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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
I did have the surface temp at 100F for the last month she was on heat tape, but I felt that was excessive, even though she constantly hugged the heat. No belly burns or redness but oh well. I'll see how she does now.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
95 is the temperature both my Babies do best at.
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Female sunglow poss het anery
Yeah that didn't seem to be enough for her so I turned up the heat and noticed no changes. Now with overhead heat I keep it at 90F. I never had Cloud on belly heat but he digests just fine with overhead. None of my others snakes kept on belly heat showed any problems. I'll keep that in mind with my next boa constrictor and have some back up ambients in case.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
Its good to compare every house/snake room are so different...
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Well her pooping habits have stayed mostly the same (she did poop a little quicker last time though), but she went into shed quicker this time! I've also started staggering a jumbo adult mouse in every other feeding since the small adult mice no longer leave a bulge but the jumbos leave a larger bulge than I'm comfortable with. There's no scale separation, but it's a bit lumpy. Once the jumbos leave a smaller bulge, I'll order weaned rats. They're the closest equivalent size but they're actually a bit heavier and longer than jumbo mice, so it will be a size increase and I want her to put on some more size.
Looks like I forgot to post post-shed pictures from her last shed, sorry!
At first, a lot of the red in her side faded away, but she slowly gained it back before this current shed cycle.
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The pink showed up a little better here. Still not as bright red as it usually is.
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Eating her mouse upside down. And her little mustard-colored mustache, I love it.
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Her tail empty from a massive dump.
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1 day after her meal.
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A weird phase she went through. She's still tipping over her hides, but doesn't lay in them. >.>
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A weird feeding she had, where she ate a small adult mouse folded in half.
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She bit herself and actually go her teeth stuck, but she was able to free her teeth on her own. Only my two boa constrictors have bitten themselves (that I've seen).
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Relaxed after her meal.
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Usually she hangs out on her vine, but there's been a few times she crawled onto the handle of the tub and fallen to the ground when I opened it. That doesn't make for a happy snake. haha
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A massive dump she took. The second since she was put in her tub. Maybe 3 weeks since her last poop. So a bit faster, but not much.
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She's now 29" long, but that was before she went into shed. I'll measure he when she's done and see if she's grown any more.
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I had her in the bucket so I could dampen her bedding, but she really hates the bucket, and started zig-zagging and climbing the walls immediately after I put her in it. Since she behaved, I allowed her to sit on top of it, though. She just sat there nice and calm until I was done. It did still have some water left in the bottom from wetting River and Bud's bedding, so that may have made her uncomfortable, too.
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Her eating a jumbo mouse. I gave it to her as a test to see if she'd be ready for weaned rats, since the small adults were looking kinda small. She was showing signs of a shed cycle, but I've had so many false positives in the past I fed her anyway. Turns out she was in shed. :P
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Shed 100% confirmed:
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
Very nice snake and great read. Thanks.
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Nymeria officialy hit 3', at 13 months old! She's finally on rats, and has taken her first weaned rat, she's going to take her second in a few days if she doesn't show any more signs of shedding. She looks to be going into shed, but it's hard to tell at this point. Her sides aren't bubblegum pink like they have been, they're dulled out, and in the flash photos she's looking a bit milky. She weighed in at 272 grams empty.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
What's the difference between a sunglow and an albino? I see lots of both and also lots of sunglow albinos.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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What's the difference between a sunglow and an albino? I see lots of both and also lots of sunglow albinos.
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Albinos are a single gene animal, sunglows are a hypo and albino animal. Easiest way to tell them apart visually is that regular albinos tend to have white rings around their saddles, while sunglows will only have those rings around their actual tail, the part past their cloaca, the rest of their saddles have no defined borders. As adults, they also tend to fade out a lot more than sunglows, leaving just a tiny bit of orange in their tail, unless you get a nice linebred animal.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
So when someone says sunglow albino that is actually inaccurate and they are actually referring to a hypo albino?
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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So when someone says sunglow albino that is actually inaccurate and they are actually referring to a hypo albino?
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It's not inaccurate so much as redundant. Sunglow is hypo albino, so you can say sunglow or hypo albino, but sunglow albino is like saying hypo albino albino.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
Ahh. Thank you!
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No problem!
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
Oh, and not sure if I've said anything yet, but she is beautiful! 😊
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
What were you feeding her when you first got her? I'm feeding my girl rat pinkies right now, but someone keeps trying to tell me to feed her pups, the pinkies look like a good size to me and pups seen far too large right now.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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What were you feeding her when you first got her? I'm feeding my girl rat pinkies right now, but someone keeps trying to tell me to feed her pups, the pinkies look like a good size to me and pups seen far too large right now.
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I was feeding her mouse hoppers, which are actually a bit smaller than rat pinks in size, but about equal in weight. She got those every 10 days for the first couple months, then I fed her every 14 days. About the time she turned 8 months I think it was I bumped her to small adult mice because she simply would not shed and figured maybe she needed a bigger prey size. I prefer to feed mice until they can eat weaned rats, as a mouse of equal size is more nutritious and less fatty than a rat during this stage of development. A pinkie is barely more than fat, water, and skin. The exception is jumbo mice, but I'm feeding them since weaned rats are quite a bit heavier and a little bigger in size than jumbo mice. She's growing quickly so she should be able to take them any time now.
Until she shed for the second time after taking 6 months to shed, I fed her every 7 days, and once she looked like she was going to shed like normal I put her back on 14 days. I'll be moving her to 3 weeks when she turns 2.
(Edit to add she was also 80-150 grams during the time I was feeding hoppers.)
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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I was feeding her mouse hoppers, which are actually a bit smaller than rat pinks in size, but about equal in weight. She got those every 10 days for the first couple months, then I fed her every 14 days. About the time she turned 8 months I think it was I bumped her to small adult mice because she simply would not shed and figured maybe she needed a bigger prey size. I prefer to feed mice until they can eat weaned rats, as a mouse of equal size is more nutritious and less fatty than a rat during this stage of development. A pinkie is barely more than fat, water, and skin. The exception is jumbo mice, but I'm feeding them since weaned rats are quite a bit heavier and a little bigger in size than jumbo mice. She's growing quickly so she should be able to take them any time now.
Until she shed for the second time after taking 6 months to shed, I fed her every 7 days, and once she looked like she was going to shed like normal I put her back on 14 days. I'll be moving her to 3 weeks when she turns 2.
(Edit to add she was also 80-150 grams during the time I was feeding hoppers.)
Figured as much, the person I know is a power feeder. I feel bad for his snakes' inevitable shorter life. Thanks!
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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Figured as much, the person I know is a power feeder. I feel bad for his snakes' inevitable shorter life. Thanks!
Unfortunately that seems about the norm, it makes me quite upset seeing people do that to their animals. :( We have a responsibility as being the thing they depend on to properly care for our animals.
I'm not sure how old or how big your boa is, but it should be eating prey items roughly the size of her girth without leaving a large bulge. If she's just a baby, I would stick to mouse hoppers over rat pinks because of the points I mentioned above. I would move up once the next size up is small enough to leave just a small bulge, it's ok for the prey not to leave any bulge while you wait to move up.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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Unfortunately that seems about the norm, it makes me quite upset seeing people do that to their animals. :( We have a responsibility as being the thing they depend on to properly care for our animals.
I'm not sure how old or how big your boa is, but it should be eating prey items roughly the size of her girth without leaving a large bulge. If she's just a baby, I would stick to mouse hoppers over rat pinks because of the points I mentioned above. I would move up once the next size up is small enough to leave just a small bulge, it's ok for the prey not to leave any bulge while you wait to move up.
Yeah, she just came into this world on July 16th, so she's fresh still. I couldn't possibly even imagine her taking down a pup, honestly. So small... you can just barely see where the pinkie is when she's eaten.
I'll take your advice, I'll finish off the couple pinkies in the freezer and then switch to mouse hoppers.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
Yeah rat pups are huge for a baby...they're roughly the same size as an adult mouse or a small jumbo on the bigger end. She might be able to physically get one down depending on how large she is (some babies are born really tiny) but that doesn't mean she should be eating them. :/
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
It's all about getting big fast for some people, unfortunately.
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Last time I weighed Nymeria she was 363 grams, but that was a month or more ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if she's hit or nearly hit 400 by now. Like Tirel, I plan on extending the time between her feedings to get her ready to be fasted next winter. I've gone ahead and bumped her to weaned rats with the size she's gained and in preparation for the winter feedings. She's been getting kinda chubby on the jumbo mice, so hopefully this streamlines her body a bit.
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I need to weigh her because she took a poop a few days ago, but here's some photos from the other night.
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She's a nice thick girl, I think she may even have more girth than Tirel. And that's with her considerably more conservative feeding from a much younger age. Even though she's significantly shorter than Tirel atm, I'm thinking with her girth she may either eventually be a long adult or a nice stout girl. Either way she may have the size to give me some decent litters.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
I can't get over how orange she is! The colours are so dark and vibrant, whereas my girl is all yellow and light. She's lovely.
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Thanks! I can see why her breeder wanted her as a holdback, she's lost a bit of her vibrance but is still quite bright. Kinda sad her coralling isn't going anywhere though it's actually toned down in the last few sheds. :/
I love how her head spear almost looks burnt on her with the way it's fuzzy around the edges, and her head has a bunch of weird tones to it that I can't capture easily on the camera (mostly because she doesn't sit still).
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Well Nymeria has yet to grow any in length, she's been 3' even for about 4 months now, about as long as she's been on jumbo mice. I recently put her on weaned rats the feeding before last, and she appears to have grown slightly but I haven't officially measured her so I'm just going to say she's 3' even for now. She has continued to gain weight, but without significant length growth there's been no sheds. She was 418 last I weighed her iirc, I didn't record it because she still had a weaned rat in her but once she defecates I'll re-weigh her.
She's doing quite well on the monthly feedings so far, and should go back to 14 days sometime in January or February, and then once she turns 2 years in June I'll move her onto 3 weeks.
I had her out the day before, and she's looking more and more like a proper boa. :)
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She pooped and came in at 398 grams.
She balled up all nice for me. :P This is the first time I've ever seen a boa constrictor ball up like that, I think living next to Sanji she's picked up some of his habits...
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Nymeria still refuses to shed, I think she's going to pull another 6 month period of no shedding. I still need to pull her out and see if she's grown any, I just keep hoping she's getting ready to shed so I've been leaving her alone. :/
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
beautiful!!!! I love her eyes
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
Beautiful
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
[emoji7][emoji7] beautiful
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Female sunglow poss het anery
Shed be a nice a partner for my guy ...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f09452244e.jpg
Live it that thousands of miles apart they still have identical face markings .
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Gorgeous little girl! [emoji7]
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Gorgeous snake!
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
Thanks everyone! She still hasn't shed, but she has grown at least an inch! I measured her last month I think, or beginning of this month, and she'd grown an inch. I'm hoping that means she'll pick up her growth again now that she's on weaned rats. She didn't grow an inch during the ~4 months she was on jumbo mice. She did put on like 100-150 grams of weight during that time though.
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I hear albino x albino COULD increase the risk of infected eyes so that's why I ended up with Crona (anery motley 66% het Kahl) rather than the snow/moonglow I was originally planning. There's lots of debate on what causes it though, just wanted to be safe.
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Well, she's FINALLY in shed again, after like 9 months since her last shed cycle. That is, if I didn't forget to record a shed cycle between now and then. It's entirely possible, but I don't have any pictures of her in-shed or post shed so no way to know. :/
She didn't grow an inch during the time she was eating jumbo mice, but she has grown AT LEAST 7"-8" since her last shed cycle and 200+ grams. So it is weird that she's only shedding now.
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Her most recent weight was 422 grams, and I decided to borrow my mom's Nikon here to try to better capture her colors. I've found the Nikon is better than the Canon for the paler/orangey snakes when using flash. The Canon just emphasizes the red/brown too much in these snakes.
I cannot wait to see her new paint job, she should look even better; she's not looking her best having gone so long without a shed. lol (These photos are from last month, so before she went into shed.)
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So she's still very much blue, but I think I see some color popping underneath! I'm hoping this shed cycle will be one of the color enhancing sheds rather than the color de-enhancing ones. Sometimes she sheds and she gets more colorful, sometimes she sheds and she gets less colorful.
I want to buy her some RBI hides, since Crona could use them after she's done, but I'm not sure what size to get her. I also need to order some more XL/jumbo hides for the bigger snakes.
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Nice sunglow. Judging by the cottage cheese container, I would try RBI large or maybe XL hides hides. My 4'+ BP still fits in her large hide and she is 1680g. Caesar actually uses the large ones too and he's 5' and easily fits in it with a little bit of spare room haha. I just made Rosey and Vicky hides from dish tubs from Walmart. These https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite...Black/17011370 I just cut the top off of them to make them a little shorter to fit in AP cages better and then cut a half moon in it. Of course they never use hides now so it was all for nothing but I still have it in there as Vicky will sit on top of it sometimes.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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Nice sunglow. Judging by the cottage cheese container, I would try RBI large or maybe XL hides hides. My 4'+ BP still fits in her large hide and she is 1680g. Caesar actually uses the large ones too and he's 5' and easily fits in it with a little bit of spare room haha. I just made Rosey and Vicky hides from dish tubs from Walmart. These https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite...Black/17011370 I just cut the top off of them to make them a little shorter to fit in AP cages better and then cut a half moon in it. Of course they never use hides now so it was all for nothing but I still have it in there as Vicky will sit on top of it sometimes.
Lol Nymeria is only 422 grams and 3'. I was thinking more along the lines of a small hide box but I'm not sure of the real world size of it. Medium sized at most.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
I think I'm just going to go with the mediums. If she's too small she'll grow into them or they can go with Tirel.
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I use mediums for my dumerils and shes about 30" but I also got a nice layer of ReptiChips down so she usually combines the hide and substrate to hide in. I think alone, a medium hide might be slightly small for her. She's about 1" thick.
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Re: Female sunglow poss het anery
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I use mediums for my dumerils and shes about 30" but I also got a nice layer of ReptiChips down so she usually combines the hide and substrate to hide in. I think alone, a medium hide might be slightly small for her. She's about 1" thick.
If they are then Crona can use them. I have no clue how thick Nymeria is. She was exactly 37" or 38" last I measured her. She still fits in those cottage cheese containers and they're 3.5" wide at the top 4.5" at the bottom 3" tall, but she has to really squeeze in them and they nearly burst at the seams. It's more comfy to just tip them over.
Sanji has the same sized hides and even he fits in them still. Lol Same deal with Nymeria, though, he takes up every inch of them now but he does fit into them a little easier than Nymeria even though he's a few inches over 3.5'.
I think Bud is in the large hides and he's 1250-1300 grams and they're very large on him. But I think I already shared that photo of him in one with you in River's thread. Lol
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Lol I must have been a bad parent then. I gave larges to Vicky and Rosey when they were small lol. Oh well, they made use of them and seem happy now except Vicky is pissy now because she was supposed to eat last Friday but I have bumped her to 3 weeks instead of 2 weeks. last night, I left her door open since she was messing around. I then sat down to watch tv and when I looked to check on her, she was on top of the cage stack sitting on top looking down the back of the cages haha. I picked her up and put her back in her cage and she again climbed up top and sat on top of the stack. She was being a brat last night. kept holding my wrist with her tail and not letting go, standing up tall so I couldn't get her in her cage. Finally she got tired and curled up in the back of the cage and went to sleep lol.
On a side note, I'm floored how quiet Caesar still is. Its been 6 days now on that large rat and he is really mellow. I'm thinking I might get to Friday like this so I'll be able to just feed him a large rat every 10 days if this holds out. Or maybe even longer. We'll see when he starts being a brat.
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I do start the hides out rather large on them, but they haven't had upgrades in a year or two so they're really due for some. I'm still milking River's xl or jumbos which they are. :P Wonder how long they'll last? 9'? 10'? It's starting to get ridiculous. She first got her hides at 5.5' I think. She looks like she shouldn't be able to fit but she does.
I also don't want to take up too much space in their tubs, there will be a lot more room for larger hides in their 4'x2's. I want to get 1-2 more T12's by end of summer and maybe River's 8'x3'/8'x4'. I'd rather wait to get River's until we move though, since I won't have to move that monster and I might have a bigger snake room, depends on what we find. But it's going to be awhile before we move again it's starting to look like.
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I hear ya. I'm surprised Caesar can fit in large hides with room to spare. Yeah I was going to do more T10s but I ended up just doing 2 T8s and i'll get 1 more next month. Then probably another one for the Pucallpa when I get him. Then later I'll just get 4 T25s for Rosey, Vicky, Caesar and the Pucallpa. I'm surprised also how small of a space a big boa can fit in lol. Most of the time Rosey is either curled up on the UTH side taking up about 1/4 the cage length and about half the cage width. Vicky curls up and takes up about 1/5 the cage length and 1/3 the cage width. Surprised how little room they take haha. Now when they are hungry, they utilize all the cage including the shelf lol.
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