No more Native Earth on National Pet Pharmacy?

National Pet Pharmacy is a joke!!!:colbert: Twice now they have screwed me over...I understand its business!! But...why not give your loyal customers a heads up?? Also bad business isnt any business in my book...its juat plain ignorance!!

I will be looking as well for a cheaper solution...if I find something I will post it on this thread for your guys! Thanks everyone for the help on other products :)

FYI

The Pet Food Direct price for the 5 bags of Native Earth is $127.44, with discount, shipping, etc. That translates to $31.86 per 50lbs. We were paying $21.20 per 50lbs. before this change. That's a 50% increase in cost.

Ya I won't use them again for anything, a heads up would have been a different story and I understand it's business but shafting your loyal customers is bad business IMO. I'm ordering Kent's from a local feed store, $18 for a 50 pound bag sounds better since I'm flying through 100 pounds plus a month anyways lol. Good luck everyone hope you get your rat food situations squared away ASAP.:)

I'm still working on finding an alternative rodent food but I found something that might work for some people and is available from Purina distributors. You can find Purina distributors on Mazuri's site.

Nature's Match Complete Sow Oval (3/4 inch pellets) $15.99 for 50 lbs

I'm sure you could find it cheaper than my high end feed store.

http://swine.purinamills.com/OurProd...CMD008335.aspx

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

I'm still working on finding an alternative rodent food but I found something that might work for some people and is available from Purina distributors. You can find Purina distributors on Mazuri's site.

Nature's Match Complete Sow Oval (3/4 inch pellets) $15.99 for 50 lbs

I'm sure you could find it cheaper than my high end feed store.

http://swine.purinamills.com/OurProd...CMD008335.aspx

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thanks, I'll have to see if I can get this ordered.

I found a dealer that is giving me Mazuri 6F (50 lbs.) for $23.50 a bag. Sales tax brings it up to $25.15 compared to Native Earth at $31.86.

Mazuri quality is better. I was getting 1-3 pounds of dust in the 40 lb. bags of NE, something I don't see in the Mazuri bags.

I would love to get Kent for $14-$18 for 50 lbs. but it's just not available anywhere near me.
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I'll mention this for anyone that cares to follow through and maybe make some money. I found local mills that would duplicate any existing food and bag it. They have a 500 lb. minimum and you would need to find a mill that has a die to create the block form but it can be done. You could become the manufacturer and sell locally. Cost was minimal and there was room to make a profit. Good luck.

I'll be calling up my local store this week to ask about getting the bales of aspen and/or kiln dried pine too. Nat Pet still hasn't called me about the autoship issue, since I still had the aspen(one bale!) on the autoship option.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

I'll be calling up my local store this week to ask about getting the bales of aspen and/or kiln dried pine too. Nat Pet still hasn't called me about the autoship issue, since I still had the aspen(one bale!) on the autoship option.

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I get this stuff from Tractor Supply for $4.99.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tractor...cu-ft--1011129

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

I get this stuff from Tractor Supply for $4.99.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tractor...cu-ft--1011129

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Now, if I can just get them to order rodent food (or equivalent sow chow), then I'll be all set.

I found the Mazuri 6F (50lb bag) within 10 miles for $27+tax locally. This is about the same price per bag for the 40lb Native Earth after shipping and tax with PFD... As a bonus they carry the kiln dried pine cheaper than I was getting it too (not from NPP or PFD). Unfortunately, the closest Tractor Supply to me is over 100 miles away in Bakersfield :tears:

Would have preferred to stay with Native Earth, but at least now I can say a final good riddance to National Pet Pharmacy and Pet Food Direct. :gj:

Where are you located? New Jersey?

I get Mazuri 6F for 20 a bag and can get Kent for 11 a bag in Kansas City

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

I found a dealer that is giving me Mazuri 6F (50 lbs.) for $23.50 a bag. Sales tax brings it up to $25.15 compared to Native Earth at $31.86.

Mazuri quality is better. I was getting 1-3 pounds of dust in the 40 lb. bags of NE, something I don't see in the Mazuri bags.

I would love to get Kent for $14-$18 for 50 lbs. but it's just not available anywhere near me.
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I'll mention this for anyone that cares to follow through and maybe make some money. I found local mills that would duplicate any existing food and bag it. They have a 500 lb. minimum and you would need to find a mill that has a die to create the block form but it can be done. You could become the manufacturer and sell locally. Cost was minimal and there was room to make a profit. Good luck.

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I'm using the Tractor Supply pine/aspen myself. I'm kind of hoping that the feed store might just have something cheaper.

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

I get Mazuri 6F for 20 a bag and can get Kent for 11 a bag in Kansas City

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Great prices but the trade off is that you have to live in Kansas City. :p

Wow, this just SUCKS! I just barely got my first order, and started raising rats! Oh well. i'll have to search it out more thoroughly for mazuri.

Is the ammonia a lot higher with mazuri 6f? How about adults eating babies? Are they happy with 6f? Man, what a bummer.

Mazuri was just about $20 at my local feed store(50 lb bag, the 25 lb bag was around $15?), I was looking for the darn receipt but can't find it. I've got another 4 bags on order for next week.

They said in order to get the 16-5 rodent feed I'd have to order 3 tons. That's a bit more feed than I can transport and store, honestly. :P

I did get the hog feed pellets(turned out to be the little pellets, not chunks) but the rats do NOT like it, and hide it rather than eat it. Even the small feeders don't eat it very well. So I have the feed store looking at the "sow cubes" too.

They also had the pine shavings/shred for extremely cheap(less than Tractor Supply). And the guys called me ma'am again. Teehee. There's something about young guys in cowboy boots who doff their hat to you and call you ma'am.

Here's some stuff I found out about Native Earth.

It's Harlan's recipe and they sell it as Global 2018. The feed is made in a mill in Wisconsin. Any of the feed that is not up to Harlan's standards is bagged and sold under different names. On the east coast it is sold to PFD/NPP as Native Earth and also to Sand Valley Farms as their 4018. It may be sold to other companies under other names but these are the only ones on the east coast, both in PA. Sand Valley also sells the Harlan aspen, same as PFD. I was told they all the feed goes through the same extruder so they're the same shape but only the best product goes to Harlan.

If you're anywhere near Richfield, PA you can get it from Sand Valley Farms cheaper than PFD.

http://www.sandvalleyfarms.com/

I'm still working on getting Kent sold near me. Blue Seal is part of Kent. If anyone is near a Blue Seal dealer that orders from the Hagerstown, MD warehouse, you can get Kent starting next week. Call the dealer for a price because it is new to them. The dealers that use Hagerstown are not just in MD. They cover a big area so call and ask. I'm working on getting it to the Arcade, NY warehouse to cover my area.

http://www.blueseal.com/company/dealerlocate.php

Tractor Supply in my area can not order Mazuri, even though Mazuri's website says they are a distributor. Now, going to have to look at smaller feed stores, further away.

Edit: Local feed store can order it in Petersburg, VA. Not the most convenient, but within a half hour's drive.

Saw someone posting on facebook about it. These guys are back under a new name, Pet360. They're offering a decent deal on the feed if you buy the 5 pack, with free shipping.

You guys know how they are. You better stock up before they pull their usual unannounced price raise.

http://www.pet360.com/product/9093/n...nt-diet-40-lbs

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Originally Posted by Shadera

Saw someone posting on facebook about it.

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Yup. That was me. :)

Yeah, the price is very good right now. Hope they stick with it for a while.
To ship 2 50lb bags from Mazuri directly, it's 64$.
It's $85 shipped for 5 bags of 40lb bags of Harlan(Native Earth).

So, $86 for 200 lbs vs $64 for 100lbs.