Cloud, Colombian BCI

You don't need to worry about cooling too much. Just drop it by, say, 2 degrees. Doesn't sound like much to us, but it makes a big difference to the snake. And, yes, I'd wait until he's digested this current meal. Then when you feed again, he'll be used to it. It's not that big of a deal for a non-breeding animal. You could drop the temp for the next 4 weeks, or not at all this year. Since he's a touch overweight (very slightly), I probably would go ahead and do it. He'll burn up some of his extra calories that way. They don't use their fat to stay warm like mammals do, but the cooler temps will still help him work off some of that weight a little. ;)

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You don't need to worry about cooling too much. Just drop it by, say, 2 degrees. Doesn't sound like much to us, but it makes a big difference to the snake. And, yes, I'd wait until he's digested this current meal. Then when you feed again, he'll be used to it. It's not that big of a deal for a non-breeding animal. You could drop the temp for the next 4 weeks, or not at all this year. Since he's a touch overweight (very slightly), I probably would go ahead and do it. He'll burn up some of his extra calories that way. They don't use their fat to stay warm like mammals do, but the cooler temps will still help him work off some of that weight a little. ;)

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Alright, since I got him a touch overweight, I'll give him a chance to burn off some of it with a temp drop before I get him exercising outside again. I'll still take him out to handle like I've been doing as well. :) Hopefully warmer weather will be soon, and I'll get some more outdoor photos for the thread. :D

I could also post some more throwbacks if anyone wants me to, I've got hundreds though so I'll try to keep it just to the best quality ones.

I also got a little video of Cloud in action. I moved him around so you could see his muscle under the bit of flab. He's muscley, it's just slightly covered up. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyxEr...ature=youtu.be

My honest opinion... Your snake has been power fed, Sweetie. It's obvious that its just a bad advice source. For sure I would space out his feedings and keep them that way, every 3-4 weeks. My snake is approximately the same age as yours and Cloud makes my male look like a shrimp. For sure I would follow everyone's advice - change your schedule and keep it that way. You want a long, healthy relationship with him. Enjoy your gorgeous snake!

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My honest opinion... Your snake has been power fed, Sweetie. It's obvious that its just a bad advice source. For sure I would space out his feedings and keep them that way, every 3-4 weeks. My snake is approximately the same age as yours and Cloud makes my male look like a shrimp. For sure I would follow everyone's advice - change your schedule and keep it that way. You want a long, healthy relationship with him. Enjoy your gorgeous snake!

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Since I can't edit... I wanted to add that in my eyes I do not see an obese snake. I see a very large snake for his age. I've been trying to put up a photo in photobucket of my guy and its just not happening. The size difference between our '12 boys is pretty astounding.

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Since I can't edit... I wanted to add that in my eyes I do not see an obese snake. I see a very large snake for his age. I've been trying to put up a photo in photobucket of my guy and its just not happening. The size difference between our '12 boys is pretty astounding.

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I had to re-read Cloud's original post when I saw this. According to the OP, Cloud the boa is a 2011 - not a 2012. So he should be bigger than your own 2012 fellow. Even so, he IS large for his age. My 2011 FEMALES are not even this big. But careful not to compare him to a '12 - a year can make a big difference in size. :gj:

Excuse me, you are right. My math was wrong. '11. I've had him for two years last Christmas. By size we estimated him as a fall baby.

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My honest opinion... Your snake has been power fed, Sweetie. It's obvious that its just a bad advice source. For sure I would space out his feedings and keep them that way, every 3-4 weeks. My snake is approximately the same age as yours and Cloud makes my male look like a shrimp. For sure I would follow everyone's advice - change your schedule and keep it that way. You want a long, healthy relationship with him. Enjoy your gorgeous snake!

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Idk. I've seen power-fed boas, and they have tiny heads. Cloud really doesn't, at least not like what I've seen. It was very shocking to me when I saw their stubby heads, because they looked so tiny compared to what I'm used to on Cloud. I only spent the first 2-3 months on a 5 day schedule and then moved onto a 7-10 day schedule because he got chubby. Other than that, he's never been fed more often than a week. I'd been playing around with a 2 week vs a weekly schedule his whole 2nd year even a bit during his first year, so he wasn't consistently on a weekly feeding schedule the whole time. He's always been fed rather small meals (1/2 his width to slightly smaller than his width on the higher end), except for a couple of times when I misjudged his readiness to move up in size. Maybe the few hiccups I had caused him to grow faster. He did grow really fast from 5-6ft, around the time I gave him larges too soon so it's possible. I fixed it after 3 or 4 feedings and went back to what I was giving him before. I'm not sure if those hiccups (maybe a total of 6-7 feedings) were enough to severely affect his growth rate. He's pretty much stopped growing now over the past few months, since around November. I'll be sure to be more careful with my next boa in case, though. :)

I'm really honestly not sure of his age as I bought him from a pet store, but he was small enough when I got him he couldn't be more than 2 or 3 months at most without some severe stunting but he was perfect when I got him so not likely. I'm basing his birthday off of when I got him. And don't worry, I'd already begun a biweekly schedule, and with the rabbits he'll be on a 4 week schedule. He's already starting lose some of his side flab. :D He's almost empty now (he passed urates but no feces), so I'll be dropping his temps soon.

Here are some photos from today. It actually reached 75F, so I brought him out for a bit while the good weather lasted. I was watching the Weather Channel very closely all day, and had my own thermometer outside in the shade and off the pavement to check because their Waynesville station is usually colder than it is where I live. The sun was playing around behind the clouds, so I made sure to keep a close eye on his body temps with a temp gun. Checking his belly, back, and head. He was fine (75.5-76F) until the sun completely disappeared and the wind picked up, at which time I brought him back inside.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps95ad482f.jpg

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Well... Whatever happened, he's HUGE. Haha. Luckily he's a youngin still. You can way slow down his feeding and it won't hurt him one bit. Heck, it would probably help him. Everyone is concerned that he could have a fatty liver I do believe. That's the main issue with power feeding and super fast growth. He is a looker.

Okay, I have to ask. How big are you? If you are a tiny thing what we are seeing could be way thrown off. My guy looks small compared to me but I am a fluffy woman. Haha

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Well... Whatever happened, he's HUGE. Haha. Luckily he's a youngin still. You can way slow down his feeding and it won't hurt him one bit. Heck, it would probably help him. Everyone is concerned that he could have a fatty liver I do believe. That's the main issue with power feeding and super fast growth. He is a looker.

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I really hope not, I would feel bad. ;.; Is there a way to get like x-rays to see or something? I wouldn't mind paying if it could put mine and everyone else's minds at rest. And thanks, I think so, too! The best is when he gets a rosy tone to him, but the camera almost never picks it up. >.>

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Okay, I have to ask. How big are you? If you are a tiny thing what we are seeing could be way thrown off. My guy looks small compared to me but I am a fluffy woman. Haha

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I am 5'1" and 100-105lbs. :)

I know, not the best photo. Haha. Here's my late '11 guy. He's on 12" tiles.

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2a765fbd.jpg

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I know, not the best photo. Haha. Here's my late '11 guy. He's on 12" tiles.

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2a765fbd.jpg

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He does look quite a bit smaller. I'm guessing 4 or 5ft?

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I really hope not, I would feel bad. ;.; Is there a way to get like x-rays to see or something? I wouldn't mind paying if it could put mine and everyone else's minds at rest. And thanks, I think so, too! The best is when he gets a rosy tone to him, but the camera almost never picks it up. >.>



I am 5'1" and 100-105lbs. :)

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Haha. I was starting to wonder. I think you being a tiny thing is throwing us all off. Cloud would not look like that compared to me at 5'9" and fluffy. While he is a good sized dude I'm starting to feel that he's not as big as we were originally thinking especially if some of those weights are done with a couple of feeding under his belt. We always try to weigh after they relieve themselves.

Tests, nah. He's young. I honestly feel that if you back off his feeds a bit and continue allowing him his exercise he'll be just fine.

I do believe he has crossed over 5' now. He's near impossible to measure. He goes from finger tips, across my shoulders, and to my elbow on the other arm.

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Haha. I was starting to wonder. I think you being a tiny thing is throwing us all off. Cloud would not look like that compared to me at 5'9" and fluffy. While he is a good sized dude I'm starting to feel that he's not as big as we were originally thinking especially if some of those weights are done with a couple of feeding under his belt. We always try to weigh after they relieve themselves.

Tests, nah. He's young. I honestly feel that if you back off his feeds a bit and continue allowing him his exercise he'll be just fine.

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Alright. *breathes huge sigh of relief* Yeah, I always weigh after they void as well. :) When he poops, I'll weigh him again, maybe those urates threw it off.

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I do believe he has crossed over 5' now. He's near impossible to measure. He goes from finger tips, across my shoulders, and to my elbow on the other arm.

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rofl I'm lucky, my guy is really cooperative. ;) I just put him up against the wall and he flattens out against it, I just really need to hold his head down.

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Alright. *breathes huge sigh of relief* Yeah, I always weigh after they void as well. :) When he poops, I'll weigh him again, maybe those urates threw it off.



rofl I'm lucky, my guy is really cooperative. ;) I just put him up against the wall and he flattens out against it, I just really need to hold his head down.

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Mine does his best impression of a BP. He's confused.

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Mine does his best impression of a BP. He's confused.

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Haha I'd like to see that. lol My ball python doesn't think he's a ball python. Unless he's in a hide, he doesn't curl up, if he gets startled he pushes his head under his belly or just pulls it back.

He's more than happy to spread out as long as you don't mess with him. He's a lazy bum that likes to wrap around things on he's been out of his enclosure for a couple minutes. His favorite place in the world is curled up on his shelf in the corner on the cool side. I swear he only uses that 10"x48" surface. The rest of the enclosure... What's that? Haha

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He's more than happy to spread out as long as you don't mess with him. He's a lazy bum that likes to wrap around things on he's been out of his enclosure for a couple minutes. His favorite place in the world is curled up on his shelf in the corner on the cool side. I swear he only uses that 10"x48" surface. The rest of the enclosure... What's that? Haha

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Cloud loves his hides. lol The other enclosure he was in had a branch (which he's now too big for), but he never used it. He was always either in the hot or cool hide, and then just cruising at night. I caught him in the tree a couple of times, but it went mostly unused. If he's not in his hides, he's buried in the substrate. He loves fresh bedding, too, so if it's the day I do a complete substrate change, he'll be buried until it goes through its first cycle and dries out. lol

I do want to still offer climbing stuff for him, but I'm not sure how I'll go about it yet. Once we get a new place and I know we won't be moving sometime soon, I'd like to make a bioactive enclosure. I've been looking at some threads on it, and I feel his enclosure is empty with just the two hides and the water dish and I like the natural look of the bioactive. Just not sure if there's a living plant strong enough to hold him, or if I'll have to get a big branch or something. I don't trust the ball python with the natural environment, I just KNOW he'll trample every plant. The garter would probably enjoy a decent naturalistic enclosure as well.

Some more throwbacks. From last summer and a few from the summer and early fall of 2012.

Threaded through a chair, last summer.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps05056a68.jpg

U wat m8?
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The look of a snake about to take a dump. I had a few outside poops last summer. He didn't even have a sausage butt, so I was not expecting it. Better in the yard than on me, though. lol
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c27b2d7.jpg

The camera *almost* captured the reddish hue here.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2f3c3fa9.jpg

He buried himself, and popped his head up once he felt me walk into the room. Look at that pile of dirt on his head. :rolleyes:
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http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...psa4a9a03c.jpg

I've been watching this thread for a while and I have to say I love how many pictures you take of your Cloud. Most threads I see only a few photos and that's that because they have many snakes.

I have three and I love taking photos of them every time I can. I recently got a baby boa and I can't wait for him to grow. He's such a tiny worm and I'm starting to love boas more than anything and this thread, along with your enthusiasm is only solidifying that. :)

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I've been watching this thread for a while and I have to say I love how many pictures you take of your Cloud. Most threads I see only a few photos and that's that because they have many snakes.

I have three and I love taking photos of them every time I can. I recently got a baby boa and I can't wait for him to grow. He's such a tiny worm and I'm starting to love boas more than anything and this thread, along with your enthusiasm is only solidifying that. :)

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Thanks! :D It's a lot more fun taking photos of a snake that's constantly changing in front of you, which is probably why I've taken more of Cloud than Bud, and why I'm starting to take lots of Draco, too. :P I think even if I had quite a bit of snakes, I'd still take lots of photos. Maybe not as much of just one, unless it's in cycles. lol

Glad to hear! Cloud's definitely really grown on me, and I want to get another boa constrictor at some point. They really are awesome. :D I'll make sure to keep posting in this thread as long as I can. :gj:

This makes me even more excited to get a BCI!

Amazing snake. :)

So I took some photos of Cloud at the door today since it was actually sunny when I was at home. :P

He's become quite angsty lately, I suppose because of the lack of food. He's not striking/hissing or getting defensive, but he is being quite twitchy in the enclosure and wriggly when I have him out. He's completely empty now and I weighed him at 8lb 4.7oz (3763 grams). His temps have also been dropped as advised.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0cc2c085.jpg

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Well, I was able to take outdoor photos today. :)

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Hey,, he looks good! Whatever you are doing, seems to be OK. Night and day difference from the pics I thought he was overweight in.

Seems he is just a big guy is all.

Nice.

Great pics! I wouldn't dare take pics of my snakes outside... Although they are "legal" in my apartment complex, I'm sure if the neighbors saw them they'd complain and we'd be asked to get rid of them.... Which among other reasons, is why we're house shopping soon..

All that said, wonderful pictures! I really like the one where he's on the tree, great lighting and angles on that one.

What kind of camera do you use, if you don't mind me asking? I have a rinky dink "cool pix" from about 5 years ago and it just doesn't seem to get good colors in pics.

Unbelievably AWESOME photos!!!! Very much enjoyed looking at all of them! Thanks! Your boy is stunning!

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Hey,, he looks good! Whatever you are doing, seems to be OK. Night and day difference from the pics I thought he was overweight in.

Seems he is just a big guy is all.

Nice.

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Thanks! :) I've dropped his temps, I've been holding off on feeding him, and I've been taking him out about every day. I'll give him the next rabbit either next Friday or the Friday after.

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Great pics! I wouldn't dare take pics of my snakes outside... Although they are "legal" in my apartment complex, I'm sure if the neighbors saw them they'd complain and we'd be asked to get rid of them.... Which among other reasons, is why we're house shopping soon..

All that said, wonderful pictures! I really like the one where he's on the tree, great lighting and angles on that one.

What kind of camera do you use, if you don't mind me asking? I have a rinky dink "cool pix" from about 5 years ago and it just doesn't seem to get good colors in pics.

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Yeah, we can keep them here, and no one really minds them around here. The only person that didn't like them moved away last year. No one even seems to notice them around here, which is nice. :) I use a Canon PowerShot A620, and I usually use the auto feature, although I do sometimes experiment on the custom settings. lol I think my father bought it for $400-500 like 7 or 8 years ago, maybe more. I *think* he had it when he first got custody of us, and that was ~7.5 years ago. I would like to get a Canon DSLR at some point, though. I'll have to set aside money for that.

Thanks for the info on the camera. I need to get a DSLR as well.. I'll just have to save up money for one and start trying to do good photos as a part of my hobby. Interesting that keeping herps seems to cause you to develop other hobbies to go along with it. :P

CloudtheBoa if you look into cannon DSLRs the t2 or i think t2i is a really good bang for you buck. Just my opinion from my research when i bought one. The t3 is pretty much the same thing with a few IMO unnecessary auto functions you could live without for a lot more money. Sorry off topic

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CloudtheBoa if you look into cannon DSLRs the t2 or i think t2i is a really good bang for you buck. Just my opinion from my research when i bought one. The t3 is pretty much the same thing with a few IMO unnecessary auto functions you could live without for a lot more money. Sorry off topic

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Thanks for the info! I heard that the Rebel t3i was the best camera to start out on getting used to lenses and exposure and such for less money than the new models, and there's that auto to fall back onto for beginners as well. I'll take a look at the t2i, though, and hopefully get into a photography class.

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Thanks for the info on the camera. I need to get a DSLR as well.. I'll just have to save up money for one and start trying to do good photos as a part of my hobby. Interesting that keeping herps seems to cause you to develop other hobbies to go along with it. :P

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Yeah, the amount of photos I take rose exponentially when I got Cloud. XD I took virtually none before I got him. It really is fun, though, and is a great way to spend time with your animals.

Also, a little update on Cloud. A few weeks ago he officially reached 6ft, so he's growing a whole lot less than he was. It took him 3-4 months to grow this last inch, and he's just now started his next shed. :D He hasn't shed since I first got him back, and I didn't even realize he was in shed because his belly didn't go pink and he wasn't hanging out in his water dish for the first time in a long while. I'm not going to complain, though. It makes it easier on me - and him - to give him fresh water every day if I don't have to lug the lump out of his dish. :P But it must have started the day I took the outdoor photos, because he was going dark then, he just didn't have the pink belly yet. His shed should correspond around the time of his next planned meal, since this is Day 4.

You can't see the pink with the sun, but you can see that "wrinkled" appearance their scales get.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps72366337.jpg

Under artificial light, so that the camera could pick up the subtle pinks.
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In his enclosure, curled up under his hide, just giving him a quick check, like I usually do. When in shed, I'll take a peek every few days to see how he's coming around and maybe take a few pics. He's very very calm in shed, but if he starts getting grumpy I'll leave him alone except for mixing up his bedding. This way I can just keep close tabs on him.
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And a video of him returning to his hide after I mixed up his bedding. Apparently he decided that the entrance wasn't good enough for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF9s8zuM4nM

Going in, taken right before the other one. haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpiN4KiQoFE

If you are looking for a DSLR camera, I just bought the Nikon d3200. It has come down a touch in price because the 3300 was just released. B&H Photo has it very reasonably priced right now. I love it. That's all I can say. Love. Not like - Love. It is very easy to use, beginner friendly, and takes some outstanding pictures. None of which I've had the time to upload here of course... lol...

Sorry to get off topic - just wanted to throw that out there. ;)


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If you are looking for a DSLR camera, I just bought the Nikon d3200. It has come down a touch in price because the 3300 was just released. B&H Photo has it very reasonably priced right now. I love it. That's all I can say. Love. Not like - Love. It is very easy to use, beginner friendly, and takes some outstanding pictures. None of which I've had the time to upload here of course... lol...

Sorry to get off topic - just wanted to throw that out there. ;)


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Well, I'm more of a Canon person, but I'll keep an eye out. :P I'll compare the two and see which one I prefer. :)

I had Cloud out a few days ago to do his bedding, and decided to get a few pics while I was at it. :P

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0aa7216c.jpg

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Going back into his hide - through the entrance this time.
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I came home and checked up on Cloud since it's been a few days, and I saw a little bit of shed peeking out from his coils. :D

I moved the top coil over so I could photograph it.

With flash.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/...ps814de4da.jpg

Without flash.
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In my lap.
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I also went ahead and weighed him, and he's now 8lbs even. I have a rabbit thawing out to feed him later tonight, as I'm sure he's hungry! :D
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The tub is a little dirty, because I used it to strain some bedding when I accidentally poured to much water into it. Other than that, it's clean.
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Love the last picture.

Sorry I haven't doing stuff on here lately, but I'll try to do better now. :P

Cloud has shed once or twice since I last posted, but I've been unable to measure him due to lack of space (this apartment is packed pretty tight). He's on a rotating schedule of 1/2lb rabbits (my father has finally begun breeding so I can get ahold of smaller rabbits now - although I don't much like my father, it's free rabbits) every 4 weeks or a large rat every 2 weeks. I take him out whenever I'm home, and luckily most days are warm enough to take him outside for a short excursion. So, here are some more photos. :D

I let him crawl in a small tree in the front yard for a bit. The tree branches are really thick, though, so I don't think I'll be letting him climb it again as it's difficult to remove him if I need to.
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This is what he looks like in the shade on my camera. Although it's lighter, it shows more of his gray color than the sun pictures do, where he looks more like a light tan color.
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So, according to SerpWidgets, he has grown 2 inches since I measured him in March. I wish I could measure him exactly with a tape measure, but I can't unfortunately. :/ Not enough wall space and now no tape measure. There's not much that has changed with him in care or himself, but I do have a few new photos. :)

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...ne-d7qu8qm.jpg

Hanging out with me on the bed.
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Nice photos, especially the ones outside. I haven't taken my boa outside for pics yet... I want to, but not sure how he'll react. I'm glad that he's growing for you and that you found a source for rabbits. It is likely that I won't ever try feeding rabbits (there aren't many breeders in this area), but it would be great to only feed once every 4 weeks.

The second to last picture is really nice.

I like it.

He looks good too.

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Nice photos, especially the ones outside. I haven't taken my boa outside for pics yet... I want to, but not sure how he'll react. I'm glad that he's growing for you and that you found a source for rabbits. It is likely that I won't ever try feeding rabbits (there aren't many breeders in this area), but it would be great to only feed once every 4 weeks.

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He should do fine. :) He may be a little shy or hesitant at first, but after visiting the outdoors a few times he should get used to it.

I'm also glad about finding a source. If I hadn't found one here, I would have found an online source. Layne Labs has rabbits in stock, but so far I all I've seen is "out of stock" for their X-small rabbits, so I probably would have ended up sticking with rats in that case. I'm thinking of switching up his diet once he goes through this batch, if he will go for it. Mix some rats in there and maybe some quail, but I have a lot of rabbits and I don't want to waste them so I want to go through them first.

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Originally Posted by Gio

The second to last picture is really nice.

I like it.

He looks good too.

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Thanks! I really wish I could get a tape measure on him, he definitely seems like he's still growing. He's not getting thicker, he's getting slimmer, but he's steadily taking up more and more room in his weighing tub, and it's difficult to get a perfectly even overhead photo of a 6ft+ boa for SerpWidgets. lol

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Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa

He should do fine. :) He may be a little shy or hesitant at first, but after visiting the outdoors a few times he should get used to it.

I'm also glad about finding a source. If I hadn't found one here, I would have found an online source. Layne Labs has rabbits in stock, but so far I all I've seen is "out of stock" for their X-small rabbits, so I probably would have ended up sticking with rats in that case. I'm thinking of switching up his diet once he goes through this batch, if he will go for it. Mix some rats in there and maybe some quail, but I have a lot of rabbits and I don't want to waste them so I want to go through them first.



Thanks! I really wish I could get a tape measure on him, he definitely seems like he's still growing. He's not getting thicker, he's getting slimmer, but he's steadily taking up more and more room in his weighing tub, and it's difficult to get a perfectly even overhead photo of a 6ft+ boa for SerpWidgets. lol

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Yep, I noticed he's leaned out.

Nice work. Bet he'll climb a lot if you have the right type of caging.

Try and get him up against a wall and measure him. May or may not work, but I usually have good luck when mine hugs a wall and straightens out.

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Originally Posted by Gio

Yep, I noticed he's leaned out.

Nice work. Bet he'll climb a lot if you have the right type of caging.

Try and get him up against a wall and measure him. May or may not work, but I usually have good luck when mine hugs a wall and straightens out.

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I have him in a wooden enclosure, so very easy to install something. My only problem is finding a branch big enough for him to climb on, and I don't have the first clue on how to install a shelf. My father is a carpenter, and I no longer live with him so I can't have him do that for me anymore.

That's usually how I measure him, he's very cooperative when it comes to measuring (unlike the other 3.....). But unfortunately there is no wall space to measure even my baby BRB let alone Cloud. We have walls long enough, but way too much stuff in too tiny an apartment. Which is why we're desperately finding a way to move out of here, and with everyone's new jobs that will hopefully be by New Year's, if not sooner.

Cloud has begun a shed cycle, so that means I have at least two snakes in shed right now. No photos right now, so have some throwbacks.

Taken at the end of April 2013, I believe he was in shed at this time. About 4-4.5ft.
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/...ne-d62kp0n.jpg

Taken at the end of June 2013, a day after being moved to his new enclosure. At the time, I was using an infrared light, which is why he's in his water dish. He's not in shed, and didn't have any mites, he was apparently stressed from the light. He spent 5 days straight without leaving and went back to his normal behavior the very night I stopped using the red lights.
http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...ne-d6atdhl.jpg

Also, a good indication of growth. This was taken end of June 2013.
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/...ne-d6atdjk.jpg

This is the same exact bucket as the one above, just a bit dirtier due to previously storing left-over expanded EcoEarth. Taken August of this year.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...ne-d7txepv.jpg

This is an old feeding day photo, taken beginning of October, which was his last feeding. I've decided to start extending his feedings from every 4 weeks to every 5 weeks, and after a bit of thinking I'm also debating on giving him the rest of the winter off food after all. If so, he'll have one more meal after he sheds, I'll give him time to digest, and then drop his temps before holding food until spring. What do you guys think?

Here he is eating a 4oz rabbit, about half his girth. For once he didn't drag it into his hide, so I was able to snap a picture. Feeding pics are rare for me, because my snakes mostly eat in solitude.
http://40.media.tumblr.com/3f00cece1...tato1_1280.jpg

My father left to go hunting with my grandfather in SC, so I was asked to house sit for the cats and rabbits while I was gone and I took advantage of this to use his wall space to get an accurate measurement of Cloud. He's right around 6'3", so I was right when I thought he'd grown a bit. :D Not a lot of growth at all (3 inches in about a yearlong period), but I'll probably see this kind of growth for a few more years before I see little to no growth. My ball python hasn't grown even 1/2 inch in over 5 years (he's still 3'7" even), so I think once he reaches adult length I won't see any more growth.

Unfortunately, my camera has broken, so no new photos. :/ I'm hoping to get a new one with the help of some Christmas money, though.

I thought I had posted recent photos here, guess I was wrong. lol Well here are some crappy cell phone pics. :P

http://40.media.tumblr.com/432578aac...tato2_1280.jpg

An overhead photo from the past few weeks.
http://36.media.tumblr.com/961c8c901...tato1_1280.jpg

And one from last year to show the difference.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/ef84b803c...o5_r1_1280.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/dcbc3c805...tato1_1280.jpg

I began fasting him this year, and today is Day 64, so he should get his next meal mid- to late-February. He started out weighing about 8 lb 11.6 oz, and now weighs 8 lb 8.8 oz. I don't think he was completely empty for that first weight, though. The day I lowered temps, after I was sure he'd voided his rabbit, he seemed to go into breeding mode or something and was actively crawling around and had tipped over two of his hides, which he's never done before. He's never even tipped his water bowl before. lol That was just that day, he hasn't done that since.

Beautiful boa.

Here are some more photos. With a bit of a struggle, I was able to take advantage of the sunlight coming through the window to take some close ups of Cloud.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...67845131ce.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...db9e98d822.jpg

He makes my arm look so tiny....
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...6b0ad02446.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...b114d6af91.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...bc07e9d733.jpg


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I love the picture of him in the yellow flowers - he's adorable!