Is it safe for humans to eat mice???

I couldn't bring myself to read this entire thread, so I'm just going to leave this here and be on my way.

The box of frozen mice available at most pet stores says "Not for human consumption". You decide.

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Originally Posted by MikeV

Oh yeah, if you keep the toes they make really good tooth-picks

just thought id share that information with you.

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That's just disgusting, but since you are from Canada I forgive you. :)

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Originally Posted by EvesFriend

Dude, come on. If my girlfriend saw a freaking dead mouse in our freezer she'd kill me. She'd literally think I was a psycho and on some crazy drugs!

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HMM and what do you think we are ALL thinking.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

HMM and what do you think we are ALL thinking.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

HMM and what do you think we are ALL thinking.

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Originally Posted by EvesFriend

That's just disgusting, but since you are from Canada I forgive you. :)

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Na im really from Venezuela. I put that I am from Canada because when I was 5 my father actually kidnapped me from Canada and brought me to Venezuela, where he taught me in the art of Capybara tracking and harvesting

I am actually a 4 time world champion Capybara lassooer

Mice are edible. Snakes, dogs, cats, rodents, fish, frogs, turtles, insects, and most other animals are edible too. Don't eat the fur, bones or bowels (or poisonous parts), and you should be fine. Use safe food-handling techniques and cook it thoroughly. Chew well, and don't talk while you eat.


Is it sad that the last time I went to the zoo, I discussed each animal by what it might taste like?

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Originally Posted by Pokersnake

Is it sad that the last time I went to the zoo, I discussed each animal by what it might taste like?

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No it isn't... I put tread about eating reptiles and Amphibians in off Topic section... not that long ago...
Because I was working as cook on Florida i always wonder.. How it taste ???

Ok in some seriousness the british SAS survival guide warns quite strongly against eating rodents. The risk of Weil’s disease is high and it is quiet nasty. However I don't think that a lab grade rodent would carry Weil’s but it simply isn't worth the risk. I have eaten tons of odd things, a grab bag of insects, brains some weird shell fish thing that I have no idea what it is. My advise toast up some crickets, much better for you.

Well, if eating a mouse was gonna make you sick or kill you, it would certainly be if you left it sit for a couple of days at room temperature.

People do eat guinea pigs and those are pretty much rodents. I have heard many accounts of people eating rats. Mice I would imagine are more like popcorn or chips than an actual meal. One just ends up making you hungrier.

If it came down to survival, I don't think eating a rat or mouse would be an issue, but I'd for darn sure be smart about it, just like with squirrel or rabbit. Kill it quick, gut it quicker, and chill or cook it within an hour.

Gale

fava beans and a nice ciante :gj:

Throw it in the bushes and let mother nature take care of it dont be a damn fool

Shoot, why do you think I breed all these rats and mice?? Not for my snakes, no, no. These are tasty treats for me!! :hungry:
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Dude.......this is just gross! I cannot even find the words......:puke2:

I actually started a thread some time ago about wether or not we (breeders) would eat our rodents in the event of a natural disaster or political collapse. If there was no other food. Hmm I wonder if I can find it.

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I saw a cooking programme recently and the chef wanted to put door mouse on the menu, but they are protected in England so he found an alternative, which was these specially bred mice for human consumption. They were massive, about the size of a small to medium rat. He cooked them up and served them to some random people, and they really liked them. They said that it tasted of nuts and pork! Yum yum any way I wouldn't go eating a mouse that is meant to be snake food, I dont likee to waste any food and especially meat, but this is crazy lol!

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Originally Posted by EvesFriend

Dude, come on. If my girlfriend saw a freaking dead mouse in our freezer she'd kill me. She'd literally think I was a psycho and on some crazy drugs!

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As opposed to watching you eat a $3 mouse so it doesn't go to waste? ROFLMAO


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I just don't understand. Forgive me if someone said it before, I didn't read through all 7 pages, but I don't understand--who made the decision that it's ok to eat a cow's liver, intestines, heart and brains and RAW FISH and eggs, even drink milk from a cow's udder, but it's not ok to do the same with a mouse or rat?
On a similar subject, we can drink milk from cows and goats, but human breast milk in ice cream (Baby Gaga in UK) is considered disgusting.
Where are the people who decided this? I'd like to check them for some sort of disease that compromises their brain function and decision making abilities....I'm sure I'd find something. :weirdface

And another thing, I'll admit it makes my stomach squirm to think about eating a mouse, or drinking human breast milk. The real issue, is WHY? Why can I think about eating a chunk out of a cow's thigh and it's delicious, but not a mouse fried on a stick with some salt and pepper? French fries, ketchup, pickles--What's the deal? Why do we as people act like such picky eaters when we're capable of eating whatever we want?
Just food for thought (pun intended :D)

At first I was like...

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But then I was like...

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Srs tho

Hi,

There's actually some reasoning behind these decisions - I'm not saying it is good reasoning but it is there;

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

I just don't understand. Forgive me if someone said it before, I didn't read through all 7 pages, but I don't understand--who made the decision that it's ok to eat a cow's liver, intestines, heart and brains and RAW FISH and eggs, even drink milk from a cow's udder, but it's not ok to do the same with a mouse or rat?

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This is mainly to do with the perception that rodents are eating garbage and therefore could be harbouring more diseasees and toxins. Far from entirely accurate - especially given the size of fish near sewage outlets and the occasional mercury spike/ red tide.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

On a similar subject, we can drink milk from cows and goats, but human breast milk in ice cream (Baby Gaga in UK) is considered disgusting.
Where are the people who decided this? I'd like to check them for some sort of disease that compromises their brain function and decision making abilities....I'm sure I'd find something. :weirdface

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There is actually some fairly good reasons not to eat human produced products ( cannibalism being a somewhat more extreme version :P ) and it is simply this;

Any disease or other problem contained in the product is 100% certain to be able to infect humans. Not that many diseases/ parasites can cross the species barrier.

And to the OP - get a grip. Wasted food is just something that is going to happen - next time just freeze it and keep it in a tupperware box in the freezer and try to convert them to F/T with it later. That would also cut down the price you pay for the rodents.


dr del

my father has been to korea he had rat(gi buddy dared him is the story) said it was gamey:gj:

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Originally Posted by EvesFriend

Put it in a pot and make soup??? What do ya think I am a witch or somethin?

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Dude if i wrote down my thoughts about you i KNOW i would get some bad boy points :rofl::rofl::rofl:.So i will be nice for now :rolleyes:

Not eating rodents comes from a cultual bias.

I ate bbq paddy rats a few times when I was living overseas. They didn't taste like chicken. They tasted like squirrel, which is also a rodent, and delicious when properly prepared. Groundhog is also good to eat, and it's a rodent too.

Redneck crow is right. Not eating rodents is cultural. We associate rodents with disease and death (which they cause.) The famous rat catchers of india eat rats, and its all they eat. They are paid by the Indian government to catch and exterminate rats from crop fields. They see that if they just leave them out to rot, that woul be a waste....so...they eat them. However, many a rat catcher has died from eating the bodies of infected rats.

If you are not a troll, and are really serious about this, than by all means go ahead and eat it. Your rat is captive bred and most likely safe to eat.

eww, I wouldn't do it. If you just killed it and you want to save it freeze it. As long as it hasn't already been frozen. (you can't refreeze meat) Then you could heat it up and try it again on your snake.

As for trying to feed it to your mouse that seem kinda mean. I try not to let the mice/rats in my house know their future until the moment it comes.

This is the greatest troll thread in the history of these forums. Ever. Period.

I lolled greatly. Props to OP for keepign it going for so long.

Though it may be a troll thread, it raises some interesting questions about human decisions and perceptions....
We have the capacity to be on the top of the food chain, and yet we are one of the pickiest animals.
We weren't even supposed to eat meat in the first place, and yet we convinced ourselves meat is good--but only THIS meat, not this one.
Pigs eat slop. Leftover spoiled pieces of food. Uh...ew?
However, people that raise pigs for food specifically raise them in significantly better situations in terms of the food they eat (most of the time). Why could someone not do the same with a mouse? Breed them specifically for people to eat?
I'm really intrigued by some of the thought processes behind everybody's reasoning--including my own stomach squirming at the thought of mice as food.
However, with disease being a concern--cooking food at high temps will kill most bacteria. Why do we still eat cows remembering "mad cow disease", but we won't eat people?
I honestly can't say that if, after somebody died and donated their body to be food, I wouldn't at least try it.
All animals can harbor all sorts of diseases, and humans can catch a lot of them, but not if the food is properly handled and cooked...I can't think that human meat would be different, or rodents.
Just a thought. I'm not going to run out and eat frozen snake food, but I do love to ponder some of the psychology behind our reasoning as humans.

Eat it raw. Like your snake would. Swollow it whole. I dare you.

Hi,

Couple of clarifications/ points to consider.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

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We have the capacity to be on the top of the food chain, and yet we are one of the pickiest animals.

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As a species we really aren't picky compared to most of the animal kingdom - it's one of the reasons we spread so well through the various habitats.

That's not to say western culture hasn't become far more selective in what we will or wont eat - but that is purely because we can afford to.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

We weren't even supposed to eat meat in the first place, and yet we convinced ourselves meat is good--but only THIS meat, not this one.

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Actually we are expressely designed to be able to eat both meat and some vegetable matter - from the shape of our teeth, through the design and length of our digestive tract and the bacteria that colonise them.

In fact we can digest any kind of meat but only a tiny fraction of the plant kingdom.

This omniverous diet is the reason we adapt so well to different ecosystems - we very rarely find one without something we can eat in it.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

Pigs eat slop. Leftover spoiled pieces of food. Uh...ew?

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Some do - but not many in the western agricultural system. They get specifically formulated and controlled diets designed to promote the insanely fast growth we have selectively bred the animals for.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

......However, with disease being a concern--cooking food at high temps will kill most bacteria. Why do we still eat cows remembering "mad cow disease", but we won't eat people?

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Most is a highly important word in these circumstances. It does nothing for quite a few problems - including mad cow disease.

Also we most definately do not eat the part of the cows affected by mad cow disease. The brain and spinal cord ( where the pesky prions are that cause the problems ) are completely discarded and any meat contaminated by them is also discarded.

And again - this is because we think it may be able to jump species. It started out as a sheep disease called scrapey ( well over here that's what it is called ) and only jumped to cows when the feed given to cattle had the bodies of those infected sheep added to it.

So far nobody has proven it has ever jumped from sheep to humans though - which is why we don't have mad sheep disease. :D

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

I honestly can't say that if, after somebody died and donated their body to be food, I wouldn't at least try it.
All animals can harbor all sorts of diseases, and humans can catch a lot of them, but not if the food is properly handled and cooked...I can't think that human meat would be different, or rodents.

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Just make sure you find out what they died from. And, as said, the fact it is human meat means anything it contained can affect humans.

And really there aren't that many diseases of animals that can infect us - that's why we make a big fuss when we find one like HN51 or rabies.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

Just a thought. I'm not going to run out and eat frozen snake food, but I do love to ponder some of the psychology behind our reasoning as humans.

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It's a good attitude and habit to have - working out what makes us behave the way we do can never be a bad thing. Even if it occasionally makes you want to kick the whole human race in the britches. ;)


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Originally Posted by MasonC2K

This is the greatest troll thread in the history of these forums. Ever. Period.

I lolled greatly. Props to OP for keepign it going for so long.

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LOL go back a few pages and see how hard i trolled him.

so epic

My snake turned down his meal yesterday I sure wish I had read this thread before I tossed the rat off the balcony :rofl:
I do have one question I think we are all thinking Did you eat it?? and what did it taste like?? :weirdface

I'm gonna go thaw me out a couple for lunch tomorrow. This thread has made me hungry :rofl::8:

My snakes would hate me if I dipped into their groceries. They are bottomless pits.

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I am dead serious. I mean humans eat chickens and cows and all that

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Do you realize that the meat we eat is being processed first and not swallowed whole :confused:

Of course you can always process the mouse yourself :rofl: skin it, gut it and clean it like you would any other animal (good luck with that :rolleyes:) and than cook it to your liking :rofl: :rolleyes: whatever floats your boat I guess :rolleyes:

Want some Worcestershire sauce with that :rofl:

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Originally Posted by EvesFriend

She'd literally think I was a psycho and on some crazy drugs!

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I think she might be dead on :gj:

Now seriously while other cultures or extreme circumstances might lead people to eat what we consider bizarre food making a thread about eating a mouse for the sake of saving $1 is the MOST absurd thing I have ever read on this forum...........congrats for that :gj:

Dude! I eat squirre before soo I don't think that is that bad ofcouse they came from the wild but I think if you cook it well and make sure you clean/prepare
The mean right away to avoid contamination you'll be fine.

ps. Don't forget to put salt on the meat before you cook it, it doesn't taste that good if you put the salt after. . . Been there

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As other posters have pointed out, mice don't have much meat on them. I suppose you could make them pets and fatten them up but in the usual case you are frying eggs in the kitchen and one of the varmints scoots between your slippers.

If you`re swift you can stomp on the tail of the varmint and then wring its wretched neck. But as I said there`s not going to be much meat on it.

However you can harvest the innards. Unless you are in a state of utter deprivation, and heaven forbid you have a family to feed, you can discard the intestines unless you are feeling industrious enough to make little sausages.

The brain is tiny but tasty. A special treat for someone special.

This thread is 5 years old. The OP isn't even active on here anymore.

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This thread is 5 years old. The OP isn't even active on here anymore.

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But ho boy am I glad that this thread resurfaced, that was a real treat to read 😂 best thing I've seen in a while

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Hope your joking... mice/rats are disease ridden animals and you can almost guarantee parasites if you eat them. I think im gonna puke just thinking about it!

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Originally Posted by highqualityballz

Hope your joking... mice/rats are disease ridden animals and you can almost guarantee parasites if you eat them. I think im gonna puke just thinking about it!

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You would be surprised what even smart people will do if they are hungry enough. When I was attending a NATO SERE school in Europe we had a British SAS guy eat road kill. He ended up having to take a helicopter ride to the hospital.

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Originally Posted by highqualityballz

Hope your joking... mice/rats are disease ridden animals and you can almost guarantee parasites if you eat them. I think im gonna puke just thinking about it!

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If the rodents you're feeding your snakes are disease ridden and parasitic, so are your snakes ;). I hope you've found a better supplier than that. Rack-raised rodents ought to be about the cleanest animals you could get. You don't want to know how they raise chickens. . .:P

I didn't read the entire epic thread, lol, so I'm sure someone already addressed it. But, sure, humans CAN eat mice. Do you WANT to eat mice? Prolly not. Awfully bony. Same reason we don't eat sparrows or other tiny critters---too much work for not enough meat. But my uncles have stories of roasting rats (filthy tropical rats, not nice sanitary feeder rats) over a fire in Vietnam, and they're still alive. So knock yerself out. People will look at you a little weird though, haha.

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Originally Posted by Willowy

If the rodents you're feeding your snakes are disease ridden and parasitic, so are your snakes ;). I hope you've found a better supplier than that. Rack-raised rodents ought to be about the cleanest animals you could get. You don't want to know how they raise chickens. . .:P

I didn't read the entire epic thread, lol, so I'm sure someone already addressed it. But, sure, humans CAN eat mice. Do you WANT to eat mice? Prolly not. Awfully bony. Same reason we don't eat sparrows or other tiny critters---too much work for not enough meat. But my uncles have stories of roasting rats (filthy tropical rats, not nice sanitary feeder rats) over a fire in Vietnam, and they're still alive. So knock yerself out. People will look at you a little weird though, haha.

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He said he is on a budget and willing to eat mice. My guess is someone willing to eat mice dont care if its a quality mouse or not, and if its from a petstore its most likely not. Im disgusted by the thought of eating mice and would not touch one with a 10ft pole even if its the cleanest mouse in the world.

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He said he is on a budget and willing to eat mice. My guess is someone willing to eat mice dont care if its a quality mouse or not, and if its from a petstore its most likely not. Im disgusted by the thought of eating mice and would not touch one with a 10ft pole even if its the cleanest mouse in the world.

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You would be surprised how quickly that thought process changes after you have gone some time without food.

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Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan

You would be surprised how quickly that thought process changes after you have gone some time without food.

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I mean yeah of course you gotta do what you gotta do, but if it was between owning a snake and eating mice or not owning a snake and being about to afford food. I wouldnt have snakes.

If you've ever read Never Cry Wolf, by Farley Mowat, he actually did an experiment that required him to survive on eating mice through the winter. No one would believe that wolves ate mice all winter, because they were big predators and how could they survive on little animals with no meat?

They totally can. So can we. You just have to eat a LOT of mice if that's all your eating or it's your primary protein source.

Your best bet is to fry it, bread it and fry it, or deep fry it. You might get grossed out by chewing it. I would suggest getting it into two pieces you can just swallow.