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  • 06-16-2014, 12:05 AM
    bumblebee1028
    A thermostat is a must for regulating the heat pad! Even a cheap Hydrofarm thermostat is better than nothing: http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-MTPR...arm+thermostat

    Walmart has inexpensive digital Acurite thermometer/hygrometers for only about $12. They are much more accurate than the stick-on dial ones.
  • 06-16-2014, 12:20 AM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LGray23 View Post
    It's nearly impossible to get an accurate surface temperature reading from a Petco temperature guage. I can assure you that the heat pad not being regulated is much much hotter than 75 degrees on the surface where the ball actually is. I would invest in thermostats for your reptiles before you end up with a burn.

    I guess I didn't think much of it because she very rarely spends any time of the heating pad, always soaking in her water bowl....

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  • 06-16-2014, 12:21 AM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bumblebee1028 View Post
    A thermostat is a must for regulating the heat pad! Even a cheap Hydrofarm thermostat is better than nothing: http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-MTPR...arm+thermostat

    Walmart has inexpensive digital Acurite thermometer/hygrometers for only about $12. They are much more accurate than the stick-on dial ones.

    thank you I will probably order tonight :-D

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  • 06-16-2014, 06:15 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Okay, let me educate you a little more here.
    The thermometer and hydrometer you have are junk and doing you no good.
    You need to get your husbandry fixed before you can rescue anything, until then you are only adding to the stress of the animal.
    To properly use belly heat IT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED!!!!
    Could be a good reason she is having problems in her enclosure?
    You didn't "think" about it and I told you that belly burns don't heal that quick, care to wonder why?

    http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps323f13c8.jpg
    This is TWO years after I got this girl from an idiot that thought all they had to do was add more substrate to lower the temperature. He never thought about the fact that a snake can burrow until this happened.

    Switch to overheat heating OR get a thermostat to regulate the UTH and real thermometers to monitor it.
  • 06-16-2014, 10:42 AM
    ReagansViolent
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    What might help you Check the temperature of your hot and cold side of the enclosure is an infrared thermometer. It will give you the surface temps. Hang in there and keep trying to give your snake the best husbandry. I would have been freaking out seeing all these things combined too, but I would have no idea how to treat most of these concerns and I am no Where near ready to rescue a bp. Good luck I hope the end result will be a healthy happy snake and snake family

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  • 06-20-2014, 12:26 AM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Update:
    Sylvia is doing GREAT!!
    She shed and two eye caps came with it.
    No more laying on her back.
    We tried feeding her a live quail... And she took it!!
    She just had her first bowel movement IN her tank!!
    Happy happy happy parents!!!!!!!

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  • 06-20-2014, 06:04 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by meghanbu30 View Post
    We tried feeding her a live quail... And she took it!!

    A what???? :eyepoppin
  • 06-20-2014, 06:10 AM
    sho220
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by meghanbu30 View Post
    We tried feeding her a live quail... And she took it!!

    Pretty cool. I'd love to see video of that.
  • 06-20-2014, 08:25 AM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Don't have a video this time but I did get a pick when she struck
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/20/guzu6yze.jpg

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  • 06-20-2014, 08:37 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Do you happen to breed quail or have someone with availability?

    I would just hate to see the next post that your ball wont eat and we are thinking mice or rats instead of her being imprinted on a different source.
  • 06-20-2014, 12:03 PM
    NH93
    There's just too much for me to say about this.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ius)-Caresheet

    That is a general care sheet from this forum. PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRELY.
  • 06-20-2014, 09:02 PM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NH93 View Post
    There's just too much for me to say about this.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ius)-Caresheet

    That is a general care sheet from this forum. PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRELY.

    GENERAL is the key word.
    yes their general diet is rodents, foul is a perfectly exceptable replacement for a picky eater.

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  • 06-20-2014, 09:03 PM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Do you happen to breed quail or have someone with availability?

    I would just hate to see the next post that your ball wont eat and we are thinking mice or rats instead of her being imprinted on a different source.

    Yes we have someone with availability very close, he is a friend and pet shop owner whom we go to for rat pups, mice and now quail.
    he has been breeding for quite some time so quail are always readily available

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  • 06-20-2014, 09:40 PM
    Zombree
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Speaking of the flying or winged variety of animals ;P My fiance wants to breed chickens and the end result will be mounds of adorable, cute, pecking chics.

    I want to feed them to my snakes :l

    Not all of my snakes. Just my boa constrictors when they are eventually large enough. It will be a pretty cheap food source since he'll be breeding tons of them. I know ball pythons can get pretty emotionally attatched (kidding) to their food, but are BCC and BCI's the same way? I know this is off base, but I saw the comment about a quail and I was like hm, maybe I should ask.
    Thanks in advance! :)
  • 06-20-2014, 09:42 PM
    ReagansViolent
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Do you happen to breed quail or have someone with availability?

    I would just hate to see the next post that your ball wont eat and we are thinking mice or rats instead of her being imprinted on a different source.

    you bring up something that has always puzzled me. in the wild don't balls get a choice a variety? why do we have to scent take rats with mice? why doesn't instinct say "fooooooodddd".

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  • 06-20-2014, 09:45 PM
    Zombree
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ReagansViolent View Post
    you bring up something that has always puzzled me. in the wild don't balls get a choice a variety? why do we have to scent take rats with mice? why doesn't instinct say "fooooooodddd".

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    I think rats are the healthiest, I think. Maybe balls are just born knowing to go for the good food as opposed to unhealthy or fattier alternatives? I am not sure.
    If only humans could choose the salad over the guinea pig as well. The world we would live in xD
  • 06-20-2014, 10:33 PM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quail is actually higher in protein.

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  • 06-20-2014, 10:34 PM
    meghanbu30
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zombree View Post
    Speaking of the flying or winged variety of animals ;P My fiance wants to breed chickens and the end result will be mounds of adorable, cute, pecking chics.

    I want to feed them to my snakes :l

    Not all of my snakes. Just my boa constrictors when they are eventually large enough. It will be a pretty cheap food source since he'll be breeding tons of them. I know ball pythons can get pretty emotionally attatched (kidding) to their food, but are BCC and BCI's the same way? I know this is off base, but I saw the comment about a quail and I was like hm, maybe I should ask.
    Thanks in advance! :)

    yes they can eat chickens as well, just watch the size of the check to the girth of your snake.

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  • 06-20-2014, 10:41 PM
    Zombree
    Re: Anyone every seen a BP do this??!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by meghanbu30 View Post
    Quail is actually higher in protein.

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    I believe it. Honestly I wanted to feed my ball pythons all kinds of things before I was told about their picky nature. I thought to myself, baby rabbits are full of practically everything and have 2x the amount of a rat. But when I looked into it, there were little tiny, key components missing out on every animal I sought as a food source. Components they needed in their diet. Someone finally told me that yes, some animals are better in some aspects than rats, but when it comes down to it- rats are all they need. So risking getting them something optional would just get me into trouble. But if you say your animal was having a hard time eating and the quail got her craving, then awesome.
    You are the parent so it's your discretion. And all the better if they are readily available.

    Crap. Now I want to get some Quail egg shooters from a sushi bar. This whole thread has me craving.
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