I've made my choice for a CAGE

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Originally Posted by Austin C.

Honestly if your dead set on a display type cage, get a display type animal which Ball Python's are not. Get a Green Tree Python, or Amazon Tree Boa, even some cool colubrids like Rhino Rat snakes etc. All the ball python is going to do is hide regardless, your not going to walk by and see him sitting out unless your not providing a hide obviously. Ball Python's do better in tubs in racks for the simple reason it's small confined and usually dark in the rack for most breeder's and advanced keeper's. I suggest yet again like a lot of others have already is to buy a 12qt-28qt tub from Walmart and get a heat mat and zoo-med thermostat for like $50-$60 That's all you need besides a water bowl, hide, and substrate which ever you choose.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoo-Med-Rept...item1c1af153f4 this anygood?

PLEASE NO!!!!! The 500R is complete junk. Of the junk T-stats it is junk. I had one once and it was so bad I cut the probe off so no one would ever use it again even accidentally.

Herpstat intro would be my top suggestion, herpstat intro my second suggestion, and ve100 would be the cheap one but as 20$ separates them I would seriously lean to the herpstat. A t-stat is the singular most critical item in the health and well being of the snake. A good T-stat with a poor enclosure is better than the best enclosure with a poor T-stat.

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Originally Posted by kitedemon

PLEASE NO!!!!! The 500R is complete junk. Of the junk T-stats it is junk. I had one once and it was so bad I cut the probe off so no one would ever use it again even accidentally.

Herpstat intro would be my top suggestion, herpstat intro my second suggestion, and ve100 would be the cheap one but as 20$ separates them I would seriously lean to the herpstat. A t-stat is the singular most critical item in the health and well being of the snake. A good T-stat with a poor enclosure is better than the best enclosure with a poor T-stat.

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LMAO Thanks!

just paid for my new vision 211 ENCLOSURE! i'm so excited!

disregard lol I changed my mind.

what do you all think about these specs?

34 1/2L X 14W X12H

I will be using a divider in the tank. Would a ball be able to live it's entire life in a enclosure this size? What are some specs that you suggest? Thanks!

Most people use the cb70 tubs for adults. The footprint is about that size. Off the top of my head I think it's close to 33-34" L 17" W 5" T

If I was going to use a cage I might get something a little deeper that 14"

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

Most people use the cb70 tubs for adults. The footprint is about that size. Off the top of my head I think it's close to 33-34" L 17" W 5" T

If I was going to use a cage I might get something a little deeper that 14"

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so no 12w should be 14w?

I find 12 too short. I hate the short opening 7.5 inches is not large enough to clean inside easily. 34 is large even my sub-saharan female is not is that large 30x24x18 for her she is 3800 gm this morning she is larger than average. I don't think 14 is wide enough for a large adult. My ideal size would be 24x24x14 for most. I might go with a 30x24x14 or maybe 32x24x14 if I had that option.

Personally I would get a cage that was 18" w (front to back)

12" high is fine

I love you all! lol these are my choices! now this is based on me getting a baby bp, using a divider and have it live its entire life in this enclosure. I'm also buying a herpstat 1. so PLEASE PLEASE! what one should i get? Thanks in advance!

34 1/2L x 14 1/4W x 17H

24L x 24W x 14H

34 1/2 L x 14W x 12H

36L x 20W x 14H

22 1/8L x 14 1/8W x 14H

24L x 12W x 12H

Oh good point on it being harder to clean. The cages I have are 18"h. Didn't think about that.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

Oh good point on it being harder to clean. The cages I have are 18"h. Didn't think about that.

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so the 18h hard to clean?

36x20x14 1st choice

24x24x14 2nd choice

But that's a personal opinion.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

36x20x14 1st choice

24x24x14 2nd choice

But that's a personal opinion.

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you are awesome!

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Originally Posted by MrBrute

so the 18h hard to clean?

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Not hard at all

Thanks for the info! I wonder would others say lol I'm about to stop beating a dead horse and just order this, by the end of the day.

someone suggested

34 x 14 x 12

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36 x 20 x 14

Would be best.

You are placing a hatchling in this? 34x14 is narrow. (476 sq in) a 24x24 is 576 sq in so it is much bigger area and a better shape. 36x20 would be fine bit quite large for a hatchling and would take careful balance to have the animal settle in.

I assume when I get it, it will be a couple of months old

Does anyone have experience with these cages? Looks like they have the hard corners that kitedemon was saying are so difficult to clean, but they look like the best bang for your buck as far as size goes

http://www.dragons4you.net/Cages.html

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Originally Posted by Bustamove

Does anyone have experience with these cages? Looks like they have the hard corners that kitedemon was saying are so difficult to clean, but they look like the best bang for your buck as far as size goes

http://www.dragons4you.net/Cages.html

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Mine should be here next week, hear they were pretty good.


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Originally Posted by MrBrute

Mine should be here next week, hear they were pretty good.


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Did you have them install any accessories? Would definitely like an update with some pictures when it arrives :)

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Originally Posted by Bustamove

Did you have them install any accessories? Would definitely like an update with some pictures when it arrives :)

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The light fixture. What size did you get?


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The slab built ones are all about the same practical consideration wise. The extra effort in cleaning is worth a bit higher price for me as I do not have tons of free time. I just use a tooth brush to clean the corners it works fine just an extra 5 min of cleaning adds up (5 enclosures 25 min per month so an extra 5 hours per year for me.) The added height makes it much easier to reach into.

Remember if you follow correct disinfecting methods (directions of the manufacturer) you will need to remove all debris (I use a shop vac and brush) wash all the surfaces with soap and water (tooth brush the corners). Rinse all traces of soap away (I use lots of rags) dry the enclosure, SATURATE with disinfectant that means re applying it to ceiling for the full contact time 30min for many 10 min for commercial reptile ones usually (f10 & CHG/CHD) All that scrubbing in a 7 inch opening is a right pain in the butt I end up with scuff marks on my arms from the edges of the opening. Taller enclosures have taller doors... my 14 open 9 inches. The 18 inch ones can be hard to heat so i don't usually recommend them unless you have a heated snake room.