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I wanna see the Platinum outside!! :D

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Here is my sunfire retic.
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I wanna see the Platinum outside!! :D

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lol, she's been in shed lately and just dropped her skin. But she has a few spots that stuck. When I get some time though with her mid week, I'll get her outside ;-)

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Even though it's the size of a corn snake this is much much worse. Super dwarf pure. Anery male. You have been warned.

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Did you give him an enema or what? Man that's alot of poop!

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Did you give him an enema or what? Man that's alot of poop!

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Welcome to the wonderful world of retics! Where you get to clean up poop everyday :)

Wouldn't trade it for the world haha.

There are other really big snakes out there, burms, anacondas, African rocks, but nothing poos quite like a retic.

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Normal destruction lol. . . this was just during a shed, so he was a little bit more backed up. But that's about the normal amount of fluids that come out of a retic.

Wow.. That pic should become part of a standard "form answer" post for you when anyone posts they want a retic. I know this helps dissuade me lol.

You sir, are a dedicated herper to keep such amazing pooping machines. :D

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Wow.. That pic should become part of a standard "form answer" post for you when anyone posts they want a retic. I know this helps dissuade me lol.

You sir, are a dedicated herper to keep such amazing pooping machines. :D

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Ya they get pretty bad. Here is my standard form answer pic lol:
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Here's what the room looks like at the moment! Decided to do an update pic of the set ups.

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Even though it's the size of a corn snake this is much much worse. Super dwarf pure. Anery male. You have been warned.

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Normal destruction lol. . . this was just during a shed, so he was a little bit more backed up. But that's about the normal amount of fluids that come out of a retic.

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Ya they get pretty bad. Here is my standard form answer pic lol:
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I was pondering 1 SD Retic at some point in the future(yes just one). Maybe not so much now. ;)

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Here's what the room looks like at the moment! Decided to do an update pic of the set ups.

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Room looks awesome. :gj:

I need a retic lol

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I need a retic lol

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That's what she said!

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That's what she said!

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Zing.

I wrestled an anaconda for three days once ... Then I realized I was just .... never mind. . .

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Nice looking setup. Do you have additional space to expand into as your tics mature (and need bigger cages)? Also, who are the cages by in the bottom right (the white ones)?

Most of the tics are in their adult caging with the exception of a few. They are either in 6x2 or 4x2 visions (4x2 Visions are the ones on the right and the 6x2 are on the left.) Male retics do well in Vision 400, while female mainlands can live their entire life in a vision 632. Thankfully I only have one female mainland, the rest are dwarf / super dwarf and are in their lifetime caging :-)

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Couple from the tubs last night. The titanium took her first small rat. And the sunstripe is on mediums :) (sunstripe was just in the tub for holding)

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Thanks for the info! For some reason, I always assumed that you had scads and scads of retics growing out (in the racks in your room pic), not sure why I thought your collection was all or nearly all retics *shrug*. Great looking sunstripe btw!

So I assume by some of your pictures, the pics with clean paper towels are a rarity as opposed to a commonality? :D


I can deal with the poo, but the gallon of urine I think would be a bit much for me to handle... holy geez. I couldn't imagine that mess. Have you tried another substrate like aspen, does it absorb better?

I switched to aspen to avoid cleaning up daily . . . but found out this led to deposits of unseen urine that ended up building up to the point that the room smelled like ammonia 24/7. I started to spot check the aspen twice daily, but when I led tours, this was out of the question since I'd leave them for 5-8 days and they'd have to self sustain a little better. This still worked nicer for when I had to leave them for a week, but the clean up after took hours and hours even with a shop vacuum. Paper is just so easy to spot check, quick to clean, and I get to use f10 on the entire enclosure when I clean it every other day or so. This ensures that there is zero issues with bacteria growth, ammonia smells, and so forth.

when I stopped thawing rabbits in water, the urine levels dropped significantly with the big girls. Now they only dump loads of urine maybe every other week, or just lighter amounts twice or so a week. The younger ones still get water thawed rats, but I'm trying to dry them to keep urine down.

I go through about 6 rolls of paper towels a week just in cleaning up after the retics and those are only used as liner in about 5 tubs, the rest are on unprinted newspaper.

That room is beautiful lol


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My girlfriend has an infatuation with lavender. It started with the retic hatchlings we saw at a reptile show (the mainland hatchlings, not Dwarf or SD). She's been all about Lavender since then. I will point her to this thread for the damage control required for one of these guys / gals. I also don't know that she'd be ready for a retic's intelligence or size - and I don't know how far along SD's are on Lavender Albino's.


I wanted to note your snake room is incredibly awesome. Something similar in my future hopefully someday. How are you heating that room - is it operating on a separate, smaller system from the rest of your house? I saw something on the ceiling but don't know if that is a heat exchanger or just a light fixture, heh. Regardless, the room looks awesome and a great use of space.

Lavender is in a lot of dwarf projects, including dwarf lavender genetic striped (I will be producing those in the next year or so from a super tiny female if all goes right). And standalone Lav Dwarfs are really easy to get. 62.5% SD Lavs are out there, but they are still quite costly, and will require about 2-3k in spending to acquire one.

The room is in an apartment separate from the main house. The apartment has its on central heating / ac and thermostat that is set to 78 which keeps the ambient at 78 year round. The cages themselves have undertank heaters for the retics / racks, then the arboreal cages have Radiant heat panels controlling their perches (Morelia). The ceiling has a fan that circulates the air, and it looks weird because my head ran into the light fixture and busted it a few months back, and I'm still trying to find a replacement dome . . . *sigh*

How do you thaw the rabbits out and heat them up now then Cody?

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They are heated by air, I leave them in a dry tub for 24 hours, then put them in a plastic bag that is puncture free and run warm water over it to raise the temperature of the rabbit above room temperature to give off a better signal. Works excellent.

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I'm still interested in them but that is a lot of waste. The metabolism is obviously much faster than a boa constrictor's.

Do you breed "normal" SDs and dwarfs or just morphs?

The snake room is very classy looking. That kind of room gives the hobby a good name!!

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I'm still interested in them but that is a lot of waste. The metabolism is obviously much faster than a boa constrictor's.

Do you breed "normal" SDs and dwarfs or just morphs?

The snake room is very classy looking. That kind of room gives the hobby a good name!!

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Even the products of my pure x 50% sd will generate normal but they will be het for Anery poss het albino (therefor poss het snow).

They do metabolize extremely fast. a 4 lb rabbit being digested in a matter of 2-3 days, with them looking for food on day 4 is insane enough. But they generally urinate every other day, and release fecal 1-2 times a week. Of course this depends solely on which side of the cage they are sticking to (hot or cold).

Appreciate the room remarks. I do work quite hard ensuring its almost always presentable.

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Even the products of my pure x 50% sd will generate normal but they will be het for Anery poss het albino (therefor poss het snow).

They do metabolize extremely fast. a 4 lb rabbit being digested in a matter of 2-3 days, with them looking for food on day 4 is insane enough. But they generally urinate every other day, and release fecal 1-2 times a week. Of course this depends solely on which side of the cage they are sticking to (hot or cold).

Appreciate the room remarks. I do work quite hard ensuring its almost always presentable.

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Well it pays off. Any legislation against snakes like this is somewhat combatted by being educated and presenting something aesthetically pleasing. The room is safe, secure and well kept.

The way you present the animals in your videos is fantastic and IF I were to look for a SD or a male dwarf I'd feel pretty comfortable with your adult size estimate. As a matter of fact, I never even considered one of these until after I saw your YOUTube video.

It's quite a service to people looking at the species. Too often people get one and are over their heads due to size and then the issues start.

Do regular TIGERs come in the SD model? As far as morphs go that is my favorite. Other than that normal is my bag.

Keep the pictures coming.

Tigers are in the 75% range right now. Jason Reed has some knock out 75% SD Tiger stuff, Kris Brown from Vital Exotics has 62.5% SD Tigers that are nice as well. Travis kubes has F2 50% SD Tigers (both of mine are these lines from him).

Things to note:

Tiger was the gene that kind of brought docility to the species. The original wild caught tigers just had this nature about them that was in general pleasing and not like many of the wild caught lines before them.

Tiger also came from a large mainland line. Many record lengths are held by tigers. As a result, this gene is suggested to influence length - thus SD line tigers be longer than an SD pairing that did not include any tiger blood (siblings included obviously). That being said, my 50% SD Tiger girl who turned 2 a couple months back now, she has stopped gaining length at any reasonable rate, and is now adding girth and seemingly capped around 8'. Unlike my platinum which has the same % SD (50) but is from a slightly different local, and is a first generation cross and not a 50% x 50% cross like my tiger. The platinum girl is just a couple months older, and is 10' roughly, again for what its worth.

I'm not too far from Vital Exotics and I met Kris at an expo. I like his stuff from what I see. I would love a 7 foot SD tiger male maybe something the size of your female at 8 would be manageable as well.

If you get a chance post a few pics of that one.

Thanks

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Goldenchild hanging out with me this morning.

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Goldenchild in his cage

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Super tiger super dwarf in hers

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Love that goldenchild!

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They both look so crabby, love it!

They stay pretty skinny too, so even though it's like "oh Damn a 7 foot male!" they aren't usually much more girthy than a corn snake. If it gets a bit bigger it could add girth too but you'll not see a retic that's small but with a anaconda or burm body shape, the snake would have to be overweight I'd think.

EDIT: oops I forgot to quote him, but I was just adding to what gio had said :)

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So question... if a retic is 31.25% SD and 37.5% Dwarf and male how big would you estimate he'd be? 5-7' and how thick? Like pop can thick and eating large rats as an adult?

Will the smaller retics still do that kind of excretory damage or is that just another bonus of playing with the big kids?

I'm just trying to get an idea. Thanks!

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So question... if a retic is 31.25% SD and 37.5% Dwarf and male how big would you estimate he'd be? 5-7' and how thick? Like pop can thick and eating large rats as an adult?

Will the smaller retics still do that kind of excretory damage or is that just another bonus of playing with the big kids?

I'm just trying to get an idea. Thanks!

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I'm not an expert but I've talked to Cody about them a lot. A dwarf male, 100% pure dwarf male, gets to be 8', generally speaking. Pure SD males usually 5'-6'. (from what I've learned from Cody).

All retics eat a lot so I'm sure the smaller ones piss and crap as often, obviously just not the same amounts though haha.

I too am really wanting a retic so I've been absorbing as much knowledge as I can haha :D

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Yeah that mostly. The mixes of dwarf and SD stuff can be tricky. The mainland will still give influence. If say 7' is a safe estimate. However, I'd still suggest to be prepared for up to a 10' male l. Thickness would be maybe a pop can

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Here's my beautiful little gal
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Platinum taking a cruise after her bath and cage clean

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"Honey, what's for breakfast tomorrow?"
"Still deciding, I was thinking sausage and scrambled eggs."

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You are so disgusting. Lol.

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Ok, you have to have a kick A macro lens. I want to see an awesome eye shot. Please..... :)

a few of my boy growing up. :gj:


the day we got him (2-16-13):
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growing up:
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his first rabbit:
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him today (a little over 10 ft):
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He's a pretty boy creepin!

Great progression pics of such an amazing animal. Do you happen to know dates of the "growing up" shots?


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Great progression pics of such an amazing animal. Do you happen to know dates of the "growing up" shots?


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14 Here ya go Rob- 8/10/13 for chair pics

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=200495

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14 Here ya go Rob- 8/10/13 for chair pics

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Thanks, I should remember I did comment on it!


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