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  • 06-05-2013, 01:28 AM
    JeffMcdonald
    Re: Wanting to upgrade enclosure for my BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffMcdonald View Post
    Keeping lots of snakes is not a good idea at all. You surely need some led light to protect yourself. May not bright but still enough light for you to judge well:colbert::colbert:

    It was just an opinion nothing else..
  • 06-05-2013, 12:28 PM
    WifeOfSlasher
    Wanting to upgrade enclosure for my BCI
    We also have pro-lines. LOVE THEM!!!! Ed is awesome to work with and his product is fabulous. We heat with RHPs and didn't bother with lights because they get plenty of natural light. One day I may change my mind but I like things as they are right now.
  • 06-05-2013, 02:13 PM
    OsirisRa32
    Re: Wanting to upgrade enclosure for my BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Ha nope go ahead and be lazy LOL!

    48" x 23" x 14".

    The height seems good for now, but 18" is probably easier to reach in and clean. I'm housing a male so I think I'm set unless he gets over 6 1/2 feet long.

    Probably not a language barrier on the post. I was just trying to figure it out. I guess if you go through the process to register just to post that so be it. I forgot to hit the "Thanks" button if anybody didn't notice LOL!

    Gio...where/ how do you deal with the cords or sections of them inside the caging?
  • 06-05-2013, 09:02 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Wanting to upgrade enclosure for my BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffMcdonald View Post
    Keeping lots of snakes is not a good idea at all. You surely need some light to protect yourself. May not bright but still enough light for you to judge well:colbert::colbert:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffMcdonald View Post
    It was just an opinion nothing else..

    We don't mean to be unfriendly, but if you're going to be a part of an on-line herp community, there's a couple of things you should probably know.....

    First, many of us DO keep "lots of snakes". I myself have 17 and there are quite of few here who have a LOT more than that - upwards of 50-60 or even in the 100's. Those of us with "lots" of snakes would like to know why you think that's not a good idea. We are hobbyists, ecologists, and breeders and having lots of snakes is the norm, not the unusual.

    Second, a light inside the cage isn't going to protect us one bit. The cages we've been talking about here have large clear doors that let in a lot of natural light and/or light from the room. We can easily see into these cages without an added light. There is never any question as to where our snakes are in the cage or to what mood they are in.

    Third, while some of us here do keep hots and do take plenty of added precautions when dealing with them, this particular forum, and specifically this thread, is in reference to boa constrictors. These are naturally docile, curious, and tame snakes that are non-venomous. The risk when dealing with boas is vastly minimal.

    Fourth, snakes do not require lights in their enclosures. They are not like lizards and don't need UVB light for metabolic growth. Humidity is more necessary to a snake's well-being and lights are notorious for damaging the delicate balance of humidity in their enclosures. This is why many hobbyists/breeders do not recommend lights. Some of us do choose to use lights, but more for aesthetics than because it is strictly necessary.

    Lastly, welcome to the forums! I urge you to browse around and get to know some of us. We are a friendly and open group, although sometimes overzealous and passionate, lol. This is a wonderful place to learn and while browsing our forums, I hope you can keep that in mind. :gj:
  • 06-05-2013, 09:27 PM
    Gio
    Re: Wanting to upgrade enclosure for my BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OsirisRa32 View Post
    Gio...where/ how do you deal with the cords or sections of them inside the caging?

    Hi,

    I think you can see the ceiling of my cage in some of the pics in the thread. There are 2 vents on each side of the back of the cage. I run the LED strip and thermostat out one and the Moonlight and RHP out the other. Just mount them before you screw down the top. But even if you don't unscrew and mount. Actually the Pro-Products RHP has a cord that you pop into the adapter after you mount so it sneaks through.

    I use FOIL tape on the top to tighten and slack. Its the only thing that sticks to a Pro-Line. Just make sure its TIGHT so the snake can't get to it. My cords are tight without it, but I don't want him knocking stuff down LOL!!
  • 06-05-2013, 09:50 PM
    Gio
    Re: Wanting to upgrade enclosure for my BCI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    We don't mean to be unfriendly, but if you're going to be a part of an on-line herp community, there's a couple of things you should probably know.....

    First, many of us DO keep "lots of snakes". I myself have 17 and there are quite of few here who have a LOT more than that - upwards of 50-60 or even in the 100's. Those of us with "lots" of snakes would like to know why you think that's not a good idea. We are hobbyists, ecologists, and breeders and having lots of snakes is the norm, not the unusual.

    Second, a light inside the cage isn't going to protect us one bit. The cages we've been talking about here have large clear doors that let in a lot of natural light and/or light from the room. We can easily see into these cages without an added light. There is never any question as to where our snakes are in the cage or to what mood they are in.

    Third, while some of us here do keep hots and do take plenty of added precautions when dealing with them, this particular forum, and specifically this thread, is in reference to boa constrictors. These are naturally docile, curious, and tame snakes that are non-venomous. The risk when dealing with boas is vastly minimal.

    Fourth, snakes do not require lights in their enclosures. They are not like lizards and don't need UVB light for metabolic growth. Humidity is more necessary to a snake's well-being and lights are notorious for damaging the delicate balance of humidity in their enclosures. This is why many hobbyists/breeders do not recommend lights. Some of us do choose to use lights, but more for aesthetics than because it is strictly necessary.

    Lastly, welcome to the forums! I urge you to browse around and get to know some of us. We are a friendly and open group, although sometimes overzealous and passionate, lol. This is a wonderful place to learn and while browsing our forums, I hope you can keep that in mind. :gj:

    Yes, light does not protect you. Not smelling like food does.

    I like lights for looks primarily, and to help with cleaning. My fella is in a basement so I do go 12 hrs light, 2-3 hrs Moonlight (sometimes) then black.

    But most of the REAL keepers here have their own system.

    Opinions are fine and welcome, however its usually best to relate them in some way to the thread (my opinion LOL!).

    My 2 snakes are the easiest pets I've ever owned. Love our dogs, but they are not "leave alone" animals.

    Long live the snake!!
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