Very Disturbing...

Atleast they ate them.........

Um, first of all, this thread is TWO YEARS OLD...=P

And second, from what I've read, the milking performed during round-ups is not done cleanly, so the obtained venom is useless. So the round-ups are just circus events and cook-outs.

I don't have a problem with properly licensed hunters going out into the wild, killing their limit of game for their own consumption. Or animals properly raised and humanely slaughtered for food.

The problem I have with rattlesnake round ups is that they are neither of the above; it is a circus mentality and people's feeling that this is "the right thing to do because these animals are evil". It makes a display of animal torture, making it seem right, and if allowed to continue, I would assume could seriously damage the future of the rattlesnake population in the wild.

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Um, first of all, this thread is TWO YEARS OLD...=P

And second, from what I've read, the milking performed during round-ups is not done cleanly, so the obtained venom is useless. So the round-ups are just circus events and cook-outs.

I don't have a problem with properly licensed hunters going out into the wild, killing their limit of game for their own consumption. Or animals properly raised and humanely slaughtered for food.

The problem I have with rattlesnake round ups is that they are neither of the above; it is a circus mentality and people's feeling that this is "the right thing to do because these animals are evil". It makes a display of animal torture, making it seem right, and if allowed to continue, I would assume could seriously damage the future of the rattlesnake population in the wild.

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Sorry.

I wasnt the first to post anyways...lol...:P

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yeah they arent protected but just like everything in a few years they are gonna realize oh crap now they are endangered we should protect them now i could understand if maybe they were captivley raised for this purpose (although still mean i wouldnt object we do the same for cattle) but going out and snagging them from the wild is wrong. i found an article on purses and stuff made outta ball pythons and i got sad i imagined my little skyler as a boot, and ziggy as the other boot.

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when you go to the page just type rattlesnake in the little search box in the middle it will be the first linkk.

I'm pissed off at that. I know its an old post, but you know it still goes on. What is the point of killing them? To make some money? Pointless! :mad:

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Plagued by rodents now, hmmmm, I'm still waiting on that one. I've live in texas all my life, and never have seen a shortage of rattlesnakes anywhere i've been. The roundup is making use of a natural resource that we have and using it to make a profit. It is in no way trying to show that snakes are evil or immoral or whatever you think is being portrayed. You could compare the roundup to any innumerable other things happening in this world, most of which are much worse. For all you Peta members, I'm surprised that you could consider owning an undomesticated animal as remotely ethical, I would think you would say it is meant to be wild, so how could you tame it. so step down from you're high and mightly little perch and look at your own practices towards animals and see if they the most ethical, I'm sure I could find faults under your requirements for ethical treatment. Well, unless maybe you're a true vegan, but i doubt that. As for this ranch raised guy, I'll stick to my ways. I'll keep hunting, fishing, and if I really want to, I'll drive on up to sweetwater and attend the roundup and show that its not a fear, It's economics. The rest of y'all can keep you're left wing liberal ethics, and I'll keep in mind that I live in free country, and I'll enjoy my freedoms....you can enjoy your's too, thats why its called America. All that I really ask is you don't look down your nose at everyone else, and impose your views on them.

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I too live in Texas and have all my life this is not just mindless killing. The meat is cooked and served they have a contest for the best reciepe. It is kinda like a goat cookoff or a barbeque contest It just takes more snakes then goats or cows. The venom is milked and turned ito anti venom, which is very important in a place that is overrun with rattle snakes. They don't stay on a ranch or a farm they come into houses, busnesses, and front yards where children play. It is something that has to be done to protect the community. As for invading thier habitat, do you suggest we let the snakes take over half the state and move out. We cannot help that the terrain in that part of the state is prime to the snakes housing and breeding. In one den there can be hundreds of snakes. When they spread out they have to spread far for the space they require. This is a place where the snakes outnumber the people. I don't expect everyone to unerstand, but try living with it.

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I too live in Texas and have all my life this is not just mindless killing. The meat is cooked and served they have a contest for the best reciepe. It is kinda like a goat cookoff or a barbeque contest It just takes more snakes then goats or cows. The venom is milked and turned ito anti venom, which is very important in a place that is overrun with rattle snakes. They don't stay on a ranch or a farm they come into houses, busnesses, and front yards where children play. It is something that has to be done to protect the community. As for invading thier habitat, do you suggest we let the snakes take over half the state and move out. We cannot help that the terrain in that part of the state is prime to the snakes housing and breeding. In one den there can be hundreds of snakes. When they spread out they have to spread far for the space they require. This is a place where the snakes outnumber the people. I don't expect everyone to unerstand, but try living with it.

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There is yet to be a bank to take the venom from one of these.

Texans...

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any proof the back up that statement?

Although I do think that unlimited killing of these WDR is highly unnecessary, I do see the concern that families and business might have with having these Hot's so close to their home and children. There is a guy in Oklahoma (I can't recall the name right now, I believe Shannon might know him) who goes out to people's homes, and he sets a car hood out in people's backyards/ pastures. Every few days he'll come out, check the car hood for snakes, may they be little corns and garters or even the diamond backs, and he'll safely relocate them either to a scientific/educational facility or to a remote area/ wildlife reserve. While a lot of states are soon running out of uninhabited area's if the population density is extremely high, I wouldn't be as upset with a limit on the 'snake hunting', as long as every possible resource was used from the killed snakes.
It's just sad that the human population has become so...unaware of nature, and unwilling to view anything unless it benefits ourselves. :(

I agree. I think a spectacle is being made of it all, and that's what bothers me most. I think having a "season" on them, like dear and such, to cut down numbers but keep them from being endangered is fine. I just hate how everything is like a circus and show people killing snakes is fun :-p

Even if they made it a big educational thing I may be okay with it, just do the killing behind scenes instead of out where everyone can watch them get their little heads chopped off!

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Please...can we quit stereotyping Texans as barbaric rednecks? It does get tiring after a while. We don't all own horses, live on ranches, wear cowboy boots, or participate in rattlesnake roundups. Nor are these roundups exclusive to Texas. Thank you.

Andy Fadner

*EDIT* Wow, I just realized how old this thread is. My bad.