Gene finally has a thread!

The only breaks of cleaning up piss soaked paper towels is the day after feeding and once he goes into blue.

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The only breaks of cleaning up piss soaked paper towels is the day after feeding and once he goes into blue.

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Lol. Guess I'm getting lucky. Caesar seems to be mellowing out from when he was a baby. He still will eat like a pig if I let him but seems the large/medium depending where I buy from is doing good for him. He starts cruising around at day 5 but isn't pushing anymore. Now I got Rosey pushing all her Eco Earth directly into the track doors of her AP cage since it's two days before feeding. I swear, if it isn't one snake causing trouble, its another one lol. I think they take turns seeing who can piss me off the most :taz: Actually Vicky is the only one who is always laid back. Dottie is my destructo BP. She comes out after lights out and shoves her hides all over along with Eco Earth.

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Lol. Guess I'm getting lucky. Caesar seems to be mellowing out from when he was a baby. He still will eat like a pig if I let him but seems the large/medium depending where I buy from is doing good for him. He starts cruising around at day 5 but isn't pushing anymore. Now I got Rosey pushing all her Eco Earth directly into the track doors of her AP cage since it's two days before feeding. I swear, if it isn't one snake causing trouble, its another one lol. I think they take turns seeing who can piss me off the most :taz: Actually Vicky is the only one who is always laid back. Dottie is my destructo BP. She comes out after lights out and shoves her hides all over along with Eco Earth.

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I only have two right now, but I would never know I even have Tina. She is in her hide all day. Might piss every other week and poop once a month. She is such a good girl. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...79f64769db.jpg

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Put my girl Tina on an every other week eating schedule. She does great on small rats, could probably bump get to mediums and Gene to larges soon. (Took her hide out to eat)
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And my little garbage disposal Gene. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1d64f4e606.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dee66f5d70.jpg

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Well Gene took a giant poop, so it was bath time followed by enrichment. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5394878900.jpg
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And Tina enjoying play time as well..... She's special ed.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8ea6f15a32.jpg


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Haha Dottie does that a lot too. She just puts her head in the hide and sleeps there. It's like 'you do know snake, if you were in the wild, you would probably have the survivability time of a twinkie at a fat camp :D

What do you guys think I could sell my rack for? It's a 41qt rack, with heat and installed rope lights. I paid $200 from Herptastic. When it was shipped one of the supports had cracked but I glued it. Looking to ditch it once the T8s get in. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...489011f9ef.jpg

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I'd honestly hang on to it until you're sure you won't need it. I almost tossed my neodesha cage and then came across Gerald soon after and needed the cage space for quarantine until I can get Phyllis's new AP T25 and give Gerald her T8


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Off topic, selling on ebay blows.

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Well I took your guys advice, I talked to Ali at AP. I ordered a T10 to go with the T8 I ordered a few weeks back. I have to call Bob Monday and get an RHP shipped over to AP. Ali said she'll ship them both at the same time, really sucks when it's 6 weeks out.

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Well I took your guys advice, I talked to Ali at AP. I ordered a T10 to go with the T8 I ordered a few weeks back. I have to call Bob Monday and get an RHP shipped over to AP. Ali said she'll ship them both at the same time, really sucks when it's 6 weeks out.

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Everything is looking great!

I love the name "Gene"!!!!

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Well I took your guys advice, I talked to Ali at AP. I ordered a T10 to go with the T8 I ordered a few weeks back. I have to call Bob Monday and get an RHP shipped over to AP. Ali said she'll ship them both at the same time, really sucks when it's 6 weeks out.

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If they are shipping your T10 in 6 weeks, count your blessings lol. I had to wait 13 weeks for my 3 T10s. I did get lucky with my T8s as I ordered 2 the month before and then added a 3rd one and stand a week before they 2 were going to ship so they just banged out the 3rd one I ordered in a week and sent them all at once.

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Everything is looking great!

I love the name "Gene"!!!!

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Sad at 33 years old, I love Bob's Burgers. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...08dc60b871.jpg

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Well I miss read my receipt, the T8 will ship in 6 weeks, the T10 is 10 / 12 weeks out.

Can't wait for them to come in.

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Well I miss read my receipt, the T8 will ship in 6 weeks, the T10 is 10 / 12 weeks out.

Can't wait for them to come in.

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Ok that's sounds more like it haha. They are pretty backed up. My guess is the T8 is on schedule but for the T10, I would guess 13-14 weeks. Sucks for me, I gotta order another T8 and during the tax return time :( Also gotta throw another order at Dion at Spyder Robotics. Going to take the plunge and order a Herpstat 6 and then just use my Herpstat 2 redline as a backup and my Herpstat 1 redline for the new T8 and then sell off the normal Herpstat 2 and 1 locally probably.

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Ok that's sounds more like it haha. They are pretty backed up. My guess is the T8 is on schedule but for the T10, I would guess 13-14 weeks. Sucks for me, I gotta order another T8 and during the tax return time :( Also gotta throw another order at Dion at Spyder Robotics. Going to take the plunge and order a Herpstat 6 and then just use my Herpstat 2 redline as a backup and my Herpstat 1 redline for the new T8 and then sell off the normal Herpstat 2 and 1 locally probably.

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I may take the herpstat 2 off your hands eventually if you're willing to ship? We can discuss that in a message later though


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I may take the herpstat 2 off your hands eventually if you're willing to ship? We can discuss that in a message later though


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Never shipped but yeah, we can discuss it if you need it. I should still have the original box laying around or worst case, I can just use one of my other Herpstat boxes as they are all the same size. Wont be until probably towards the middle of next month as I'll be ordering the Herpstat 6 beginning of next month assuming everything else goes good haha.

Gene out for a stretch today after work. I swear he pissed daily just so he can come out. Curious how bad it'll be once he's off of paper towel and in real substrate in his T10? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...43ecf366a5.jpg

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No idea. Half the time I cant even find Caesar's piss unless it leaves urate. I just throw it all out once a month regardless. And on a side note, Caesar took his first piss outside the cage.....right on my foot.... I was relaxing watching tv and felt a warm 'rain' on my bare foot. I look down to see Caesars butt hanging down pissing on me.....he couldn't wait until his cage was clean. I had him out since I was changing his substrate so I relaxing watching tv while I let the F10SC soak in the cage lol.

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No idea. Half the time I cant even find Caesar's piss unless it leaves urate. I just throw it all out once a month regardless. And on a side note, Caesar took his first piss outside the cage.....right on my foot.... I was relaxing watching tv and felt a warm 'rain' on my bare foot. I look down to see Caesars butt hanging down pissing on me.....he couldn't wait until his cage was clean. I had him out since I was changing his substrate so I relaxing watching tv while I let the F10SC soak in the cage lol.

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I'm still waiting for it, with the amount Gene pisses it is only a matter of time. It's like Russian Roulette ha.

On a different note, if I was to spray paint PVC would putting it in the enclosure be an issue?

Btw, another day another piss. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...981364ccbc.jpg

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I'm still waiting for it, with the amount Gene pisses it is only a matter of time. It's like Russian Roulette ha.

On a different note, if I was to spray paint PVC would putting it in the enclosure be an issue?

Btw, another day another piss. https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...981364ccbc.jpg

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Haha love that pic. What do you mean spray paint pvc? like a hide or something?

I made this for Gene and he uses it all the time. I want to shorten it up and put it in his t10, I just hate the color. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e8b78760f8.jpg
And one more from today.
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OH, I don't know to be honest. I know guys will scorch the pvc with propane torches outside so the fumes don't kill you and then hit it with a spray bottle of water to give it texture as the water droplets will put divets in the stuff. You could probably order black pvc. Think D4katz did one up in black pvc, looked pretty nice. I'm going to just build a huge one for outside the cage so I can drag it outside in the summer time too and let the boas sit on it in the shade while I sit next to them in a chair and read a book or do yard work close to them.

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OH, I don't know to be honest. I know guys will scorch the pvc with propane torches outside so the fumes don't kill you and then hit it with a spray bottle of water to give it texture as the water droplets will put divets in the stuff. You could probably order black pvc. Think D4katz did one up in black pvc, looked pretty nice. I'm going to just build a huge one for outside the cage so I can drag it outside in the summer time too and let the boas sit on it in the shade while I sit next to them in a chair and read a book or do yard work close to them.

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I'm jealous! I haven't taken the snakes outside besides the patio (3rd floor apartment). We have nosey neighbors, and honestly don't want to stir the pot.

I had a nice house that would have been perfect, but my ex wife and long term boyfriend have it now.

Haha he is screwed.

How did the new enclosures come out?

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I'm jealous! I haven't taken the snakes outside besides the patio (3rd floor apartment). We have nosey neighbors, and honestly don't want to stir the pot.

I had a nice house that would have been perfect, but my ex wife and long term boyfriend have it now.

Haha he is screwed.

How did the new enclosures come out?

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Lol yeah, I'll keep my snakes on the downlow too. I will just take them in the backyard on the deck where my neighbors cant really see. I personally would rather not have my neighbors seeing 7' snakes lol.

And what enclosures? You mean the T8s I just got?

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Lol yeah, I'll keep my snakes on the downlow too. I will just take them in the backyard on the deck where my neighbors cant really see. I personally would rather not have my neighbors seeing 7' snakes lol.

And what enclosures? You mean the T8s I just got?

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If so, everything is together except I need to order another T8 for Luna probably in 2 months as I guess the lead time on even T8s now is 8 weeks last I heard. I think I'm going to get a Herpstat 6 next month as I need 1 more for the 7th cage. Atm I have 2 Redlines-a 2 and 1 and 2 normal-2 and 1. So I would need to order another 1 or just say screw it and order a 6 and then use the redline 1 for the 7th cage and have the redline 2 as a back up if the 6 ever needs to go to the shop. And then sell the normal 2 and 1 and I think JM wants the normal 2 but we'll see how it all plays out as my plans rarely ever follow what I set out haha. Anyways, here's the newest pic of all the cages set up with everyone in them. On the left from top to bottom is Caesar, Vicky, Rosey and on the right from top to bottom is Gina, Rango and Dottie. Luna is still upstairs in quarantine as I'm making sure she doesn't get mites back and doesn't spread them to anyone else. So far its been over a month and so far so good. Gonna give it until her new cage gets here with treatments, so figure they will for sure be dead after about 3-4 months of treatment lol.
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Oh and don't mind the steam in Caesar's cage lol. I just changed his substrate last night.

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If so, everything is together except I need to order another T8 for Luna probably in 2 months as I guess the lead time on even T8s now is 8 weeks last I heard. I think I'm going to get a Herpstat 6 next month as I need 1 more for the 7th cage. Atm I have 2 Redlines-a 2 and 1 and 2 normal-2 and 1. So I would need to order another 1 or just say screw it and order a 6 and then use the redline 1 for the 7th cage and have the redline 2 as a back up if the 6 ever needs to go to the shop. And then sell the normal 2 and 1 and I think JM wants the normal 2 but we'll see how it all plays out as my plans rarely ever follow what I set out haha. Anyways, here's the newest pic of all the cages set up with everyone in them. On the left from top to bottom is Caesar, Vicky, Rosey and on the right from top to bottom is Gina, Rango and Dottie. Luna is still upstairs in quarantine as I'm making sure she doesn't get mites back and doesn't spread them to anyone else. So far its been over a month and so far so good. Gonna give it until her new cage gets here with treatments, so figure they will for sure be dead after about 3-4 months of treatment lol.
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Oh and don't mind the steam in Caesar's cage lol. I just changed his substrate last night.

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Where do you get your Herpstat? I got mine from herptastic but I'd never purchase from them again.

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Where do you get your Herpstat? I got mine from herptastic but I'd never purchase from them again.

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I'd go directly through spyder robotics. Same price as the other suppliers and they're the ones that make the dang things haha. I'm still tempted to haggle with Sauzo on a used price for his (soon to be) spare herpstat 2 but the perfectionist artist in me wants a redline model so it matches the redline 2 that I already have hahah


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Where do you get your Herpstat? I got mine from herptastic but I'd never purchase from them again.

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I just order them straight from Spyder Robotics too.

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I'd go directly through spyder robotics. Same price as the other suppliers and they're the ones that make the dang things haha. I'm still tempted to haggle with Sauzo on a used price for his (soon to be) spare herpstat 2 but the perfectionist artist in me wants a redline model so it matches the redline 2 that I already have hahah


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Lol I hear ya. Up to you though. If you don't need/want it, I have no fear I can sell it locally haha. Wish the Herpstat 6 came in redline :(

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Lol I hear ya. Up to you though. If you don't need/want it, I have no fear I can sell it locally haha. Wish the Herpstat 6 came in redline :(

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lol I'll think about it for sure. I don't need it right away but I'd rather have a herpstat than the jumpstart that I have running Gerald's cage, especially once I get Phyllis a new t13 or t25 and move Gerald into her T8. I'll keep the jumpstart as a backup or use it to control my room radiator on the lower power setting during colder months. I really wish they made everything in the redline model as well
(Sorry for derailing your thread a bit stearns! [emoji52])

Haha me too. I like the Redline with the black cages. I thought about maybe waiting also for Herpstat 6 redline but I doubt they will do it as they still haven't done a herpstat 4 in redline :(

Tina shed and pooped tonight, surprisingly skipped her small rat. I didn't offer it last week because she just started her shed cycle.

Best part about Gene is he has no problem eating a medium then a small. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4c9610ed3c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b7fb061bd2.jpg

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Tina shed and pooped tonight, surprisingly skipped her small rat. I didn't offer it last week because she just started her shed cycle.

Best part about Gene is he has no problem eating a medium then a small. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4c9610ed3c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b7fb061bd2.jpg

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Look at Gene go!

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Tina shed and pooped tonight, surprisingly skipped her small rat. I didn't offer it last week because she just started her shed cycle.

Best part about Gene is he has no problem eating a medium then a small. https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...4c9610ed3c.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...b7fb061bd2.jpg

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So excited for a double helping of rat that he pee'd in the cage? :P

And on a side note, Caesar has been seeming happy with medium rats now. I backed him down from the larges. Going to try a medium rat every 10 days. He has seemed to mellow out a lot from the food drive. I think he was growing so wanted more food. He seems to be filling out now more and not really gaining length...at the moment lol.

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And on a side note, Caesar has been seeming happy with medium rats now. I backed him down from the larges. Going to try a medium rat every 10 days. He has seemed to mellow out a lot from the food drive. I think he was growing so wanted more food. He seems to be filling out now more and not really gaining length...at the moment lol.

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NO HI-Jack LOL We love Gene,

But on a Caesar/Wallace note, I'm thinking of bumping Wallace to mediums. He refused a Fresh Killed large (small large) yesterday and I only offered because two other refused. He is passed the 10 day mark and isn't wild about eating just yet so I guess I'll offer up the rest of the smalls and then when his 1st B-day comes on June 1st. He'll got to mediums. I'm happy with his size and don't think he'll be a monster even if he hit 10 feet.

Wallace isn't as big as Gene. I think he and Caesar are probably close in size, although I think Caesar is probably a bit longer and thicker. I wish we could compare them. The SD X Dwarf and mainland percentages are interesting from snake to snake and the affect on growth would be worth studying a bit more.

Wallace still fits in the royal python's first hides from years ago.

No more pee sprays or pissy cage behavior either. He's becoming a really nice fella.

OK, OK,,

Sorry Gene, it's your thread and I'm curious like Sauzo is; Did he wizz from excitement over the next rat or was that rat wet when he got it?

Lol its not a hijack. We just use each others threads to discuss on. So whoever it lands on, we use that persons thread until new pics pop from someone else haha.

Gene is longer than Caesar. Gene is 5.5' I think and Caesar is 5' at least semi measure. As for thickness, they might be both about the same. Caesar is about 1.5" thick. He is filling out more though which is kind of why I'm cutting him back to mediums and going to try every 10 days. He LOVES to eat though. Every time I open the cage, he is front and center lol. I boop his snoot with the twisted paper towel and he usually looks all disappointed and goes back into a hide lol. He is a spazz though when I take him out. No longer the calm relaxed snake, he just wants to gogogogo. Took him out this morning to stir up his Eco Earth and he was crawling all over me like crazy haha. He isn't near the lounge snakes the boas are anymore.

Lol and good Wallace doesn't soak you anymore. Caesar took his first piss on me though. I let him out to hang out and then I felt a warm raining on my foot. I looked down to see Caesar's fat butt hanging over my foot pissing on it lol. It wasn't a ton of piss, it was like he was marking me lol.

As for mainland percentages, yeah that is interesting. Also I have heard tiger is a big gene so retics with tiger gene tend to get larger. Not sure if it's true or not but Caesar has definitely gotten a lot bigger than when o got him. He was about 2' back in Oct. Today when I had him out, I saw just how big he is. Luckily he is still as nice as when he was a baby although like I said, he doesn't sit still for anything anymore and where he wants to go, he pretty much goes. Hard holding him back LOL.

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Lol its not a hijack. We just use each others threads to discuss on. So whoever it lands on, we use that persons thread until new pics pop from someone else haha.

Gene is longer than Caesar. Gene is 5.5' I think and Caesar is 5' at least semi measure. As for thickness, they might be both about the same. Caesar is about 1.5" thick. He is filling out more though which is kind of why I'm cutting him back to mediums and going to try every 10 days. He LOVES to eat though. Every time I open the cage, he is front and center lol. I boop his snoot with the twisted paper towel and he usually looks all disappointed and goes back into a hide lol. He is a spazz though when I take him out. No longer the calm relaxed snake, he just wants to gogogogo. Took him out this morning to stir up his Eco Earth and he was crawling all over me like crazy haha. He isn't near the lounge snakes the boas are anymore.

Lol and good Wallace doesn't soak you anymore. Caesar took his first piss on me though. I let him out to hang out and then I felt a warm raining on my foot. I looked down to see Caesar's fat butt hanging over my foot pissing on it lol. It wasn't a ton of piss, it was like he was marking me lol.

As for mainland percentages, yeah that is interesting. Also I have heard tiger is a big gene so retics with tiger gene tend to get larger. Not sure if it's true or not but Caesar has definitely gotten a lot bigger than when o got him. He was about 2' back in Oct. Today when I had him out, I saw just how big he is. Luckily he is still as nice as when he was a baby although like I said, he doesn't sit still for anything anymore and where he wants to go, he pretty much goes. Hard holding him back LOL.

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Does his stomach gurgle when you try to hold him back?? If Wallace get far enough out of my hand and its under his stomach, it makes a sound and I'm just waiting for the explosion LOL!

My boa did this when younger but nothing like Wallace. He doesn't even have food in him today, at least not yet.

I'm guessing they are close in size.

And yeah, Gene,,,, we jump in and out of each other's threads Feel free to pop in and "Gene up" a Wallace or Caesar thread.

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And on a side note, Caesar has been seeming happy with medium rats now. I backed him down from the larges. Going to try a medium rat every 10 days. He has seemed to mellow out a lot from the food drive. I think he was growing so wanted more food. He seems to be filling out now more and not really gaining length...at the moment lol.

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That's Gene too, he doesn't seem to be getting longer but he is packing on his girth. Gene is a monster when he first takes his mediums, but there is barely a food lump. When I offer him a follow Small, he just slowly grabs it and barely coils.


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Does his stomach gurgle when you try to hold him back?? If Wallace get far enough out of my hand and its under his stomach, it makes a sound and I'm just waiting for the explosion LOL!

My boa did this when younger but nothing like Wallace. He doesn't even have food in him today, at least not yet.

I'm guessing they are close in size.

And yeah, Gene,,,, we jump in and out of each other's threads Feel free to pop in and "Gene up" a Wallace or Caesar thread.

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Gene will make some really horrible stomach noises sometimes. I feel like he is just waiting to explode on myself or the carpet.

I know we all tried to do a comparison on them with their hides. We need to find something of common size and take updated pictures.

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Does his stomach gurgle when you try to hold him back?? If Wallace get far enough out of my hand and its under his stomach, it makes a sound and I'm just waiting for the explosion LOL!

My boa did this when younger but nothing like Wallace. He doesn't even have food in him today, at least not yet.

I'm guessing they are close in size.

And yeah, Gene,,,, we jump in and out of each other's threads Feel free to pop in and "Gene up" a Wallace or Caesar thread.

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I've only had Caesar's stomach gurgle once on me and I was praying he didn't poop on me lol. Vicky did it more often when she was smaller. Not anymore though.

On a different note, how do you guys prep branches you plan to put in your enclosures? I used to find very dry ones that the bark has fallen off of. I cut it down and sanded it. Then usually soak in bleach / water for 24 hours.
Should I put a varnish or something on it so mr. Pee machine doesn't ruin them?

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On a different note, how do you guys prep branches you plan to put in your enclosures? I used to find very dry ones that the bark has fallen off of. I cut it down and sanded it. Then usually soak in bleach / water for 24 hours.
Should I put a varnish or something on it so mr. Pee machine doesn't ruin them?

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I don't use branches. I'm pretty minimalist. I have the shelf, water bowl and 2 hides.

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Does his stomach gurgle when you try to hold him back?? If Wallace get far enough out of my hand and its under his stomach, it makes a sound and I'm just waiting for the explosion LOL!

My boa did this when younger but nothing like Wallace. He doesn't even have food in him today, at least not yet.

I'm guessing they are close in size.

And yeah, Gene,,,, we jump in and out of each other's threads Feel free to pop in and "Gene up" a Wallace or Caesar thread.

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Phyllis does the gurgling too if she tries to run back into her cage as I'm getting her out. Only snake I've had that's done that. Never gotten any messy business when I hear that gurgling though.
While we're talking SD retic sizes to some extent... got Phyllis to crawl out straight next to a tape measure yesterday. Only a couple inches shy of 7'. She's getting beastly. Think I'll order her T25 soon lol


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Phyllis does the gurgling too if she tries to run back into her cage as I'm getting her out. Only snake I've had that's done that. Never gotten any messy business when I hear that gurgling though.
While we're talking SD retic sizes to some extent... got Phyllis to crawl out straight next to a tape measure yesterday. Only a couple inches shy of 7'. She's getting beastly. Think I'll order her T25 soon lol


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We need some updated pictures!

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We need some updated pictures!

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Coming right up! Check her thread in a minute.


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What's the turn around time when you order direct from Spyder Robotics?

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Real quick. I think I had my herpstat 2 in hand in like a week or two when I ordered last spring


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