Coffee Bean progression thread

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Oop, sorry. I call everybody 'my guy'. Didn't mean to offend, won't happen again.

Thanks! I can't bother her until she sheds so now I'm just eyeing everybody else's snakes with my mouth watering. I'm dying. help. Lmao.

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no offense taken, i was just unsure if you knew. [emoji4]

i def know that feel, but that's why i have four snakes so i can always handle someone!!! [emoji3]

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

no offense taken, i was just unsure if you knew. [emoji4]

i def know that feel, but that's why i have four snakes so i can always handle someone!!! [emoji3]

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If only I had the space for more snake children! For now I'll just ogle your lil Bean there and Tapioca and lie on the ground lmao.

taking photos for my other thread gave me a chance to handle and weigh her. she was very well behaved! a bit tense, not like other times, but no posturing.

holding her in my palm, i placed my index finger beneath her head every time she raised it, which seemed to help her realize she's not getting the chance to posture.

SHE'S 197g!!! she's going to need a bigger tub quicker than i anticipated! I LOVE HER.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...463ade28b4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...38ee378cd0.jpg

What! No way!! She's officially weighing more than Tappy who is now 164!

Shes growing!!! Such an adorable little monster <3 I still can't get over her little orange "bean" mark.

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Originally Posted by MissterDog

What! No way!! She's officially weighing more than Tappy who is now 164!

Shes growing!!! Such an adorable little monster <3 I still can't get over her little orange "bean" mark.

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wow, i didn't realize!!! but he's not far behind! i hope she's going to be a big girl. [emoji4] as my first female, i can't wait to see her full grown and get bigger than Yellow.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

taking photos for my other thread gave me a chance to handle and weigh her. she was very well behaved! a bit tense, not like other times, but no posturing.

holding her in my palm, i placed my index finger beneath her head every time she raised it, which seemed to help her realize she's not getting the chance to posture.

SHE'S 197g!!! she's going to need a bigger tub quicker than i anticipated! I LOVE HER.https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...463ade28b4.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...38ee378cd0.jpg

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that pix of Beanie sitting in her hide is so cute. :) haha that lil hide would be like a hat for my Super Cinny Shadow. she's like 1,500grams currently.

Gorgeous Girl Continues To Wow Locals

Maybe someday she'll be less terrified of being eaten by the Warm Thing That Feeds. (Does she think ur just trying to fatten her up? lol!)

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Originally Posted by Ax01

that pix of Beanie sitting in her hide is so cute. :) haha that lil hide would be like a hat for my Super Cinny Shadow. she's like 1,500grams currently.

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HAH, that would be funny to see!

the small hides used to look big compared to her; now she's starting to dwarf them. i know i'll miss her bby stage...bites and all. [emoji14]

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Gorgeous Girl Continues To Wow Locals

Maybe someday she'll be less terrified of being eaten by the Warm Thing That Feeds. (Does she think ur just trying to fatten her up? lol!)

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she probably thinks i'm scheming to git 'er!
"i don't know why that warm tree keeps bringing me food and holding me...but it can't be good."

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

wow, i didn't realize!!! but he's not far behind! i hope she's going to be a big girl. [emoji4] as my first female, i can't wait to see her full grown and get bigger than Yellow.

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omg she's NOT my first female what was i thinking?? i'm watching Cubs playoffs i'm not really paying attention!!!

did my morning routine and found this:
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so of course now i'm paranoid that i broke quarantine; i've never seen any of my snakes soak. i did have her out yesterday on my white comforter without noticing anything...idk. she gets fed tonight so i won't be able to check her and her husbandry for a few days.

OR this could be a security issue. she is outgrowing her hides...do i move her to a bigger tub already? i'm going to check out tubs at target today to see what will fit two mediums. also, since Yellow is claiming my other medium hides, i need to order new ones.

maybe i'm overthinking it all. ugh!!!

Maybe she's just chillin :P

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Originally Posted by BallPythonWannaBe

Maybe she's just chillin :P

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i hope so. i have seen her in her water dish before, but not as nicely coiled like she is here. i'll just be keeping a close eye on her for the next week or so, along with my new pied boy too.

Last shed 9/7 and growing fast - sounds to me like she's just ready to go into shed. Timing is right.

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Originally Posted by Kcl

Last shed 9/7 and growing fast - sounds to me like she's just ready to go into shed. Timing is right.

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omgosh i didn't even think about a shed...timing definitely is right. i'll be keeping an eye on her for the next few weeks for signs of shed. thanks for your input!

her first rat (pup) [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]
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Definitely looking good [emoji16]

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Originally Posted by oodaT

Definitely looking good [emoji16]

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can't wait to weigh her after this meal and get size comparison pics. she's growing up so fast! [emoji22]

Out of curiosity, did she shed recently? I know someone mentioned it's been a while.

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Out of curiosity, did she shed recently? I know someone mentioned it's been a while.

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no she hasn't, and i didn't notice any signs (she looked a tad dry) when feeding but i was gone all weekend and didn't really look.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

no she hasn't, and i didn't notice any signs (she looked a tad dry) when feeding but i was gone all weekend and didn't really look.

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hmm, girl likes to keep us in suspense. anyways, im eager to see how much this lovely monster girl weighs as well, keep us posted! lol

Yay Coffee!

The vicious killer! Lol

she is really beautiful!

I wish my little BEL would eat like coffee bean! :tears: lol

my baby's finally in blue [emoji4]

i didn't want to mess with her too much since she was on high alert, so no weigh-in today.

in spite of being in blue she was MUCH more behaved than her last shed: no pot shots or snapping. she was of course nervous, but never looked like she was going to actually strike out. very happy for her.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ef26a5be2d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab7049c1d7.jpg

SUSPENSE BEGONE, FOR THERE BE THE PRELUDE OF SHED!

she's a good girl. <3

She is adorable!

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Originally Posted by Starscream

SUSPENSE BEGONE, FOR THERE BE THE PRELUDE OF SHED!

she's a good girl. <3

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i was so happy to see her attitude change; she'll be my gentle giant in no time.

look at the difference in body language!
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Much calmer. Very Nice snake.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i was so happy to see her attitude change; she'll be my gentle giant in no time.

look at the difference in body language!
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1f680c2a19.jpg

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That stance is just screaming "dont let that finger/hand slip in front of my face" :D

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Originally Posted by oodaT

That stance is just screaming "dont let that finger/hand slip in front of my face" :D

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she nicked me before that first photo [emoji6]

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i was so happy to see her attitude change; she'll be my gentle giant in no time.

look at the difference in body language!
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1f680c2a19.jpg

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WOW she looks HUGE!!

good job gurls!

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Originally Posted by Ax01

WOW she looks HUGE!!

good job gurls!

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i can't believe it either. (,:
i can't wait for her to shed out to weigh her!!! she really is getting big. she can NOT fit in the small hides anymore, and i feel like she's cramped in the 15qt. next tub size up is 32qt and i worry if that's too big a jump, but i'm sure she'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i can't believe it either. (,:
next tub size up is 32qt and i worry if that's too big a jump, but i'm sure she'll be fine.

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I house all my young ball pythons (from approximately 90g to 800g) in 30-31 qt IRIS tubs as their "grow up" enclosures prior to moving them into a final, larger enclosure. Occasionally I will have to add additional clutter for the smaller snakes, but overall, I have had very few issues with this approach.

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Originally Posted by Regius_049

I house all my young ball pythons (from approximately 90g to 800g) in 30-31 qt IRIS tubs as their "grow up" enclosures prior to moving them into a final, larger enclosure. Occasionally I will have to add additional clutter for the smaller snakes, but overall, I have had very few issues with this approach.

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thank you for the reply! that makes me feel better about the switch. i think after she sheds out i'll move her!

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i was so happy to see her attitude change; she'll be my gentle giant in no time.

look at the difference in body language!
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...1f680c2a19.jpg

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@the first image: SHE ATTAC

She looks so much more relaxed in the second picture! Wow! Maze tried to get me twice her first shed, no problems since. That first shed with new people must be super scary! lol. Lil Bean's getting it, though. Maybe she'll become more friendly with time?

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Originally Posted by Starscream

@the first image: SHE ATTAC

She looks so much more relaxed in the second picture! Wow! Maze tried to get me twice her first shed, no problems since. That first shed with new people must be super scary! lol. Lil Bean's getting it, though. Maybe she'll become more friendly with time?

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with time, weight and regular handling. user @zina10 suggested shorter, more frequent handling sessions and they've been working out wonderfully for her. :aww:

Awww she's getting so big!!

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

with time, weight and regular handling. user @zina10 suggested shorter, more frequent handling sessions and they've been working out wonderfully for her. :aww:

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She is BEAUTIFUL !!!

And yes, what a difference in body language. In the first picture she is so tense...second picture, loose and relaxed coils. AWESOME !!

She really does remind me of Arjana. She was the same exact way. Now she rarely even looks worried and no more defensiveness. Some calm down the longer they are handled, some become more frantic to the point of "hysteria", LOL. Short and often did the trick for Arjana.

They can live 40+ years, there is no rush to accomplish anything. Slow and steady does the trick ;) Patience goes a long way with Ball Pythons..

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Originally Posted by zina10

She is BEAUTIFUL !!!

And yes, what a difference in body language. In the first picture she is so tense...second picture, loose and relaxed coils. AWESOME !!

She really does remind me of Arjana. She was the same exact way. Now she rarely even looks worried and no more defensiveness. Some calm down the longer they are handled, some become more frantic to the point of "hysteria", LOL. Short and often did the trick for Arjana.

They can live 40+ years, there is no rush to accomplish anything. Slow and steady does the trick ;) Patience goes a long way with Ball Pythons..

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i was so, so thankful for your advice and guidance. not many of us deal with these snappy babies, or just don't talk about it. it's really changed how i handle her and, honestly, my relationship with her. it's hard to bond with a snake who is scared and wants to murder you lol. it's nice to have someone who has gone through this before me, and has given me advice.

thank you for everything, zina. [emoji4] <3 you're awesome.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i was so, so thankful for your advice and guidance. not many of us deal with these snappy babies, or just don't talk about it. it's really changed how i handle her and, honestly, my relationship with her. it's hard to bond with a snake who is scared and wants to murder you lol. it's nice to have someone who has gone through this before me, and has given me advice.

thank you for everything, zina. [emoji4] <3 you're awesome.

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You are welcome :)
Arjana was a learning curve for me, that's for sure !! ;) But in a way, raising one like "this" is rewarding, too ! You really get to notice the progress you make, and you fall in love with them all over again :) I've learned from tips I found online, as well as my own experience. Ending the handling session before they get frantic takes the stress out of it for them and the handler. Before you know it, the snake learns to trust it won't die, the handler gets to enjoy the snake and all is well that ends well ;)

I can't wait to watch Coffee Bean grow up, she is such a unique color, make sure you update again when she is wearing her new skin. She is beautiful!!

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Originally Posted by zina10

You are welcome :)
Arjana was a learning curve for me, that's for sure !! ;) But in a way, raising one like "this" is rewarding, too ! You really get to notice the progress you make, and you fall in love with them all over again :) I've learned from tips I found online, as well as my own experience. Ending the handling session before they get frantic takes the stress out of it for them and the handler. Before you know it, the snake learns to trust it won't die, the handler gets to enjoy the snake and all is well that ends well ;)

I can't wait to watch Coffee Bean grow up, she is such a unique color, make sure you update again when she is wearing her new skin. She is beautiful!!

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i learn from her every day, and i really DO feel like i'm falling in love with her all over again. with Yellow it was instant because he's so calm; it came easily. as much as i hate to admit, she kinda scared me a bit in the beginning! i'm just thankful to connect with others who can help and truly get what i'm dealing with; i feel reassured i'm doing okay, as is Coffee Bean.

tell Arjana i said thank you for helping us!!! give her a plump rat next meal for me. [emoji14]

That's the one thing you can always count on when it comes to Arjana. She will not say no to any food. LMAO !!!

Joking aside, I know (and knew) exactly how you felt, because I went through the same emotions. First is the excitement and anticipation. Can't wait to get it.
Then...its a little pisspot of a thing. Not the calm/curious/sweet BP we all want.

Also hard to talk about, this nagging little disappointed feeling inside. Esp. when you try hard to get them over it and it doesn't seem to work, quite the opposite. But its a learning experience and once you figure out the little buggers and what works for them, it gets so much better, and quickly, too! And then it just keeps improving. Both of you are already doing great and in a few month you'll do nothing but laugh when you think back on what a angry, tense little noodle she used to be!

look what i found!
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264g [emoji7]
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she was very relaxed, though balled up. i love her. [emoji4]
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day 1 vs day whatever we're at now [emoji3]
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Aaaaaah! Precious girl! And the look on her lil face is hilarious. 'What the heck mum why am I awake so early!' So proud of her :').

Such a pretty girl.

And much nicer demeanor ..hehe.

I love the "silver glow" she is getting, so beautiful !!

quick handling session before moving her into her 32qt bin. this was our first stress-free handling session. she was relaxed and exploring like i've never seen. yay. [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...aa06e45160.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6e5175fbe0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c64a1027aa.jpg

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quick handling session before moving her into her 32qt bin. this was our first stress-free handling session. she was relaxed and exploring like i've never seen. yay. [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...aa06e45160.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6e5175fbe0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c64a1027aa.jpg

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Look at those dark eyes and that puppy face in the last pic! She's stunning.

Glad to hear she's starting to stress out less!

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Originally Posted by Ashleigh91

Look at those dark eyes and that puppy face in the last pic! She's stunning.

Glad to hear she's starting to stress out less!

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she was like a completely different snake tonight. she seemed to actually enjoy being out of her tub, sniffin' around. [emoji1]