Pieds...ASTOUNDINGLY overrated.

I want an albino pied!

While not fond of peids myself, and honestly believe any bp priced over $1k is over rated they're bp's no matter how their painted, I'm not saying they're not beautiful I just couldn't see paying so much for one. But that's just a hypocritical opinion, my dream (Red cheeked Eastern Indigo) runs easily $1200 - $2500.

It's all opinion, we're all entitled to it. But expressing that without insulting others requires a little tact. As well as treating someone like crap for stating their opinion.
A lot of this thread had good discussion right up to the point where people started attacking the op.

I'm picking up a high white male pied tonight from my airport. :banana: Just maybe his picture will show up sometime tonight on this thread for all the piebald haters to see. :P

Spin it as you wish...

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A lot of this thread had good discussion right up to the point where people started defending pieds.

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Sounds better...

My most sincere apologies. Was attempting to "discuss" something that we can all relate to in one way or another, no big deal. My complete inability to be "offended" by anything always becomes debilitating when trying to get my point across in the most direct "to the point" way possible...I personally couldn't care less. :)

Conversation is supposed to be fun. Carry on.

I always saw pieds as overrated also, though I can see the appeal tho, but there's other morphs I'd rather be dealing with. Clown IMO is a way more stunning recessive pattern morph.

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And this is the pic of the enchi albino I saw.

http://www.captivebredreptileforums....binoenchi1.jpg

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I'm honestly shocked I never saw that.... I figure people would be passing that picture around, I think my jaw literally dropped. Looks like i'm adding enchi to my collection.

To each their own.

I find them visually pleasing. The aesthetic appeal, coupled with the unknown (i.e., the recent Caramel and Lemonblast Pieds...wow) keeps me enthusiastic about my current and future pied projects.

Just another turd to take a gander at ;) But again, to each their own

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...g/P1010069.jpg

I absolutely love pieds but not all of the combos. My very favorite to date though is this
Lemon blast pied produced very recently by Evan Stahl:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/a68989f2-6720-64cf.jpg
He sent this pic to me and I drooled for quite awhile on my phone.
I'm not a fan of spieds though. Kinda underwhelming. I do like a nice albino pied. But again to each his own.


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I always saw pieds as overrated also, though I can see the appeal tho, but there's other morphs I'd rather be dealing with. Clown IMO is a way more stunning recessive pattern morph.



I'm honestly shocked I never saw that.... I figure people would be passing that picture around, I think my jaw literally dropped. Looks like i'm adding enchi to my collection.

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I agree, Clowns are my favorite recessive. I'm definitely way more into co-doms...and Enchis are a must for everyone. I need to get a female or 2 myself.

While pieds are some of my favorite morphs, certain ones do absolutely nothing for me.

But a snake I cannot stand no matter what it's combined with ? Champagne.

I know it's heresy, but I think they are just about the ugliest ball morph in the world, and so are the combos. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. I don't even think I'd own a champagne pied if there were one.

But one persons trash is another persons treasure, and wouldn't life be boring if we were all just alike!

Gale

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But a snake I cannot stand no matter what it's combined with ? Champagne.

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Hypo

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Originally Posted by zach_24_90

See I feel like this about stupid morphs like specters, mystics and spotnose... They are just stupid normal balls that ppl make up stupid things about and charge an arm and a leg for.. At least with pieds they look visually different.

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Really, REALLY?

Making up stuff? Stupid normals? Accusing breeders of lying?

I am dumbfounded over this post :confused:

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Really, REALLY?

Making up stuff? Stupid normals? Accusing breeders of lying?

I am dumbfounded over this post :confused:

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THIS post? 1/2 the posts on BP.NET!!! :rofl:

I'm going to get in trouble for this one...

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Really, REALLY?

Making up stuff? Stupid normals? Accusing breeders of lying?

I am dumbfounded over this post :confused:

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I saw that too. :)

...part of me wonders if the individual is joking, because...yeah.

Psssst!! :whisper:

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While pieds are some of my favorite morphs, certain ones do absolutely nothing for me.

But a snake I cannot stand no matter what it's combined with ? Champagne.

I know it's heresy, but I think they are just about the ugliest ball morph in the world, and so are the combos. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. I don't even think I'd own a champagne pied if there were one.

But one persons trash is another persons treasure, and wouldn't life be boring if we were all just alike!

Gale

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Until about 3 weeks ago I agreed with you and then I saw this;

http://pythonregius.com/enchichampagneballpythons.aspx


dr del

Just read the whole thread I respect everyone's opinion likes and dislikes we just have to be careful with the way we share that opinion thats all. By the way I'm gonna share a fact.


Pied's are still KING and will be king way down the line this is no opinion this is fact. Rock on!!:gj:

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Psssst!! :whisper:



Until about 3 weeks ago I agreed with you and then I saw this;

http://pythonregius.com/enchichampagneballpythons.aspx


dr del

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Geez i promised Myself no more BP's Till I prove my Granite female.. but now... I... must.... have... Enchi...... Noo... I must....resist......:sabduel:

I just want a BEL but I can't afford it :please::rofl:

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Psssst!! :whisper:



Until about 3 weeks ago I agreed with you and then I saw this;

http://pythonregius.com/enchichampagneballpythons.aspx


dr del

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Ok Derek,

I'll give you that one. While it's not a snake I would own, it's not quite as ugly as most champagnes. :P

Gale

Well here is my little ugly boy I just picked up from the airport. I think he is so ugly I may just have to send him back, or maybe one of you can have him. :mad:

:D

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9729/imag057911.jpg

LOVE HIM!

He has the perfect amount of white on him!

Love love love!
:)

Perfect Pied Carlene!!

To Ryan...we know dude..we've been hearing it for yrs......here..there......you hate Pieds..got it. But the part I found extremely funny is you saying Pieds are like turds....that Super Cinny you just produced that you are extremely amazed by and in complete awe of finally having one of your own to hold and look at any time you want....you do realize that it will brown out and look like a big turd in a tub, right....just sayin......

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Well here is my little ugly boy I just picked up from the airport. I think he is so ugly I may just have to send him back, or maybe one of you can have him. :mad:

:D

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9729/imag057911.jpg

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If you want to get rid of that ugly little guy, toss him my way. He can keep my ugly little girl company.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...inthegrass.jpg

I personally go for darker morphs, theres nothing like a great and dark pewter. ;)

Dark snake, coming up...

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...darthie004.jpg

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Well here is my little ugly boy I just picked up from the airport. I think he is so ugly I may just have to send him back, or maybe one of you can have him. :mad:

:D

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9729/imag057911.jpg

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I'll take him! I'll take him! What a beauty! :wuv:

the only pieds i like are high white panda pieds or really extreme low white pieds that look smudged on top with the only white being on their bellies :) the morphs i would rather not add to a collection would be butter bellies, calicos or champagne pastel yellowbelly but i really want the citrus mocha yellow belly!

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If you want to get rid of that ugly little guy, toss him my way. He can keep my ugly little girl company.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...inthegrass.jpg

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Wow she is stunning, they'd make a great couple. Then we'd have a bunch of clorox bleach babies :D

Maybe just one more picture of my little guy, I'm in love. :rolleye2:

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5438/imag0585y.jpg

Haha...I like where this thread is going. All those with Pieds, please post up pics! As many as possible. If I had one (which I hope to some day) I'd be sure to post up some pics. Not liking something is one thing, but being an insulting, offensive jerk is another. Let's see those Pieds folks!!!!!!

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http://www.piedpeddler.com/data/stor...956a379a71.jpg

Hey Ryan,
I was kind of wandering... Does a Silver Bullet even have a white belly or is the whole thing just shades of gray, nose to tail and top to bottom?
- Paul

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Hey Ryan,
I was kind of wandering... Does a Silver Bullet even have a white belly or is the whole thing just shades of gray, nose to tail and top to bottom?
- Paul

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Is that a yellowbelly pied? So beautiful with the perfect amount of white to pattern ratio.

i'm not sure my opinion would matter since so many ppl have responded to this already but i'm a major fan of the pied, the pumpkin pied specifically & although i agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion as stated many times, i frown on the need to be so nasty over it.
it's asking for problems to come on a community site of reptile lovers and bash something so many ppl here love & cherish.

so...

i wanna see them pieds too!
gotta see some of those babies that look like they fell out of the ugly tree & hit every branch on the way down :rofl:

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Is that a yellowbelly pied? So beautiful with the perfect amount of white to pattern ratio.

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Yes, he's a YB Pied, AKA "Pumpkin Pied".
Thank you for the kind comment!
- Paul

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While pieds are some of my favorite morphs, certain ones do absolutely nothing for me.

But a snake I cannot stand no matter what it's combined with ? Champagne.
I know it's heresy, but I think they are just about the ugliest ball morph in the world, and so are the combos. I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. I don't even think I'd own a champagne pied if there were one.

But one persons trash is another persons treasure, and wouldn't life be boring if we were all just alike!

Gale

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I'm with you on that one! However, I must say, I DO like the enchi champagne. But would I own one? Only if it was a pet, because I have no desire to produce champagnes when breeding it.

[to piedpeddler's little pumpkin pied]....

:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:

AMEN to that little gem!

i dont care for black pastels or cinny's dark snakes like that to me = ugly

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I love me some Piebalds.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file..._0427_copy.jpg
Pieds...ASTOUNDINGLY awesome.

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OOH, I like that one!

[QUOTE=PiedPeddler;1616737]http://www.piedpeddler.com/data/stor...956a379a71.jpg

Hey Paul! It's Calen from the Bay Area. Any clutches down yet this year? I know u said they are all going down pretty late.. Just curious. BTW, the spider het pied girl I got from u is doing great! Getting bigger and continues to have quite the funny attitude. Haha. Always keeps me on my toes. Hope all is well! Cheers.

Calen

my boy in shed
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...1/DSC01628.jpg

To each their own.:gj:

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i dont care for black pastels or cinny's dark snakes like that to me = ugly

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Cover your ears scarlet :O
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT5861.jpg

There's different paint jobs for different people. That's why this hobby and python is so popular. The genetic diversity is still being discovered! That's all I'm going to say about it. My signature states my obvious opinion on the matter ;D

Regards,

B

They have been my favorite morph since I first saw one around 12 years ago.

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my boy in shed
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...1/DSC01628.jpg

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Hey Dennis, is he het for anything? Hes a great looking boy.

Here is the one I got from you. He is doing great!

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/IMG_1356.jpg

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Perfect Pied Carlene!!

To Ryan...we know dude..we've been hearing it for yrs......here..there......you hate Pieds..got it. But the part I found extremely funny is you saying Pieds are like turds....that Super Cinny you just produced that you are extremely amazed by and in complete awe of finally having one of your own to hold and look at any time you want....you do realize that it will brown out and look like a big turd in a tub, right....just sayin......

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I said ALBINOS end up looking like big YELLOW turds, not Pieds. Pieds look like vomit. Read more closely next time.

It amuses me so thoroughly that people actually get offended over one person's opinion about a mutated gene in an animal. Haha! Who cares?! :rofl:

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Cover your ears scarlet :O
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT5861.jpg

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Wow...Stunning Cinny you have there. Should make excellent Supers, etc. :)

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Read more closely next time.

It amuses me so thoroughly that people actually get offended over one person's opinion about a mutated gene in an animal. Haha! Who cares?! :rofl:

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And THAT, I think, was the entire reason for this post.

Don't feed the troll comes to mind, but it's not really trolling, more like bludgeoning a hidden bruise you already know is there, tender and blue and painful.

Actually, it's because I've unfortunately caught some of the newest Pied mutations that are, of course, totally white with a smudged head. And I was just reminded that they'll never possibly redeem themselves in my eyes, no matter how many projects they're bred into...And I was bored at work.

Thanks, Wes! :)

Lots of great looking animals being posted here!

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Hey Paul! It's Calen from the Bay Area. Any clutches down yet this year? I know u said they are all going down pretty late.. Just curious. BTW, the spider het pied girl I got from u is doing great! Getting bigger and continues to have quite the funny attitude. Haha. Always keeps me on my toes. Hope all is well! Cheers.

Calen

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Hey Calen, I’m glad you are enjoying her! We should have some fun stuff out of the egg in September but I shouldn’t go into details here. I wouldn’t want to detract from the noble intentions and eloquently stated viewpoints of the OP.:P
- Paul