what can i buy with USD33,000?

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

I'm just trying to figure you out. If you have USD$33,000 why would you want to start from the ground up? Too much time, too much to go wrong. Why not buy what you're interested in breeding and be done with it?

Jim Smith

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after i discus with my friend,he tell me to learn about the breeding process 1st,because i still dont have the experience in that,so i start with a small scale 1st with based morphs.so i came up with idea to try bumblebee n bel.after i success in my first breeding project,i will start the $33k project again.

p/s:i read someone said i just pick $33k as random number.fyi,if $33k convert to my currency,it become MYR100k.so it not a random number.

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Originally Posted by ryan427

if i where u i would use 13000 and leave the rest in my pocket :gj:

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errrrr.....sorry.i dont understand what u mean.please explain a little bit more.

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Originally Posted by psychophobia

ok,1st i want to say sorry if i make some of you mad at me.but, i am not joking about what i said earlier just today i already set up my mind.i will spend money on something that i want.no more $33k or 7 burmese that i release to the wild or something like that.i will start again but in small,i already know how to handle bp n all about husbandry.i already ask many thing with my local vet,n i think i am ready to start.after long discussion with my friend,he suggest to me to start with bumblebee n black eye leucistic.so i just need 1 spider,1 pastel n 2 fire + 1 albino to pair with my normal.i already find a rack with ryan help(thank ryan).about the incubator,it too early i think to buy it now or i can learn how to make one myself.

but i still need ur help.if u know any breeder that give good price of the snake that i list below.please inform me.(i try to check the link that ryan give but some of them sell het or they dont have stock right now)

-albino(male)
-spider(male)
-pastel(female)
-fire(male n female)

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Originally Posted by psychophobia

i know about the market potential here.it not like other country,but it still active.but for limited morphs(cheap) like pastel,spider,albino n fire.not many seller in my country try to breed bp.they just buy from oversea n sale with higher price here.normal bp here is around $100.but when i see normal bp in constrictor unlimited,it just $25.another example,bumblebee is around $1300.i think it must be the reason why no one want to buy bp in asia.

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I don't know, maybe I'm just a Doubting Thomas, but there are a few things this guy's typing that has a lot of Western flare to it. Then he goes back to broken English at best, then another western term, then back to broken English. Along with some other things, I bellieve this isn't who we think it is.

I may be wrong, but I have my doubts.
Jim Smith

i know i am not good in english,sometime i use the word that i usually heard or read n sometime i try to think the sentence myself,we dont talk english here.english is our second language.but i am still learn english to communicate with people like all of u.i am still learning from time to time.u know how hard for me to understand what u write.sometime i need to use google translate to know what u r talking about.i know my english is bad,but i try give the best for u to understand.

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Originally Posted by psychophobia

i know i am not good in english,sometime i use the word that i usually heard or read n sometime i try to think the sentence myself,we dont talk english here.english is our second language.but i am still learn english to communicate with people like all of u.i am still learning from time to time.u know how hard for me to understand what u write.sometime i need to use google translate to know what u r talking about.i know my english is bad,but i try give the best for u to understand.

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I can understand you just fine :) Most people can't speak a foreign language anyway, so communicating with anyone in another language is an achievement. :)

Well if you want to produce albino's.. Albino + normal = normal het. albino, so you will not get albino here either

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Originally Posted by psychophobia

so what do you want me to do?sell it?lolz!we can catch or keep as pet as many as we want,we dont need license or permit to catch n keep them.nobody want to buy it because there are too many of them.u can get them for $1 n some of asean people catch burmese python as a food.n if u have in my place,u only have 2 ways to let go your burmese in my country,just release it to the wild or sell it to the chinese restaurant.

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Hey man, which state of Malaysia are you from?

One thing for sure, Burmese python is not native to Malaysia. Either this guy mistaken a retic for a burmese or he really had that 7 burmese and released them to Malaysian jungle..... What a fool..:mad:

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Originally Posted by shakyhand

One thing for sure, Burmese python is not native to Malaysia. Either this guy mistaken a retic for a burmese or he really had that 7 burmese and released them to Malaysian jungle..... What a fool..:mad:

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Yeah, that make me rage.

To: psychophobia

Can you tell me that since when we don't need to apply a collecting license from Wildlife.gov. Can you tell me since when? I rage when you are giving this forum the wrong information of the people here. Don't you think you are giving us all a bad name? Just so the bullet can hit your brain, WE NEED COLLECTION LICENSE if we are collecting python from the wild and WE NEED A SEPERATE LICENSE TO KEEP them if you wish to keep them after collection. Can you brain it? Can you? It's people like you that need to be get on Perhilitan truck and stay there. You can read about AKTA 716 inside there and maybe I'll send you some ball python books so you can learn inside. Didnt your friend at the pet shop explain all this too you?

You should be grateful people in this forum are giving you advice, people like you dont deserve em

Omg i need that kind of budget too.

I apologize if I am wrong but, IMHO this guy has been trolling from the very beginning.

I'm inclined to agree. If nothing else, why would you ask for a breeder without specifying what country you were in? Most posts asking for breeders are along the lines of "Anyone know a good breeder around NJ?" or "Willing to ship to Canada?"

Asking for a breeder without specifying where you live is like asking for tax advice, it's meaningless unless you say where you're from.

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Originally Posted by Johan

Not sure if this is a joke, but I'd get familiar with ball care and husbandry before you drop 33k on snakes. Your other posts suggests you are very fresh to snakes and I think you should relax and slow done if your serious about an investment.

Good luck

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exactly what I was thinking. Doesn't sound like the person knows enough about bps.

OP, I think you gotta chill for a while bro. I know your from outside the USA and english seems to be a secondary language, but you gotta give respect to get respect. How about building a shed or a small enclosure with that $33,000, for those 7 burmese first? Then move on to ball pythons.

Also, you came off bad in this thread from the beginning, going back and forth with the veteran members, firing off excuses, and etc. I'm new to snakes too, and found this forum to be very helpful, if you are polite and patient. Consideration for people and snakes go a long way dude.

Well, anyway, I hope you get all the info you need and hope you have a great career in snake breeding, as long as it's about the love of it, not the money.

I don't even have words for this post...after reading all of it...

If you are actually serious about investing some time and not mention serious money!!! into this then I would recommend buying 12 snakes to start. 3 proven breeder double gene males and 9 single morph females that are already up to or close to breeding weight. Obviously before all of this, set up some sort of rack system with everything you need to keep good husbandry(thermostats,hides,humidity/temp gauges etc) and get a quality incubator. Wait until you get your first few clutches until you invest any money beyond this point that way you know exactly what your getting into and you can gain some experience as well. All this should cost you ruffly 5-8k which is a fraction of the 33k you were planning to dish out.