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  • 07-20-2016, 03:23 PM
    Prognathodon
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Yes, get back to the doctor ASAP. Until then, I'd soak in as hot as you can stand, with a little dish soap, several times a day; but if you were told to keep it dry, do that.

    Once upon a time I got chewed on by a cat (she was pretty much feral and didn't want to be caught for a pill, and I was too stupid/stubborn to let go). Our doctor took me off the antibiotic I was on for something else, and put me on a stronger one.


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  • 07-20-2016, 03:59 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    I actually wasn't told to do anything with it, I wasn't fond of the doctor that "looked" at it at the hospital. He walked in, asked me what was wrong, I showed him the bite (it looked like it did in the first photos) and he barely glanced at it before saying Yep! Here are these antibiotics, take one twice daily! I mentioned I wasn't sure if anything else was going on with the finger and he immediately just said that naahhh it's just swollen and then proceeded to squeeze my already hurting finger behind the bite... not to mention he was cracking unprofessional jokes.

    I'm going to go back to the hospital tomorrow morning, I wouldn't be able to get an appointment with my doctor until likely another month from now. I want to give these antibiotics a chance to work.
  • 07-20-2016, 04:33 PM
    Prognathodon
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    If your regular doctor's office is open, you could try calling and asking a nurse for advice on care until you go back to the hospital tomorrow. Hopefully they're more clueful than the ER twerp (or better yet, they tell you to come in [emoji846]).


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  • 07-20-2016, 05:07 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Well, they are closed now. I personally think doctors' offices close too early, but oh well! I'll attempt your advice with the hot water and dish soap and see what that does for me. I iced it a bunch overnight, but it was too cold to leave on my hand and if I wrapped it up in something the cold barely came through. So I just struggled a bit and iced it for a few seconds every minute or so until I eventually fell asleep.

    I've been moving it more and more in the last few hours, I think it felt a little more difficult to move than it actually was because I WASN'T moving it, so it got stiff. I still can't make a fist because the swelling at the bottom of my finger prevents that, makes it feel like my skin is going to explode if I try too hard! But I've been able to get it decently straight, it won't go any farther. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...762c51b9f2.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...71d18ec01d.jpg
  • 07-20-2016, 06:02 PM
    Eavlynn
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Sometimes, if you call your doctor first thing in the morning, you can snag an appointment from a cancellation. But if they can't get you in right away, you should definitely go back to the ER. Infections aren't something to be messed with. Best of luck, and keep us posted!
  • 07-20-2016, 06:22 PM
    Snoopyslim
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Hate to say it but that comparison picture is not looking the best hun. You should try to take advil or ibuprofen, it may help with the swelling until you get back to the hospital tomorrow. I know you didn't want to take more pills but it should help the swelling. Hopefully you won't get the same dummy dumb doctor and get someone who actually takes it serious. Make sure you show them the progression pictures - that may help. Hope you're not in too much pain <3
  • 07-20-2016, 06:33 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Definitely! I'm just wanting to give these antibiotics a chance to fight it off, I'd rather not have to buy some more, stronger, and likely more expensive antibiotics!
  • 07-20-2016, 06:46 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Here's a comparison photo when we were at the hospital yesterday. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c30641632b.jpg
  • 07-20-2016, 08:14 PM
    Jeanne
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    I have been involved in cat rescue for years. My advice after seeing that pic...U need to be seen by a doctor ASAP do not wait.. Do not collect $200 as you pass go.. Just go get medical attention immediately. Cat bites and wounds caused by cats can become very serious quickly. The presence of puss is very concerning.

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  • 07-20-2016, 08:38 PM
    EmilyandArlo
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Agreed. I have heard how serious cat bites can be and although I have no experience with them myself, I did once have a tiny blister on the back of my foot become infected and swollen. After about 30 minutes, the swelling had spread past my ankle and I went into the ER. It was a staph infection and the doctor said it was a good thing I had gone in asap or it may have resulted in a very long hospital stay. Because the swelling has worsened and there is puss, I think it's better to be safe than sorry. I would get it looked at right away.


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  • 07-20-2016, 09:25 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    I did get looked at, though! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...aa7ca960ba.jpg I was told not to come back unless it gets "substantially worse." It hasn't worsened since this morning, but I would have expected the swelling to lessen.

    I do want to go back in, the little study I was reading concerned me somewhat, since apparently being over a joint or tendon is an especially bad place to get bit, and the tooth went in RIGHT beside the joint in my finger. That and the fact that my hand and finger is still swollen, red and painful.
  • 07-21-2016, 02:44 AM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    I did get looked at, though! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...aa7ca960ba.jpg I was told not to come back unless it gets "substantially worse." It hasn't worsened since this morning, but I would have expected the swelling to lessen.

    I do want to go back in, the little study I was reading concerned me somewhat, since apparently being over a joint or tendon is an especially bad place to get bit, and the tooth went in RIGHT beside the joint in my finger. That and the fact that my hand and finger is still swollen, red and painful.

    That doctor sounds like he was a bit of a... well just substitute in your choice (:

    I would say that this is substantially worse. If you can't move the joint, definitely go in. You need your hands for doing human things, so you don't want them permanently damaged!

    Even if the doctors get irritated, they aren't the ones that have to deal with the consequences if something goes wrong. So who cares about them. It is YOUR hand and your pain.
    Doctors are often big bullies imo. Make them listen to you.

    Let us know what happens/happened!

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  • 07-21-2016, 01:13 PM
    Prognathodon
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Hopefully Fraido is off getting treated (insert worried face here).


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  • 07-21-2016, 06:31 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    When I got up this morning the swelling had actually finally gone down a little!

    So I have refrained from going in for the time being. Plus my mom is going on about how they're just going to tell me to give the antibiotics time to work, yadda yadda. I'm going to send my Granny the pictures from the last two days and take some more now and get her opinion on it, she is an RN so I trust her opinion! I may or may not be just avoiding going until I really have to, uggh, it's just such an annoying process. I prroommiisseee I'll go in tomorrow for sure! 😣

    Had some running around to do today, sorry if I worried anyone. 😮
  • 07-21-2016, 06:35 PM
    EmilyandArlo
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Glad to hear the swelling went down! That is a good sign, indeed. Get well soon [emoji4]


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  • 07-21-2016, 07:05 PM
    Prognathodon
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Yay!


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  • 07-22-2016, 02:10 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...42adb8f039.jpg
    Lucky for this guy he didn't even get a scratch during that struggle! Poor Nugget was rabbit kicking like crazy in her panic trying to kick off the snake, I guess our hands made great shields. Lol

    I can now confirm 100% that Nugget is perfectly fine after the ordeal, as I expected. I had immediately taken her into the bathroom to wipe her off, I didn't even look to see what kind of damage there was, I think I was a little afraid to? I was worried about her eyes. Thankfully it was clear that only her chin was grabbed, so I inspected the damage, gently lifting her lips to make sure her bottom jaw was positioned properly. She was good! But my God, we went to get her some Aspirin and when we got back the swelling was so bad! She looked like she had an incredibly long chin, and it was clear she was in pain/slight shock. Understandably. My frickin mother who only yelled and screamed at us in my doorway during the whole ordeal wouldn't even let me give it to her, because according to her the short struggle to get the pill down would only put her in more pain and would be pointless. So we didn't end up giving it to her until late that night, but it obviously helped contrary to what my mother thought. I kept her in my room for the night and she ate a whole can of wet food and actually cuddled and purred, which she certainly wouldn't have done earlier in the day. She didn't want to be touched at all.

    Now she is back to her usual self, happily going about her days, actually coming to me when I call her. Lol

    I can now actually see the outline of my last two knuckles when my hand is relaxed, and I can straighten the finger for the most part, bending it still causes discomfort but that's just because closing my fist compressed the swollen bottom part of my finger. So, as you can see, the joint is still decently swollen, but it appears to be improving!http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...aca2e4a0b2.jpg
  • 07-23-2016, 06:33 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    I spoke too soon apparently! Went to bed lastnight and Nugget came up to cuddle and GOOD LORD all I could smell was death, so I checked and she's got an infection in her lip from the bite. *sigh* Gonna make an appointment in a couple hours to get her some antibiotics.

    Meanwhile, mine are finally working! Swelling has gone down 90% now, pain is mostly gone, I'm getting bettttteerr! Will post pics laree today.
  • 07-24-2016, 12:55 AM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    I spoke too soon apparently! Went to bed lastnight and Nugget came up to cuddle and GOOD LORD all I could smell was death, so I checked and she's got an infection in her lip from the bite. *sigh* Gonna make an appointment in a couple hours to get her some antibiotics.

    Meanwhile, mine are finally working! Swelling has gone down 90% now, pain is mostly gone, I'm getting bettttteerr! Will post pics laree today.

    Oh no! Did you get some meds for her?

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  • 07-24-2016, 01:13 AM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Sorry I'm late to the party Fraido but I'm really glad you're doing better.
  • 07-24-2016, 01:23 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Nugget has an appointment with the vet tomorrow. ☺

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...3e06a3616e.jpg Look at that, 99% less swollen!
  • 07-24-2016, 01:35 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Just did some more poking around Nugget's mouth looking for the infection, SO GROSS. It's not her chin, but her upper gums, some nastiness is going on there. So, though I'm having a hard time visualizing it, the snake had a hold of her chin and also INSIDE her mouth up top. There wasn't any sign of the grab on top of her mouth so I didn't even think to look up there, it must have pushed her lip up when the snake hit her and that's why it's only on her gums. Talk about ouch.

    Can't wait to get to the vet.
  • 07-24-2016, 12:51 PM
    Eavlynn
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    I'm glad your finger seems to be healing up! Best wishes for your little Nugget and her vet appointment. Poor gal. Hopefully they can get her right as rain in no time.
  • 07-24-2016, 03:45 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    GROSS WARNING
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    ..................http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...31bc653695.jpg1 hour until her appointment!
  • 07-24-2016, 06:15 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Turns out, she just has Gingivitis or whatever. Gross! Now she has to have a 400 dollar cleaning and another couple hundred dollar's worth of teeth removed.
  • 07-24-2016, 11:46 PM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    Turns out, she just has Gingivitis or whatever. Gross! Now she has to have a 400 dollar cleaning and another couple hundred dollar's worth of teeth removed.

    Well that sucks. But infections can be tricky, so it is also kind of good?
    Hope everything goes well with her procedures and glad your finger is feeling better!

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  • 07-24-2016, 11:53 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    That's kinda how I'm trying to see it.. an infection could have become really serious at any point, but the price of the procedures is ridonculous! I feel like it should be cheaper to help our pets. :( We have to figure out a way to get the procedure done, probably have to use HealthSmart, we're such poor people.
  • 07-25-2016, 03:05 PM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    That's kinda how I'm trying to see it.. an infection could have become really serious at any point, but the price of the procedures is ridonculous! I feel like it should be cheaper to help our pets. :( We have to figure out a way to get the procedure done, probably have to use HealthSmart, we're such poor people.

    I know, vets are rediculous. I would try shopping around, xalling different vets and writing down prices for what you need and going with the best option for you.
    They charge so much because they can get away with it. People love their animals so much that they will pay whatever it takes (this coming from someone whos puppy needed a 4000 surgery and got it).

    Also, some vets will work out a payment plan, though not all offer this. Maybe ask around for that too

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  • 07-25-2016, 03:14 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    I really like this vet, though, urggh. I think we're going to stick with them, but we're going to go through HealthSmart, they pay it off right away in full, and you make monthly payments to them to pay it off. Supposedly no interest, even for a 12 month plan, which I think is what I'm interested in. I have to ask and make sure, though. I also have to work it out with the boyfriend, I'm not working right now so I need him to do this for me but he doesn't want to "waste" his money on my "stupid cat". Too bad for him, though, that STUPID CAT is more important to me than he is, sorry to say! He goes on to say how possibly 1000 bucks to take out a few teeth is ridiculous, which I know, but so is 300 to cremate a rat or 300 to stitch up a tiny little rat's face, but he's more than willing to pay that because he actually likes the rats. *sigh* We'll figure it out, I was also talking to my mom about it, so we'll see. I'll find a way.
  • 07-25-2016, 11:43 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    God I hate myself. -_- Of course I spill half the bottle of antibiotics on the floor. No way I am buying another 60 dollar little bottle of it, so I guess I'll just give it to her as long as I can. UGH. Why must I ruin everything? Sheesh.

    The vet said it's only going to keep her "comfortable in the meantime," because things will just get stinky and uncomfortable for her again without the procedure, but she shows no signs of discomfort right now anyways. So even without the full course of antibiotics she should be fine until I can get it done.
  • 07-26-2016, 12:12 AM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    God I hate myself. -_- Of course I spill half the bottle of antibiotics on the floor. No way I am buying another 60 dollar little bottle of it, so I guess I'll just give it to her as long as I can. UGH. Why must I ruin everything? Sheesh.

    The vet said it's only going to keep her "comfortable in the meantime," because things will just get stinky and uncomfortable for her again without the procedure, but she shows no signs of discomfort right now anyways. So even without the full course of antibiotics she should be fine until I can get it done.

    That sucks about the meds. But stuff happens.
    And hopefully the payment thing works out!
    How is your finger doing btw?

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  • 07-26-2016, 12:28 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    My life is a hotspot for stuff happening... Lol

    So far so good with the finger! Looks so good, now. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...ddac5ac5cc.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...19458bb27c.jpg Still some slight swelling at the joint, but I think we're okay! 😀
  • 07-26-2016, 01:05 AM
    dkatz4
    oh my gosh, i just wanted to check posts for a minute before bed... half hour later :reading:
    Glad for your finger, sad for your cat. Actually terrified by the cat story, i am always worried about that interaction, although in my case its the snake that would end up being a meal. My one cat really pays the snake no attention, but as soon as my other cat realizes that Irwin is out and about his pupils dilate and i swear he starts drooling.
    I cant believe the size difference between your boa and Chubsy-Ubsy, that thing is huge! I'm glad he's chill (meow-mix preference not withstanding) I'd heard those guys could be quite temperamental.
    keep the pics and updates coming!
  • 07-26-2016, 01:29 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Lol! Sorry😜
    It was certainly a terrifying minute trying to get his mouth off, my God. I had no idea where he had grabbed her, all I could see was snake and cat and I somehow manage to very quickly find the snake's head with my hands and just immediately started to work it off, I couldn't see what I was doing, the cat was freaking out, my mom was freaking out, UGH. It was all so quick, but so terrifying, I'm glad everything turned out as well as it did. Let's not forget the terrible sounds cats make in painful situations along with the teeth ripping out of the skin... *shivers*

    I think I have a hard time seeing how big they really are, my boa still seems so small in my eyes, I look at big momma boas and I sort of wonder like, am I underfeeding her somehow?! Is she too small for her age?! I can't possibly imagine the day she's actually got some size/girth. I think that's mostly because of Mr. Phatty, here. I got him and he's just so big around he makes her look like baby!

    He is a great guy aside from this recent situation, I love him! I'm still cautious with him, especially when it comes to taking him out of the enclosure, and since I don't have a hook I've used many things in my room to take him out. Lol My most recent tool was a sheet. I do interact with him rather carefully, keeping my hands away from his face, and what-not. I felt those teeth when I was trying to pry him off my kitty, I don't want to feel an actual bite!😋
  • 07-26-2016, 01:44 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snoopyslim View Post
    OH NO! What happened and are you okay?? I've really enjoyed looking at the pictures of your big phatty boy and I showed my boyfriend last night and he said wow that girl is so tiny for that big snake hope she never gets tagged..... :( I'm SO sorry he jinxed you!

    HA! I totally missed 99% of that post the first time around, too busy worrying about my finger I guess, but I couldn't help but giggle! How rude of him to half sort of jinx me.. 😜
  • 07-26-2016, 06:00 PM
    aahmn
    When people complain that the pricing for these kinds of procedures on pets is ridiculous, remember that they have to go under general anesthesia. That and monitoring, etc, isn't cheap if done correctly. Vets aren't rolling in the dough...
  • 07-26-2016, 06:26 PM
    Snoopyslim
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Crumbs! Just when I thought everyone was doing great...how old is little Nugget? She's very pretty from the pics...part maine coon?? I guess animals get bad teeth too over time. My mom's dog, Bully (jack russell), had to get his teeth done and it was like $1,200.00!! Hope you figure out the finances and Nugget gets the treatment she needs. Maybe you can offer to pay your boyfriend back? Good luck and keep us posted with good news!! You're due for some good karma - sending happy vibes your way <3
  • 07-26-2016, 06:51 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aahmn View Post
    When people complain that the pricing for these kinds of procedures on pets is ridiculous, remember that they have to go under general anesthesia. That and monitoring, etc, isn't cheap if done correctly. Vets aren't rolling in the dough...

    That may be, but at the very least, all veterinary clinics should have payment plan options.
  • 07-26-2016, 07:12 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snoopyslim View Post
    Crumbs! Just when I thought everyone was doing great...how old is little Nugget? She's very pretty from the pics...part maine coon?? I guess animals get bad teeth too over time. My mom's dog, Bully (jack russell), had to get his teeth done and it was like $1,200.00!! Hope you figure out the finances and Nugget gets the treatment she needs. Maybe you can offer to pay your boyfriend back? Good luck and keep us posted with good news!! You're due for some good karma - sending happy vibes your way <3

    She'll be six this September! I've had her since the day she was born, she's my baby. I don't think she has any maine coon in her, but you never know! Her mom was a stray that was hanging around and we took her in, she had a couple litters, Nugget's from her third litter with us I believe.. Our first cat passed away when Nugget was only a few months old and I really wanted to keep her, so we kept two of the kittens. One being Nugget and the other is my mom's current boy, their mom passed a few months ago.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...4fa89bfc71.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...a008647ad7.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...a837736129.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...db6b793d97.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...c673f74527.jpg

    I can't wait to get her dealt with.
  • 07-26-2016, 08:15 PM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aahmn View Post
    When people complain that the pricing for these kinds of procedures on pets is ridiculous, remember that they have to go under general anesthesia. That and monitoring, etc, isn't cheap if done correctly. Vets aren't rolling in the dough...

    Yeah but when a vet charges 50-70 dollars canadian for an exam that consists of listening to their heart rate, temp, and a quick look in their mouth ears and eyes... That is rediculous. I am not talking about surgical procedures. I completely understand why my dogs surgery was so expensive.
    But with things like exams and shots, it's bloody highway murder.

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  • 07-27-2016, 02:38 PM
    Snoopyslim
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Awwww what a bunch of cuties! Thanks for sharing <3 Can't wait to hear when her mouth is all fixed up.
  • 07-27-2016, 09:43 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Wanting opinions, my mother has been going crazy, and she is so freaking rude I can barely stand it. I can't stand the "I'm always right" attitude she has 100% of the time, so I want opinions. We live in a little housing complex, supposedly the neighbours had been seen pouring what she suspects is grease and stuff down the storm drains, and apparently our water tastes and smells funny, and so she's constantly yelling at me about it because I don't smell or taste ANYTHING. That's been going on for the last week and a half. She is so crazy about it she is going to the city water people and she is going to get it tested because that is "not right." Her theory is that it must somehow have something to do with the neighbours and their pouring of grease. According to her she can't stand it so much that she can barely stand washing the dishes because she doesn't want her hands in the water.

    Now she's screaming at me about how the freezer smells funny and apparently I am stupid and wrong and need to be yelled at because once again I don't smell ANYTHING. I have smelled everything she is freaking out about, nothing. She calls me down to ask what was in a box in the freezer, my boyfriend's rat is in there because he passed away early June and he is pending cremation, so I tell her that and she freaks out about how she doesn't want it in there because according to her he's obviously "contaminating" everything in the fridge and poisoning everybody because now suddenly the bottled water doesn't taste right and it just MUST be him. I have smelled the box, I have tasted the water, NOTHING IS DIFFERENT. I am getting beyond frustrated. She goes as far to imply she's going to freaking die from the apparent "poisoning" that is happening, she tells me she has a doctors appointment next week and that she's going to bring it up to him and she says, "If I f***ing make it that long." JESUS.

    She complains about the neighbours having a little compost and putting crap in their gardens because it stinks, she made me go into the backyard earlier today and smell because apparently it smells metallic yet all I could smell was gross poopy grass from the stupid other neighbours which just let their dog crap wherever. Of course she starts yelling at me for not smelling it.

    Like, sounds to me like something is wrong with HER nose, smell and taste go together and she's the one having issues with both of those things. In the beginning when she was complaing about the water I could smell a faint metallic smell, but I don't smell anything now. She claims to smell it in the backyard where the hose pipe thing is and even when she showers. UGH. I can't stand being in the wrong all the time somehow just because I can't smell or taste what she is smelling and tasting.

    So, there is no way Choo (rat) could be "contaminating" anything, right? It does not make sense, I have other frozen rats in the freezer for the snakes and it doesn't make sense that apparently Choo is causing a problem when the other rats aren't. (I even had her smell the package of frozen rats, and I had both me and my boyfriend smell Choo.)
    What the heck do you guys think of this situation?!

    Have a photo of Phatty for suffering through this post
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...3e80bc00cd.jpg
  • 07-27-2016, 10:32 PM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Go figure after freaking out at me she determines it's just the smell coming from the neighbours actual place which she has been smelling since a week or two ago, and she thinks it's causing her "symptoms".
  • 07-27-2016, 11:03 PM
    aahmn
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    That may be, but at the very least, all veterinary clinics should have payment plan options.

    Lots of vets take Care Credit now. That is now the payment plan people get - 6 months interest free. Just where I work I know we've had to eat a lot of bills of people that promised to pay back when we did do regular payment plans. There are very high costs associated with running a clinic, and it sucks, but without those things being paid, there's no more service. Vets can't afford to repeatedly eat those costs.

    For exams, you pay for the doctor's time and knowledge. Veterinarians by far graduate with the highest debt to income ratio in all medical fields. That education isn't cheap, and neither are the enormous piles of debt they graduate with. They pay the same or more per credit as someone in med school, have to learn multiple species, yet their services are not considered to be worth nearly as much. For comparison, average billing charges for mechanics are close to $100/hr, but you can bet that the mechanics themselves don't make that much and they certainly didn't pay nearly as much for their education.

    Businesses cost money to run, and those costs need to be paid. That's just how things work, unless you find a place that takes donations in order to provide low cost care.

    Sorry. Did not mean to derail the thread...
  • 07-27-2016, 11:38 PM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    Wanting opinions, my mother has been going crazy, and she is so freaking rude I can barely stand it. I can't stand the "I'm always right" attitude she has 100% of the time, so I want opinions. We live in a little housing complex, supposedly the neighbours had been seen pouring what she suspects is grease and stuff down the storm drains, and apparently our water tastes and smells funny, and so she's constantly yelling at me about it because I don't smell or taste ANYTHING. That's been going on for the last week and a half. She is so crazy about it she is going to the city water people and she is going to get it tested because that is "not right." Her theory is that it must somehow have something to do with the neighbours and their pouring of grease. According to her she can't stand it so much that she can barely stand washing the dishes because she doesn't want her hands in the water.

    Now she's screaming at me about how the freezer smells funny and apparently I am stupid and wrong and need to be yelled at because once again I don't smell ANYTHING. I have smelled everything she is freaking out about, nothing. She calls me down to ask what was in a box in the freezer, my boyfriend's rat is in there because he passed away early June and he is pending cremation, so I tell her that and she freaks out about how she doesn't want it in there because according to her he's obviously "contaminating" everything in the fridge and poisoning everybody because now suddenly the bottled water doesn't taste right and it just MUST be him. I have smelled the box, I have tasted the water, NOTHING IS DIFFERENT. I am getting beyond frustrated. She goes as far to imply she's going to freaking die from the apparent "poisoning" that is happening, she tells me she has a doctors appointment next week and that she's going to bring it up to him and she says, "If I f***ing make it that long." JESUS.

    She complains about the neighbours having a little compost and putting crap in their gardens because it stinks, she made me go into the backyard earlier today and smell because apparently it smells metallic yet all I could smell was gross poopy grass from the stupid other neighbours which just let their dog crap wherever. Of course she starts yelling at me for not smelling it.

    Like, sounds to me like something is wrong with HER nose, smell and taste go together and she's the one having issues with both of those things. In the beginning when she was complaing about the water I could smell a faint metallic smell, but I don't smell anything now. She claims to smell it in the backyard where the hose pipe thing is and even when she showers. UGH. I can't stand being in the wrong all the time somehow just because I can't smell or taste what she is smelling and tasting.

    So, there is no way Choo (rat) could be "contaminating" anything, right? It does not make sense, I have other frozen rats in the freezer for the snakes and it doesn't make sense that apparently Choo is causing a problem when the other rats aren't. (I even had her smell the package of frozen rats, and I had both me and my boyfriend smell Choo.)
    What the heck do you guys think of this situation?!

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    Oh my goodness! This sounds like it sucks for you, though I must admit that I laughed while reading it.
    I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like she either has an issues with her nose, or she is a little bit dramatic! It could be hormonal as well!

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  • 07-28-2016, 01:28 AM
    Snoopyslim
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    :O What in the smell is going on with your mom? It does maybe sound like hormones or has she recently quit smoking? I guess it's good that she's blaming the neighbours now! Just go along with it I guess haha some people are incredibly smell sensitive...I cried over a super smelly rotten potatoe once but that was legit disgusting :rofl:

    Heyyy phatty, I am such a fan lol <3
  • 07-28-2016, 01:48 AM
    juggalosnakes
    I can kiss my normal blood on her head.. face to face. I haven't earned my matrix's trust that much yet.
  • 07-28-2016, 03:58 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Welcome to my life! Lmao That's just the way she is, everything she says is right, everything I say is wrong. She's always rude, and none of that is ever going to change, sadly. Nothin' hormonal about it!

    You know what's even more annoying?! Yelling at me and being rude as all heck and then 30 seconds later talking to me like it's all good! URGH. So she hauls us over to the hospital at 11pm because she's all concerned that it's some toxic chemical that's causing her to be unable to taste and only smell that nasty smell, we were there until three just for the doctor to say exactly what I expected! Nothing he can do because she is otherwise healthy.. he even frickin tested to make sure she wasn't going looney by asking her to tell him her name, the date and where she was. Sheesh -_- Meanwhile she was expecting them to run all these tests, like, YOU'RE FINE WOMAN.

    The neighbours are pretty gross when it comes to smells, but whatever she is smelling I do not smell all that often. Good Lord, give me strength!
  • 07-28-2016, 03:59 AM
    Fraido
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by juggalosnakes View Post
    I can kiss my normal blood on her head.. face to face. I haven't earned my matrix's trust that much yet.

    Not something I think I'll ever try, myself! 😅
  • 07-28-2016, 11:20 AM
    KaylaEliuk
    Re: Soon to be new guy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fraido View Post
    Welcome to my life! Lmao That's just the way she is, everything she says is right, everything I say is wrong. She's always rude, and none of that is ever going to change, sadly. Nothin' hormonal about it!

    You know what's even more annoying?! Yelling at me and being rude as all heck and then 30 seconds later talking to me like it's all good! URGH. So she hauls us over to the hospital at 11pm because she's all concerned that it's some toxic chemical that's causing her to be unable to taste and only smell that nasty smell, we were there until three just for the doctor to say exactly what I expected! Nothing he can do because she is otherwise healthy.. he even frickin tested to make sure she wasn't going looney by asking her to tell him her name, the date and where she was. Sheesh -_- Meanwhile she was expecting them to run all these tests, like, YOU'RE FINE WOMAN.

    The neighbours are pretty gross when it comes to smells, but whatever she is smelling I do not smell all that often. Good Lord, give me strength!

    I was thinking her problems with her nose may be hormonal. You know how when a person is pergnant they can smell everything, and a lot of things taste off?
    Notsuggesting that she is pregnant of course! Just thinking that a hormonal imbalance could maybe cause it.
    She should try seeing her GP and calmly talking about her symptoms, but she sounds like she won't listen if you suggest it.

    Good grief that must suck.

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