Need Serious Opinions on STRANGE "object" that my male ball python "passed"

Wow I am just too excited to find out about this. Is that wrong??:oops:

2kdime.......then doesnt that make them a hermaphodite??????

No, thats silly.

Females, at least in Blood and Short Tails have smaller pinkish/not so red hemipene looking tubular structures that look like males. Bloods and Short Tails often get mis-sexed due to this.

I would imagine the same type of thing could be happening here, where a female has larger than normal scent gland/hemipenal shaped tubes.

Have you ever heard of Parthenogenesis in females? Would you explain that as the female "playing for both sides"?

Does the OP have pictures of the 2 snakes locking up?

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Originally Posted by BPelizabeth

Wow I am just too excited to find out about this. Is that wrong??:oops:

2kdime.......then doesnt that make them a hermaphodite??????

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Originally Posted by jsschrei

Correct, THIS is not a tapeworm, but it may be a part of its life cycle called a hydatid cyst, an form of asexual reproduction for a few species of tape worm.

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but they are tiny that is huge. tapeworm are not that big. cyst are like the size for a pinhead u cant not see them.

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Originally Posted by LizardPants

Sorry, it has to be said...
This reminds me of the "Nature finds a way" scene from the original Jurassic Park.

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:) I remember that movie.

I want to know what that thing is! Haha, Wednesday is when you find out?

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Originally Posted by rdoyle

but they are tiny that is huge. tapeworm are not that big. cyst are like the size for a pinhead u cant not see them.

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There are photos of hydatid cysts from cows and humans the size of grapefruits and basketballs. You can look up Echinococcus if you want more info.

And, were like 99.999% sure it is NOT that now.

Just watch... Because were all dying to know, the results will come back inconclusive...

I have seen this animal in person, and it is for sure 100% male in terms of physical views.

I popped him myself.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I have seen this animal in person, and it is for sure 100% male in terms of physical views.

I popped him myself.

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Heather, you're the BEST! Thank you for taking your time on a Sunday to meet with me for this!

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Heather, you're the BEST! Thank you for taking your time on a Sunday to meet with me for this!

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Of course! I'm glad to be able to help you, and as many people here are, I am anxiously awaiting more news :)

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I have seen this animal in person, and it is for sure 100% male in terms of physical views.

I popped him myself.

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Folks! We now have one part of the mystery solved, we know who has the glittery nails!

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Originally Posted by LizardPants

Folks! We now have one part of the mystery solved, we know who has the glittery nails!

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LMAO!

Negative...

Actually, those were Jess's.

wow... subscribed

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wow... subscribed

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I did also

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

Just watch... Because were all dying to know, the results will come back inconclusive...

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Totally, right?

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Originally Posted by LizardPants

Folks! We now have one part of the mystery solved, we know who has the glittery nails!

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Hahaha. The glittery nails was me. Those photos are from the vet's office. I did pop him under vet supervision.

We didn't take photos when Heather popped.

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

Does the OP have pictures of the 2 snakes locking up?

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Here they are- not the best angles, but these are two different locks with the same female:

In November
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...111010_cop.jpg

In December
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...111010_cop.jpg

Woops, same photo. Here's December:
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...121110_cop.jpg

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I want to know what that thing is! Haha, Wednesday is when you find out?

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Well, I could get results tomorrow, but since there was a Sunday in there it is more likely Wed. Believe me, about 4 seconds after I get a call from the vet I'll post. I don't care what it comes back as as long as it isn't one of two things:

1) inconclusive :rage:

2) Your snake has a "blank" and is going to die :tears:

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

Just watch... Because were all dying to know, the results will come back inconclusive...

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So, so, so afraid of that. I don't care if it's not an egg thing, I just don't want to hear, "your snake is going to die". :(

hang in there and good luck

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Originally Posted by Hilltop

hang in there and good luck

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Thank you!

Im currently at work, and literally stopped on what Im doin just to read the entire thread! The suspense is killing me. I love how the turn of events on this thread went thru. From a male bp to a suspected female, to tape worm cyst, to the vet results, and to the owner of the dazzling nails. :)

I hope it turns out alright.

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I hope it turns out alright.

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Thank you!

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Im currently at work, and literally stopped on what Im doin just to read the entire thread! The suspense is killing me. I love how the turn of events on this thread went thru. From a male bp to a suspected female, to tape worm cyst, to the vet results, and to the owner of the dazzling nails. :)

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It has certainly been a trip!

I hope you have good news to.

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Originally Posted by rdoyle

I hope you have good news to.

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Thank you.

I love your Avatar! Cute!

Any word yet from the Vet? *sitting on pins and needles* Well wishes coming your way hun! *HUGS*

I hope your ball is okay. Very interesting story to say the least

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Im currently at work, and literally stopped on what Im doin just to read the entire thread! The suspense is killing me. I love how the turn of events on this thread went thru. From a male bp to a suspected female, to tape worm cyst, to the vet results, and to the owner of the dazzling nails. :)

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DITTO!!!! I just had to subscribe.. What a crazy turn of events.. I hope we are all amazed at the findings from the lab:banana:

I hope the bp is gonna be alright, he/she sure looks purty:D

ahhhh its already 3:41 in south cali. Come on doctors! I have been following you~ :ninja:

anything on this?????

11:04 wednesday night. And I'm sitting at my incredibly DEAD work. I just found this and I'm enthralled. I want to know too! What the heck was the thing? Weird I've never seen anything like that. It def looks like some weird premature egg. This is going to probably sound really stupid but I was also thinking what if it is a parasitic twin? Maybe it was much smaller when he was a baby and grew with age and then detached itself with the last meal. I don't even know if that's possible with these guys but twins are so why not parasitic twins. And sometimes the impossible is just possible. I'm glad he's ok. This has been quite the interesting story. I want to know what the lab says!
Morgan

I really hope the lack of any news doesn't mean something is wrong... :( Hopefully the OP's just busy...

Im with all of you....very interested in finding out what this is.

Me too, this will be interesting

or egg structure! Results came back as cystic fluid (not tape worm cyst, tissue cyst). So, it does not look like he's also a girl. If there are further tests that are not invasive to the animal that can be run they will be.

Sorry about the lateness of this reply...got the results just before going in to teach class.

Thanks for everyone's comments, opinions and well wishes!

Well, it's good that he's ok. It's probably just one of those freak things that will never happen again and won't bother him at all. Thanks for the update :)

Strange. So this means he's ok, right? I wonder what would cause a cyst?

That's good news! Hope he's out of the woods now, poor guy.



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Good news, I thought he might of gave birth to an alien :rofl:

wow, just read this whole thread, crazy, glad he is okay and I hope there are no reoccurences

Thanks to the above posts. I hope he's going to be OK. Those results really just tell us it's not an egg/follicle thing, they don't give me any other indication of his health :(

Cysts are usually attached to a body structure with tissue. For it to have passed out of him without any tissue globs, bleeding, etc. is very weird. I hope he never passes anything like that again.

He has bred with a female a few times, so maybe I'll get some babies from him.

His name is Hubble...and he's now a mystery :P

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Good news, I thought he might of gave birth to an alien :rofl:

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Wow! What a mind blower! I'm glad the news seems to be possitive and hope he does not have further complications. I would have bet money that it was actually a female and it layed an undeveloped egg.

I can't help but bring up where you mentioned they x-rayed the oviduct region...Does that mean they saw oviducts or that they just checked the region that the oviducts would normally be? :rolleyes:

Good luck with shim!

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Wow! What a mind blower! I'm glad the news seems to be possitive and hope he does not have further complications. I would have bet money that it was actually a female and it layed an undeveloped egg.

I can't help but bring up where you mentioned they x-rayed the oviduct region...Does that mean they saw oviducts or that they just checked the region that the oviducts would normally be? :rolleyes:

Good luck with shim!

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No, you don't see ovaries and oviducts on the films. We were looking in the area were those would have been located for abnormalities in his health. No ovaries/oviducts seen.

I am glad that is he is doing good. I hope he counds to do good

Wow, glad to hear the good news. I've been following this thread like mad since it started! Hope all goes well after this :)

Good news.. Glad to hear it wasnt an alien, altho could you imagine the morph possibilities you coulda had with a alien bp :D