead. Maybe I am paranoid, but I am concerned about the Lacey Act being reenacted and not having a grandfather clause.

I don't want to take that risk. I would love a Dwarf Burm, but I've got to say, I do love my Boas!

Sorry, not trying to steal the thread, and again, very happy Rhino-Jack is doing well!

That's a pipe dream ATM, the missus would throat punch me if I got another snake lol...

It was a nice and rainy evening here tonight so I went through and cleaned all my mice and asf a day early. Cooked a nice diner then went to clean Jack's water bowl and pick up some of his poo. I forgot I handled mice earlier in the evening and learned a few lessons. First one, is that one of us is faster than the other. Second was that he wasn't happy with a mouth full of substrate and even less happy when said substrate has to get cleaned out of his mouth. Retics will keep you on your toes.

A little stocking stuffer.

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Freshly shed and feeling invincible like he could take on anything. :sabduel:



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That's cute!

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Freshly shed and feeling invincible like he could take on anything. :sabduel:



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If that’s an original He-Man figure, it’s probably worth money! Lol


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Maybe if He-man was still in his unopened packaging but he was well used back when I was a kid.

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Freshly shed and feeling invincible like he could take on anything. :sabduel:



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Love his pattern. That is one thing about retics, they all look great!

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Maybe if He-man was still in his unopened packaging but he was well used back when I was a kid.

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Yeah unfortunately mine were all used as well.


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He's getting near being 2yo. Here he is fat and sleepy a few days after indulging in a weaned rat and a peep. With a full belly he just weighed in at 717g. He's really starting to get that blocky adult head.

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He looks great!

Looks Awesome !!!

I am planning to a pair of pure Kalatoas sometime this year, hopefully.

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He's getting near being 2yo. Here he is fat and sleepy a few days after indulging in a weaned rat and a peep. With a full belly he just weighed in at 717g. He's really starting to get that blocky adult head.

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2years and 717grams?! wow! i can handle that lol.

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I am planning to a pair of pure Kalatoas sometime this year, hopefully.

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what generation are your Kalatoa's and current size?

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what generation are your Kalatoa's and current size?

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Rather - I am hoping to get a pair of pure Kalatoas, later this year. I do not presently have any pure Kalatoas.

In fact all of the SD crosses that I presently have were all born in 2018.

My largest (75% Kalatoa, 12.5% Jampea p/h snow) is about 34-36 inches and weighs about 260 g, and about 11-12 months old.

My female Purple Suntiger is actually 25% Kalatoa(father was 50% Kalatoa) about 30-32 inches, and weighs about 180-200 g, and about 7 months old.

does anyone know where i can get a 100% SD Kalatoa retic?? like any good breeders out there? i've been searching all night and i haven't found anything good.. :(

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does anyone know where i can get a 100% SD Kalatoa retic?? like any good breeders out there? i've been searching all night and i haven't found anything good.. :(

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I’ve got a buddy with eggs incubating. They are in high demand so they’re definitely hard to find right now. Expect to be investing around $1k give or take for pure SD hatchlings from pretty much anyone breeding them


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jmcrook is right, the price has really jumped in the past year or so.

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2years and 717grams?! wow! i can handle that lol.

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I have a female breeder corn snake that is currently 20g more than him.

Someone on another forum asked me about their temperament, so here are a few short handling vids I just took.

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They are in high demand so they’re definitely hard to find right now. Expect to be investing around $1k give or take for pure SD hatchlings from pretty much anyone breeding them

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Well - pure Kalatoas are about $1K each(average price), but other SD localities are more expensive - if you can find them. Pure F1 Kayuadis are usually about $1,500-$2,000 each.

As for breeders who breeding them - Garrett Hartle of Reach Out Reptiles has a waiting list of at least 6 months for his pure Kalatoas. Samson Pruitt of Slither, Inc also has some pure Kalatoas, & pure F1 Kayuadis coming in the next few months.

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Well - pure Kalatoas are about $1K each(average price), but other SD localities are more expensive - if you can find them. Pure F1 Kayuadis are usually about $1,500-$2,000 each.

As for breeders who breeding them - Garrett Hartle of Reach Out Reptiles has a waiting list of at least 6 months for his pure Kalatoas. Samson Pruitt of Slither, Inc also has some pure Kalatoas, & pure F1 Kayuadis coming in the next few months.

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I wouldn’t recommend Samson but I won’t try and derail this thread on that topic... simple google search will tell you all you need to know.


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I don't mind talking about things that need said. When I got my guy before I even knew who Samson was he tried using intimidation tactics to push one of his retics on me and my wife. That doesn't doesn't work with us and we went with someone else. Not long after we found out more details about the man and his criminal record that involved animals. He was recently talked about on the YouTube channel from the ground up.

Well - I get they some people who may not like or trust Samson or any other breeder for what ever reason. But the main point I was going for is there are several breeders of pure SD locality retics out there. Garrett & Samson are just the only breeders that I have talked to, which I am certain are breeding pure SD localities - of at this time.

do u guys know of anyone working w/ the Nicobar Island SD's?


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Well - pure Kalatoas are about $1K each(average price), but other SD localities are more expensive - if you can find them. Pure F1 Kayuadis are usually about $1,500-$2,000 each.

As for breeders who breeding them - Garrett Hartle of Reach Out Reptiles has a waiting list of at least 6 months for his pure Kalatoas. Samson Pruitt of Slither, Inc also has some pure Kalatoas, & pure F1 Kayuadis coming in the next few months.

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is that a reg Burm of Dwarf in your avatar?

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I have a female breeder corn snake that is currently 20g more than him.

Someone on another forum asked me about their temperament, so here are a few short handling vids I just took.

https://youtu.be/1hGtI5ICAM0

https://youtu.be/twZlQgvHBDc

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so calm! do u think he will keep his compsure once he starts "sniffing" out your Lavender SD girl?

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is that a reg Burm of Dwarf in your avatar?

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It is photo of one of the Dwarf Burms(progschai) I got from Bob Clark.

I am thinking about changing my avatar to one of my Kalatoa crosses.