Brace Yourself...

Its decided you guys. I am calling animal control tomorrow, I am going to do what has to be done.

I hadn't even considered the existence of septicemia, and the reality is this snake needs help fast!. IF my friend is really my friend then she will realize I did the right thing. I am doing it for the snake and no one else.

im not sure if anyone has said this yet but the big thing that comes to mind to me is you have mentioned your friend has snakes in this house as well. Why didnt your friend step in and say hey - take care of your snake! or even step up and do it herself?

To me that bothers me as much as what he did. she allowed this to happen and didnt do anything about it.

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Originally Posted by ameh78

Why didnt your friend step in and say hey - take care of your snake! or even step up and do it herself?

To me that bothers me as much as what he did. she allowed this to happen and didnt do anything about it.

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Believe me I have asked myself that too...I suppose she has too much pride. That it's his responsibility and trying to teach him a lesson but she didn't. The 2 months the snake was with "pet keeper" she was really neglected. The person even admitted to it. But the thing is this started out as one scale.... how could it get this bad. You have to ask yourself that. Its inexcusable.

Also if you got your snake back and the tank was filthy why would you just let her sit it in it for a month? Also the fact she hadn't been eating should have been a for sure sign to check husbandry. But they arent as strict on husbandry as you can tell.

So he never let you take the snake to the vet enen if you where going to pay for the bill. I am sry but that guy should never own other aniamle again. :tears: :tears: :tears::O

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Originally Posted by rdoyle

So he never let you take the snake to the vet enen if you where going to pay for the bill. I am sry but that guy should never own other aniamle again. :tears: :tears: :tears::O

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electric chair for sure.


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Poor lil guy :(


If your friend cared about the snake, she would have done something. Whether it was go in there herself and take care of it, or report her ex. Do what's best and make the call. Do other people know about the condition of the snake? If so, I wouldn't tell them it was you though because like someone else mentioned, the guy may seek revenge and sometimes people can be very ugly about it.

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Originally Posted by Xan Powers

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electric chair for sure.


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Electric Chair is nothing compair to what I want to do to the guy. LOL I want to hang him from a tree by his Balls

Not a cool situation. There are many thing I want to post about this but I do not want to get banned.
If he is willing to give up the snake, pm me. I can be where ever they are on a couple mins.
Though, I might just take all the pets in the house just to make sure they are all taken care of right.

your guna have to act fast because if she has septicemia witch it looks like then she hasent got long . and if you do get her to the vet i found that a antibiotic called fortum i think thats what its called is better than baytril. please ring them today she hasent got long shes in a very bad way problely dehaydrated as well. i dont want her to suffer for any longer than she as to when are you going to ring them ?

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

If he is willing to give up the snake, pm me. I can be where ever they are on a couple mins.

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Unfortunately I think the only thing I can do it report it. I can't wait around any longer to decide to do the right thing.

Thanks to Google Maps streetview I have his address, and now I will report him.
Wait never mind Im going to have t drive by his house to get the darn thing....
He read my message I sent him and no response so... pretty sure he wont ever see this coming.

what did animal control say ? why not ask them if you can take ownership of the snake once they seize it ? that way u can get it the help it needs ?

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Originally Posted by XIIIPythons

what did animal control say ? why not ask them if you can take ownership of the snake once they seize it ? that way u can get it the help it needs ?

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I haven't called yet. I need to get his address. And I would do that But I leave back to college (3.5 hrs away) on sunday. And there is no way My rents are going to take care of another snake.

Also when I call can I tell them about the reptile rescue that was willing to take the snake in for care?

Wow Anger Is boiling inside of me...
I'm defeated you guys...
I called animal control and they only take Dogs and cats cases...
She gave me the number to the herp association and I left a message. But as far as I know they can't force someone to surrender the snake...
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I have his # and address. Idk what to do. In his message he was like "No offense but this is my decision and I haven't decided what I am going to do yet"

The person from the herp association left me a message. She can't make him surrender the pet but can make his life difficult.
I'm conflicted... Should I continue to fight. My mom keeps telling me to give up and I can't save the world.

i would turn his info over to the herp association and distance yourself from your friend.. and next time he needs a favor u laugh in his face ... the only thing left really you can do.. is call chuck norris and yall do a midnight recovery of the snake, and i dont see that happening.. so Goodjob contacting people.. but i would turn it over to herp association and let them pester him...

Skip Animal Control and call the Humane Society, or call your local police and ask for the number for Animal Neglect and Cruelty, trust me, there are people who will help.

I've seen this same thing before, but every Animal Control is different. Ever watch one of those shows on Animal Planet like COPS but with animals? Those guys work for Animal Neglect and Cruelty divisions. They HAVE to intervene no matter the species. If they try to tell you they don't do snakes, ask to speak to a superior. Stress that this animal is in dire shape and will die without proper care, they don't like the PR that would come from letting it die.

Gale

Gale is right, do NOT give up, call the police department and ask them who you need to contact to report cruelty to an animal. Many shelters do not take reptiles, but your State will have some system in place to remove exotics from homes where they're being abused and neglected.

Also, for those who are advising not to do this because the criminal may strike back--shame on you for your cowardice.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

I just talked with the Lady from the Herp association. She has her meeting tonight. I gave her all the guys information and sent her the picture. She is going to talk to the people at her meeting and have people give him a call and at worst... harass him.
She said she will call me tomorrow to tell me what is going on.

make him let you take it to the vet or ask his ex to take to the vets . do any off them on this site ?

It appalls me that anyone can mistreat an animal to this degree:O I hope that he gets everything that is coming to him. I personally think that when someone mistreats an animal or neglects it that the same treatment should be given to the owner. How would he like it if he was forced to live in a box and forced to live in his own waste?!

Good on you for trying to get that snake the help it needs. I would follow Gale's advice and try and reach the Humane Society or the Animal Cruelty people. If that snake does not get help soon it WILL die. Tell that to anyone that tries to tell you no.

UPDATE
She is in horrible condition...It is getting worse.
My friend said he picked her up, looked at her belly and put her back down. And said "She has to go"
They were considering putting her down but I called them and gave them the # for the herp association. They are going to surrender her.
I'll keep you updated as things progress.
I pray it isn't too late.

It is so bad they are putting her down....
They are on their way right now...
They think she has septicemia
I'm sorry you guys... I failed. I tried so hard so it wouldn't come to this...
She won't be in pain much longer.
She was just a beautiful snake you guys... :'[

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

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Everything in our city sucks :[ Or that snake would have been forced out of there 2 weeks ago. :cens0r:

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The vet said even with antibiotics at this point she wouldn't make it because it was so severe...
It just makes me mad that it had to come to this.

I do understand but will keep my mouth shut:mad:

This makes me really angry. I'm the local reptile rescuer in my community and have gotten rescues with everything from parasites, scale rot, mouth rot and thermal burns. All of these and the affliction that was killing that animal are COMPLETLY treatable. I find it awful that they did nothing until they put the animal down. SHE SUFFERED. That's a truly sick person. Not only would I never talk to them again. But I'd still report them. I hope more pics were taken bc that's still evidence. To have something as treatable as that was at first and even in the end and to still do nothing is seriously disturbed. I'm sorry you had to watch that. If a person could neglect an animal like that just imagine how they treat their friends and loved ones.

I'm sorry that it came down to this, but I am glad that she is no longer suffering so horridly. Please let us know if anything else comes of the owner regarding the neglect he allowed. I'm sure I speak for all of us in thanking you for your efforts on behalf of the snake. Heaven forbid that you encounter another situation like this, but now you're even better armed with the right people to contact should you ever see anything like this again.

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

This makes me really angry. I'm the local reptile rescuer in my community and have gotten rescues with everything from parasites, scale rot, mouth rot and thermal burns. All of these and the affliction that was killing that animal are COMPLETLY treatable. I find it awful that they did nothing until they put the animal down. SHE SUFFERED. That's a truly sick person. Not only would I never talk to them again. But I'd still report them. I hope more pics were taken bc that's still evidence. To have something as treatable as that was at first and even in the end and to still do nothing is seriously disturbed. I'm sorry you had to watch that. If a person could neglect an animal like that just imagine how they treat their friends and loved ones.

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I'm not sure I have much faith in our herpetology association. I told them about the case. Gave them all the information. Because I was at a standstill. Even Animal wouldn't take any action. And because of this ... a beautiful snake died... Yea I am definitely not going to talk to the guy who owned the snake. And as for my friend. I have nothing to say to either of them. It was neglect. Period..Dot. End of it. To sit there while an animal suffers is just cruel. And let me ask how much was it to put the animal down? b/c for prob $30 they could have gotten the antibiotics. Totally bull. They watched her die and did nothing about it. :mad:

this is so sad what a waste of a beautyful life they make me sick . i knew the snake had septicemia . when i rescued my snake his was bad and he pulled trow but not as bad as this snake. y dint they listen to you 2 weeks ago the snake mite of had a chance sick people . whats happend is so sad but atleast the snakes not suffering rip poor little darling and you did your best .:snake: