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  • 09-23-2006, 10:40 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    I have a convert!!!! when my mom found out about my reptiles it was all the same cleche's. OOOOO a lizard and that just gross you keep snakes. So after Katrina I had to move back in with mom and dad's place till I found a house. Well mom got to where she loved Spot (leo). So the other day she pulled me aside and started asking me what they cost what the setup is like to get and so on.. I think my mom wants a leopard gecko. And my dad got to where he like to watch Oprheus eat. He said they still creepd him out but that it was like having a living nature show in the house. And found it very interesting :fest: :partyon: :sweeet:

    chalk one up to the Herper he converted a fuzzie only lover
  • 09-23-2006, 11:24 AM
    Sapphire7
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Anonymous
    Uhh Ball Pythons don't live for 40 years.

    I believe the oldest Bp was 47 yr and a few months before it died. And just because you didnt have a snake to live that long doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

    I got my husband to be into snake, and he is now thinking of breeding our rtb and retic. He fell in love with snakes when we first met when he saw my emerald tree boa. But soon realized just because they're pretty, not all will be nice. lol. A few yr later...he got his first snake, which was a python (forget what type) and it lived with us for 9 yrs untill he insisted on going on vacation and believing the snake will be fine without the heating on (this was during the summer and in our house it gets quite hot and humid) We fed him a large rat before we left, and 3wks later we came home to find the snake escaped (So we believe). And havent found him since. That was almost 10 yrs ago. And I find it hard to believe a large python is still living in our house somewhere. But he may still be in our basement. Me and my husband refrain from going down there, HUGE spiders!!! We tried to go down there to see if our snake was down there but this gigantic black/brown spider was soo upset with us being down there is actually chased us away!!:eek: And all we have down there are boxes and its mainly used for storage (JUNK!) and our winters are quite cold and I do not believe the snake could've lived during the winter.

    Also I converted some of my relatives to likE reptiles. Maybe not snakeS, but iggys and gekos.
  • 12-13-2006, 11:01 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Well I have an update on this one. I work at a bank as many of you know. So last night I hosted the metro christmas party at my home. Well everyone knows I have snakes. We were all sitting around talking and my BCM (Banking Center manager) and 3 first vis presidents are all standing in the corner talking. then I here the BCM say Ed lets see one of your snakes. Of course everyone was like NO DON"T BRING THAT THING OUT HERE! I told them that I would any one that wanted to see them could come to the herp room and I would show them.

    I like five people in the herp room and take out Orpheus (my 04 male big boy 1300 grams) so one girl wanted to hold him so I showed her how and she LOVED IT! They all took turns holding him and asking questionsw. Then the question about my rack came up I told them I was planning on breeding them and showed the pics on my computer of all the morphs I am getting and the offspring poss, and so on. I took two orders one for a Spider and one for a Jungle Pastel. :carrot:

    See teach people that they are not dangerous hissing bit you at the drop of a hat critters and they might even want one..

    Thanks for letting me vent
  • 12-13-2006, 11:05 AM
    Laooda
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    That's great ED!!! Love to hear stories like that!!! :sunny: And congrats on your new ones!!!! When are you getting them???
  • 12-13-2006, 11:08 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Laooda
    That's great ED!!! Love to hear stories like that!!! :sunny: And congrats on your new ones!!!! When are you getting them???

    i have my bandede female getting delivered today to the branch sometime. And am picking the other four up saturday from Sean At www.exoticsbynature.com


    I am so excited.
  • 12-13-2006, 11:12 AM
    Laooda
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    YEA!!! I'm sure we'll see pix?!?!?! lol
  • 12-13-2006, 11:31 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Laooda
    YEA!!! I'm sure we'll see pix?!?!?! lol

    Here you go

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=39778
  • 12-13-2006, 12:44 PM
    Snakeman
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sapphire7
    Me and my husband refrain from going down there, HUGE spiders!!! We tried to go down there to see if our snake was down there but this gigantic black/brown spider was soo upset with us being down there is actually chased us away!!:eek:

    lol its kinda weird how some people arent afraid of BIG snakes, but they're afraid of a LITTLE spider.luckily for me i dont fear animals that easily.
    as for the topic....here's my story: my parents(especially my mom) were afraid of snakes and somehow i couldnt convince them the way i did when it came to getting my first tarantula.so...eventually i walked into a petco and saw BP's on manager's special for $30!! luckily i still had some graduation money and i spent it on my new BP and some other snake supplies. my parents NEVER found out i had a snake in the house(even though it was in the living room "covered up").but once he shed for me for the 1st time, i took the shed skin and showed to my parents and played the "guess what this is" game.my dad figured it out almost immediately and my mom was puzzled.so i showed them my snake and my mom screamed and ran out the back screaming(lol).ever since then my parents have been keeping their eye out on my snakes to see if the snake escaped,but everytime their snuggled in their homes.my other family members dont like snakes either but i have a couple of friends that dont mind snakes.
  • 12-14-2006, 08:27 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    My family just takes it in stride; they know I am the oddball of the bunch and could never be comtent with just a cat or goldfish; I need a cat, goldfish, and snakes (among other things...) They just smile and roll their eyes.
    BUT.. think of the advantages snakes have versus "cuddly" pets that people usually don't mind.. No noises. Little waste matter/odor. Rare feedings (compared to daily-feeders that most people are used to.)
  • 12-14-2006, 08:30 PM
    ChiliCat
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    My fiance likes my little baby corns, he will hold those guys all the time without getting freaked out. He doesn't not like my ball python that much...

    He says its because of how she squeezes and moves...its creepy they don't have legs and she moves when he touches her...well most animals move...duh.
  • 12-14-2006, 08:58 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    It does not bother me when people take the time to at least touch or watch them, and they don't like them afterwards; there are certain animals I can't stand myself. it is the mindless fear that people have when they never took the time to research something or see how it acts, they just fear it or are grossed out by it.. ya know?
  • 12-15-2006, 03:32 PM
    monk90222
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    My wife hates the snakes and the rats. Cool thing is, she "allows" me to have as many as I want.My 8 year old son, doesn't really like them, but trys real hard to.....
  • 12-16-2006, 04:31 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Since my earlier post, my mom, sister and niece came to visit. My sister was okay w/ the critters (esp. since they spent the night w/the rats in Robin's room while I was at work). Amy, my niece thought the diff. snakes were really cool and wanted to / got to hold a selection of them...Hera, Zeus, Flurry, Pinky, Apollo and Wrigley. Amy was a part of Zoo Corp, but now works with kids at ZooCamp part time in Seattle, so doesn't have any fear of the snakes.


    My mom didn't hold any of them, but she wasn't as cool about them as I had expected. When I was teaching them the difference btwn Hera/Wrigley's normal, Pinky's pastel and Apollo's hypo pastel colors and patterns, she was pretty attentive. She did comment tho how she wasn't surprised that I got so deep into snakes, seeing as how much I enjoyed them when I was a student @ TVCC (our local community college where I did workstudy in the biology dept caring for the rats, mice and snakes for the prof. < I was living at home at the time...I was 16-17. >)

    So that part of it was all pretty nice. Allison, my sister, took a bunch of dig. pics of Amy holding the snakes, so that was fun, too. :D
  • 12-16-2006, 04:33 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monk90222
    My wife hates the snakes and the rats. Cool thing is, she "allows" me to have as many as I want.My 8 year old son, doesn't really like them, but trys real hard to.....

    Sorry to hear that things aren't as positive in your family. :( Maybe your son will learn to like them and they'll grow on your wife!
  • 12-16-2006, 05:12 AM
    Blu Mongoose
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    My ex inlaws said if I didn't get rid of the snakes they wouldn't visit in the future. When they returned 4 months later I had a large bp in a huge display tank next to the bed in the guest bedroom. By the way, did I mention they are ex inlaws??:carrot: :rofl: :rofl:
  • 12-16-2006, 08:48 AM
    monk90222
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sweety314
    Sorry to hear that things aren't as positive in your family. :( Maybe your son will learn to like them and they'll grow on your wife!

    Not likely....but that just makes my snake room and rat room a safe haven for me!! My son is coming around..he holds the snakes and actually one of them are "his."...
  • 12-16-2006, 11:55 AM
    jotay
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Most of my family thinks I am nuts anyway so the fact I keep snakes only enforces it. It doesn't keep them from visting so no harm no foul.

    My bro-in-law is totally freaked out by snakes but now he always inquires on how Ozzy is doing which is huge for him.

    It's just me and my son at the house and he is cool with them so that is all that really matters.

    Heck alot of my friends and family have pets and kids for that matter I am not to fond of and it doesn't stop me from visiting. If I can get over it so can they :)
  • 12-16-2006, 12:53 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blu Mongoose
    My ex inlaws said if I didn't get rid of the snakes they wouldn't visit in the future. When they returned 4 months later I had a large bp in a huge display tank next to the bed in the guest bedroom. By the way, did I mention they are ex inlaws??:carrot: :rofl: :rofl:

    hahahahaha ex eh?
  • 12-18-2006, 05:38 AM
    Shadowspider
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Hmm, loved ones and my pets...heh. :D My mom is afraid of everything under the sun that has less than 2 or more than 4 legs...as is my sister, my brothers aren't. My inlaws are TERRORFIED of my tarantulas (especially my mother in law). She flat refuses to step foot into the house, which is fine by me, I don't want her in my house anyway.
    *I* use to be terrorfied of anything that had more than 4 legs and could walk, upside down on my celing.....until I met my husband.
    No, he doesn't have more than 4 legs and can't walk on the celing...or at least not that I'm going to admit to. :P
    Snakes I've always loved and never feared but arachnids, that was a different story. My husband got me into tarantulas, scorpions and whatnot and now I think I'm one of those who loves them even more than he does.

    My family doesn't even live in the same state that I do, except my sister, but I never see her or any of them anyway...so I don't really care.
    They don't know I have snakes...hmmmmmmmm ;)
  • 12-18-2006, 01:58 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Most of the people in my family think its a disgusting SLIMY mean animal that will bite u if u touch it :mad::colbert:

    my sister will never go near it, my bro will touch it, my dad wont go near it, my mom will hold it with no problem
  • 12-20-2006, 12:35 PM
    Cortana
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    My mom hates snakes. I haven't told her yet that I have one, so when they visit for Christmas it should be interesting. My husband said not to even tell her- just say it is a lizard hiding in the tank:) . I am hoping I can get her to see that snakes are nice -she kills the poor little gardener snakes she finds in her yard:( :mad: ...
  • 12-20-2006, 12:56 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Ok, I've got one that tops it all. My friend got a corn snake and her mother flipped out. Now she needs somewhere to house it for a while and my other friend shellie mentioned to her father about holding the snake for a bit and her father WENT OFF!

    He began saying the following:

    "I never want a snake in this house, ever. God condemns snakes and I don't want that evil in my house. A snake tempted Eve to eat from the tree and that is why God hates them. They are cursed and evil."

    He basically went on and on about how evil snakes were. I told my friend "A snake did not tempt Eve. The devil disguised himself as a snake, so its not the snakes' fault. Its like punishing a whole people for the misdeeds of another. It just doesn't make sense."

    Personally, I think that's like punishing a whole flock of sheep just because a wolf in sheeps clothing did something bad. The man is a total tard. Its amazing how people can be so ignorant about snakes.
  • 12-20-2006, 01:26 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    "I never want a snake in this house, ever. God condemns snakes and I don't want that evil in my house. A snake tempted Eve to eat from the tree and that is why God hates them. They are cursed and evil."
    This is my all time fav. excuse. If people did away with all of the things that did bad in the bible we would be in a really messed up world. Noah's staff turned into the cobra in order to persuade Pharo to free the jewish slaves. Exodus 4:1-5, Exodus 7: 7-16.



    Does the Bible state that snakes are evil?






    Nope. If you glance through the verses, you'll never find anyplace where snakes are specifically called evil critters. Rather, the snake is used as a symbol for everything from Satan to alcohol, from lying to wisdom. Quite a range. Symbolism is used to make it easier to understand something, and does not denote inherent characteristics. For example, the dove is used as a symbol for the Holy Spirit in the New Testament, but there's nothing particularly holy about a bird. At different times, the lion is used positively ("Lion of Judah") and negatively (Satan going about like a "roaring lion").

    Beyond the sundry references to snakes is a major thematic symbolism stretching through the scriptures. In Genesis, after Satan shows up in the guise of a reptile, the snake is given a specific representative purpose: the effects of sin. Just as the snake was "separated" from its prior position (considered an enemy of man, the Hebrew expression "eating dust" being a reference to being made low), so man was separated from his prior relationship with God. This separation is not necessarily permanent, though. Symbolically, we see a representation of a metal serpent on a pole used to save Israel in the desert, foreshadowing the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The Israelites who gazed on the brass serpent were saved from snake-bite; Further, we see the inclusion of the snake in the future physical kingdom of God, restoring its position in nature. Just as the serpent is restored, so is man's relationship to God eternally restored, for those who purpose to become disciples of Christ.

    So, in effect, the snake is far from being an evil outcast in Biblical theology. It is, rather, a powerful representation of the primary theme in Christianity.


    Tell them to put that in their pipe and smoke it.. :carrot:
  • 12-20-2006, 06:01 PM
    Shadowspider
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Ahh, the whole evil snake thing. LOL
    I had some SDA people here at the house (once) and they asked about our tarantulas...so we told them a bit about them and mentioned our snake in the bedroom. They started in on how evil snakes are...basically the same type thing that Jay posted.
    I commented on how much I loved my little Ketzel (that's her name) and how I LOVE giving her kisses....they've never been back. :P

    ~Edit~
    No, wait, they did come back once....but wouldn't even step foot onto the porch.
  • 12-20-2006, 06:36 PM
    Kizerk
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    well my mom isn't aware that i have 3 snakes in the house, but my dad and grandma knows, but i'm sure she'll like them when she discovers them, it was like that with the dog and the rabbit
  • 12-20-2006, 10:10 PM
    Wholuvsyah
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    We just had a really awful storm causing power outages across the state. I

    had to take my snake to work and hide him under my desk. (Carrying case and
    heat pad) Well I was really worried I would have a problem. Word through
    my office mate got out that I had a snake with me and all of a sudden people
    who "hated" snakes got a good look at their first ball python. My weirdo snake
    was as equally interested in them as well. Everybody checked each other out
    and after a thousand questions later Cyrus was deemed cool. Everyone wants
    to know if I am going to bring him back. " )
    Not something I would really want to do but I am impressed with my coworkers
    for excepting something that was clearly out of the norm for them.
  • 12-20-2006, 10:36 PM
    Shadowspider
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Now THAT'S cool! :D
  • 12-22-2006, 05:11 PM
    LSama
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    I wanted a snake the entire time I was growing up, but my mom always forbade it in her house. Now that I've moved and got Siliast, she asks about him frequently. She's also asked to see him on the webcam, so she has also seen him. She initially asked all about him when I first got him--about what he ate, where I kept him, things like that. I think she didn't think I'd be able to take care of him.

    My brother seems to be okay with him--I think Travis wanted a snake growing up too. He asked a bunch of questions as well. My roommate(the female one) is obviously fine with him, though I feed him and do most of the care for him. My other roommate doesn't seem to mind him, but does not seem eager to really hold him. We have not yet introduced him to the in-law and the kidlet. We're not sure how it would be taken..Though it's something I'm going to approach soon. I want to be able to take him out of the basement occassionally, or somesuch, and I can't do that if they don't know about him..
  • 09-20-2007, 01:03 PM
    Augustus
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    I've always had a thing for reptiles since I was a kid, I just never owned a snake until later on due to having to keep certain temperatures and of course feeding them rodents (since I liked them as well), so I thought I'd need to be a little older to be able to and the fact that my parents, well my dad, isn't exactly crazy about them. Anyway, my friend had a ball python and thats when I really started wanting a snake and after a month or so of wanting one, I got one. I neglected to tell my dad, considering if I asked I knew what the answer would be. A few days after having him, my dad walks in my room and spots the cage and says something on the lines of "What the **** is that??" After telling him it was a ball python he says "Take that **** thing back, we got enough devil in this house." He also said that it was costing him money too (the heat lamp) and to turn it off. Well after a couple days of arguing, he finally comes to the realization that he is there to stay. For a little time when my dad would get mad at me, he would make me turn his heat lamp off...yeah kind of stupid. He quit doing that though and actually asks me questions about him now, still doesn't care to hold him though. My brother didn't care for him much at first either, but now begs to be able to hold him and my mom always liked him. :snake:
  • 09-21-2007, 12:39 AM
    Argentra
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Hmm, why did I never see this post...

    Here's the rundown for me:
    My BF/partner - likes animals but isn't crazy about them. He talks to my rats and watches the snakes, but he won't clean anything or hold the reptiles.

    Mom - She likes animals, and likes hearing about the snakes and gecko, but I don't think she would ever want to hold them. Heck, I don't think she'd want to touch the rats either, and she loves furry critters. :)

    Dad - Thinks I'm nuts for owning a 'large' snake, but he's a very cynical man and sarcastic at times. He loves animals, so I'm sure if he came here he would like the snakes.

    "In Laws" - This is where the fun is. My BF's parents are interesting...his dad really likes reptiles but isn't thrilled that snakes live in our apartment. His mom is absolutely terrified of any reptile or amphibian. They came over before I had the snakes, and his dad questioned me on the Bearded Dragon while his mom headed outside to wait for us. :)
  • 09-21-2007, 01:09 AM
    Kennyxemerson
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    my grandma came over when I was hanging out with one of my bps on the couch watching tv and freaked and informed me that "snakes can poison you" haha..
  • 09-21-2007, 08:39 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    I want every one to notice that I made this post 13 days after I joined..And its still popping up from time to time :carrot:
  • 09-21-2007, 10:18 AM
    juddb
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    I want every one to notice that I made this post 13 days after I joined..And its still popping up from time to time :carrot:

    WOW pretty cool. By the way my friends love coming over and seeing the snakes, but more of them like the rats more....
  • 09-21-2007, 10:37 AM
    Nordinho
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    There's a girl that I REALLY like. I heard from a reliable source that she really likes me too :cool:

    So I went out to take her for a drink, told her I have snakes at home, and she said she'll never enter my home in this lifetime.

    I wish I could get her to know more about snakes, I just don't know how. Anyway, she's not that cool anymore. And there are more fish in the sea. Maybe some fish that aren't afraid of snakes :rolleye2:
  • 09-21-2007, 10:40 AM
    juddb
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nordinho
    There's a girl that I REALLY like. I heard from a reliable source that she really likes me too :cool:

    So I went out to take her for a drink, told her I have snakes at home, and she said she'll never enter my home in this lifetime.

    I wish I could get her to know more about snakes, I just don't know how. Anyway, she's not that cool anymore. And there are more fish in the sea. Maybe some fish that aren't afraid of snakes :rolleye2:

    I wouldnt date a girl who doesnt like my hobby!!!! As for you man if she doesnt except your collection, her loss....
  • 09-21-2007, 10:42 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nordinho
    There's a girl that I REALLY like. I heard from a reliable source that she really likes me too :cool:

    So I went out to take her for a drink, told her I have snakes at home, and she said she'll never enter my home in this lifetime.

    I wish I could get her to know more about snakes, I just don't know how. Anyway, she's not that cool anymore. And there are more fish in the sea. Maybe some fish that aren't afraid of snakes :rolleye2:

    Yea some times the "S" bomb is not really a first date kinda shocker-roo.
    There are load of women that love snake this site is evidence of this fact.
  • 09-21-2007, 10:52 AM
    Nordinho
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Yea some times the "S" bomb is not really a first date kinda shocker-roo.
    There are load of women that love snake this site is evidence of this fact.

    True, I do know some girls that really love them. But it's still tricky to let "new" girls (not that I'm a womanizer ) get used to the idea.
  • 09-22-2007, 03:23 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Loved ones don't like your herp friends ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nordinho
    True, I do know some girls that really love them. But it's still tricky to let "new" girls (not that I'm a womanizer ) get used to the idea.


    "Love me, love my dog" can be turned into "Love me, love my snake". If you're special to her...she may not like your collection, but she can honor you by respecting the hobby....compromising. You know...the idea of agreeing to disagree. Maybe she won't help feed or hold 'em, but she'll accept that YOU enjoy doing those things. Then, you know she's even more worth it.

    On the other hand, if even that attitude is a deal-breaker...there are LOTS of us ladies who'd die for a herp!!! :D :D :D

    I'm getting back to the dating scene, and that's a biggee for men, too! It's not just WOMEN who can't deal w/the pets/hobby. I've actually had two guys tell me "absolutely not" (but not in such polite terms). :O :rolleyes: When asked what "other" pets, I calmly tell them reptiles. If they dig and ask what kind, then I tell them snakes. I don't tell them HOW MANY or what kinds they are,...you know..how big.....until they're cool with the idea of the herp.
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