Burmeese

Thats cause when the little snake escapes it wont eat the neighbors cat or dog :wink:

Hello all,
I am aghast at a few of these posts to say the least. I am surprised by the mentality of this whole thread, if you would like me to elaborate, please feel free to PM me.
I will say this;
There are some great snake keepers out there, and some not so great. I happen to have the luxury of first hand experience from animal cruelty cases etc.
Anyone, new to these forums or not (remember not all “n00bs” are “new“) who may be interested in the experience of large boid ownership, are more then welcome to help out at Rusty Reptiles. Like I said some people are great with Burmese pythons, and some people may need a little more education and experience on there care before owning one.
Thank you
Rusty

I have a story. I was in a "Pet Store" the other day and heard a scantily clad woman tell some old folk that BP's have both male and female body parts :roll: She said that she was pretty experienced in handling these snakes and that her first snake had died cause she had lost interest in it and stopped feeding it :evil:

Did you smack the woman? She sounded like she needed to be. Maybe someone should loose interest in her and stop feeding her and see how she feels. That just makes me angry.

Just some points reitereted that I am sure everyone knows but bear repeating:

Pythons can live very long lives as far as "pets" go - you must be ready for a more long-term commitment than you would give even the family dog.

Giants (Burmese, Indian and African Rock, Retics) will grow to be a 2-person husbandry task at a minimum, have huge enclosure needs at adulthood and will eat vast quantities over long years. If you can't be there whenever need arises with help and in person you may want to wait.

"Errors" with the snakes can be VERY bad news, for the keeper, household members and even the overall reputation of the herping hobby as a whole.

Through a number of factors from intimidation to financial strain to incompatibility with your significant other large snakes wind up being rescued, put out or down or at best sold off in dismaying numbers.

I would just urge any potential owners of these snakes to think it through carefully and make sure they are at a stable and established point in their lives where ALL the above factors are covered before entering into such a commitment.

People can be reminded of these without gong all ad hominem.


There's no condescending in what I am saying - and don't mean to overstate the obvious - but the discouraging words you are hearing are ones you'll likley run into in any community when making that kind of keeping transition, albeit the tones and stances you've seen illustrate the extreme example.

David is right. Manaic is a n00b and would probably be killed by a burm. I don't see why everyone thinks david is an ass or egotistical. He's trying to save the herps that would be in horrible conditions otherwise. All Hail Beard!

hail the beard... i totally agree with jeff, and would like to add this... maniac, if you get a burm you are a fool. and i'll make a vaild point nobody has even touched on. you say you'll see your burm on weekends, WTF? i have 5 snakes, and there is no way in hell they would be anywhere near as healthy as they are now if i only tended to them a day or 2 a week. my snakes are all cared for on a daily basis. if you had a burm you saw on weekends, it'd end up living in it's own fecies for 6 days until you could get back out there to clean it up.

You are the fool will.. Read my posts -- i wouldnt be the only one taking care fo the snake, there are more then a couple of snake care takers on that damn farm, jesus christ how many times do i have to repeat my self, I read your post and made a username just so that I could reply to your little comment. I wouldnt be taking care of it JUST on weekends, it would be taken care of everyday. There are more then a handfull of expierneced keepers over there so refrain from trying to agree with your girlfriend beard, ty

y would u keep teh snake ina barn??? do u live in a barn? please dont get a Berm, it would die 4 sure.

So Maniac gets banned and comes back under the name maniaK. Is this not disrespectful? At least David had the decency to stay away. Oh and how much research have you done on a snake to even consider keeping one when you still can't spell it right. I'm sure any research on the snake would have it spelled "Burmese" and not "Burmeese"

Skipping over the drama...

Don't do it, man. Its a HUGE responsibility. Are you ready to make major life decisions according to the needs of a 200lb snake for the next 30 years? What happens when you want to move away to go to college or take a good job? What happens if **** goes down with your girl and it becomes super awkward with her cousins and they don't want to take responsibility for your animal any more? I'm not getting a burmese, but if I was, I would plan it out as if I had a wife and we wanted to have a baby. Wait until you are settled down in life and are really sure that you can commit to it and provide a secure, good environment.


Most people on this thread aren't trying to put you down, we just don't want to see you getting in a relationship with a snake that has a big probability of ending in disaster. And you're not alone! Most of us can barely find room and time for our ball pythons. Watch some of that Animal Planet Miami show and they're always catching burmeses that people thought they could handle but ended up chucking.

Yo Vanilla kick it one time boyyyyy

poop

Maniac you're about to find your IP banned from the site if you return, maybe your ISP contacted.

Nasty. You can be right and do it in such a way that everyone discounts everything you have to add. In fact you can have a valid point and have people rebel AGAINST it just to counter the spite you've put forth. Both of em need some Midol. Hail logic.


Thats soime megap00 aaron.

i hate to say it, but eh... i told you guys.

Pretty clear the poll was abit "off"and who shoulda been "banned" has shown its true colors.
Kudos to Beard for not breaking out the knee-pads 8) 8) 8)
(wish I woulda seen the poll and voted) :x

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Originally Posted by Jeff

David is right. Manaic is a n00b and would probably be killed by a burm. I don't see why everyone thinks david is an ass or egotistical. He's trying to save the herps that would be in horrible conditions otherwise. All Hail Beard!

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Godfather was exactly right in banning them both. They both got what they earned, sad to say.

Just my two cents:
I agree with David. I respect him for standing up for herps. I think every site needs some one that is willing to stand up and speak their mind when it comes to inproper husbandry and such. I dont really agree with the way he states his mind though. I think Herps and their wellfare should be a first priority for everyone. But if you are rude and unkind to some one they are not likely to listen to you.
It is sad that it had to come to these two being banned, but this is supposed to be a freindly site where everyone is welcome and everyones opinion can be stated. This is a community, not a debate forum. Now lets put this all behind us :)

I don't feel the need to elaborate a great deal. but I absolutely agree with the decision that was made on banning the both members.
I was almost ready to take a break from the forums, as on top of an extremely busy lifestyle, I just didn't want to have to keep seeing such childish behaviors.
This is a wonderful community forum, and I completely understand that everyone has different ideas on the care and husbandry of their animals. But when certain issues, ecspecially when pertaining to the ownership of burmese pythons comes up and is dealt with in such a manner as this thread, I take the matter of maturity very seriously. As you know this is of course a very passionate scenario for me.
I was glad to see some of the mature, and well written responses, and wanted to thank the members of this community who contributed in a positive manner.
You never know, by doing just that, you may have helped to save a snakes life.
And for that I thank you
Rusty

Rusty is first hand proof of someone who comes across snakes that are dumped! What you do is invaluable Rusty and for that Thank you is not enough! And I'm not Patronizing anybody :)

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Originally Posted by Marla

Godfather was exactly right in banning them both. They both got what they earned, sad to say.

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'Nuff said!

I think when a member registers they should maybe have a check box that states how much experience they have. This isn't the answer to alot of the problems that David and Maniac had. I think they just didnt play well together. And I think if someone has a problem with someone else, they need to take it "out side" so to speak. If people come here especially new member and see a post about these two boneheads that cant grow up they might get discouraged and not join. This place is not the place to have arguments and make empty threats toward people we barely know. But we all know that some personalities get along and some just clash.

I totaly agree with the God Father on this one. Both members continualy showed hostility toward each other not only in this post but in others.

There always will be people who will bash and be hostile toward other people. Even though the percentage is small. This should not be permitted under any cirumstances.

Like I said in another post there needs to be a standard in the way people are reprimanded. This will probibly not be used that often but at least new members will know what the consequences are with this type of behavior. And i think its everyone's duty as a member to report such behavior and to make this community safe and friendly to members and guests alike.

Thats all i have to say. Sorry for the wordy post.


Haha maybe i should proof read my posts.

burms are a BIG (litterally) responsibility i think they are awesome,beautiful snakes but get way to big and strong for me to handle. when they get big it usually takes a few people to handle them, do u have people that will help u when it gets that large ?

whoops i think im a little late, i didnt know this thread had five pages i thought i was pasting on page one...ohh well haha im kinda embarrased.

Hehe ya not to mention the last post before yours was two months. ;)

haha i need to start lookin at the dates.

just reading over this post, and when will touched on the fact it will be living in its own fecies, does any one have that pic that was shown in a ealier post of the 3 foot long waste log? lol
im sure that will make him have think more about it

n/m it was already broguht up

Yeah I think a mod needs to delete or lock this thread. We're such a good community here and I don't think having this around sets a good example for the new members, which I've been seeing a lot of lately.

i always hear people talking about "the mod's" who are they anyways ?? the people who run this site ?

True that - we have excellent members - and this horse was already beaten to death and smoothed over a long time ago - gonna lock it and let it sink back to the bottom. But it is borderline helpful in serving as a negative example of how NOT to behave/post and what will get you the boot.

(EDIT: TO BRANDON - in a nutshell yes - they are identifiable by the title under their names and listed on the boards - for the most part here to keep things civil and as on topic as possible, lock what needs locked, move what needs moved etc. Like this lol)

Thats short for Moderator. They are a shady bunch who lurk around the forums, like spooks or something. :wink: