who knows well allen belcher big daddy's?

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Originally Posted by Mike Wilbanks

Christian has been a great customer for me. He has always paid when he said he would and has been a pleasure to deal with. Allen called me yesterday and as he said, I told him that I would not accept his animals for me to export. I only export my animals that I produce. I was a little shocked to hear that there was even a problem with Christian because he has always been easy to deal with.

Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back. If you want to accept this offer just let Allen know that he can now sell the animals that he was holding for you.

I am sure that I am producing most anything that you could want. I hope that you have learned a lesson here and will do all of your future business with me. I always bring you quality animals and there is no long wait.

Check the "Currently Available" section of my site. I will be adding many new ball pythons that have been hatching over the last couple of weeks and I will be adding more almost daily. If you don't see something that you want, please email me and I will tell you when it will hatch.

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THAT - Allen, is the mark of a true gentleman and business man - you'd do well to take notes. Count me as someone who will also look to Mike in the future when I'm looking for new animals!

YOU on the other hand, just leave me feeling slimey.

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Mike you are a true gentleman and that's why I'm so glad and honored to have your Tics in my collection...:bow::bow::bow: You are an example of the class in the industry that is often times lacking...

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Originally Posted by Mike Wilbanks

Christian has been a great customer for me. He has always paid when he said he would and has been a pleasure to deal with. Allen called me yesterday and as he said, I told him that I would not accept his animals for me to export. I only export my animals that I produce. I was a little shocked to hear that there was even a problem with Christian because he has always been easy to deal with.

Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back. If you want to accept this offer just let Allen know that he can now sell the animals that he was holding for you.

I am sure that I am producing most anything that you could want. I hope that you have learned a lesson here and will do all of your future business with me. I always bring you quality animals and there is no long wait.

Check the "Currently Available" section of my site. I will be adding many new ball pythons that have been hatching over the last couple of weeks and I will be adding more almost daily. If you don't see something that you want, please email me and I will tell you when it will hatch.

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I think I know where my next pick-up is coming from! :)

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Originally Posted by Mike Wilbanks

Christian has been a great customer for me. He has always paid when he said he would and has been a pleasure to deal with. Allen called me yesterday and as he said, I told him that I would not accept his animals for me to export. I only export my animals that I produce. I was a little shocked to hear that there was even a problem with Christian because he has always been easy to deal with.

Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back. If you want to accept this offer just let Allen know that he can now sell the animals that he was holding for you.

I am sure that I am producing most anything that you could want. I hope that you have learned a lesson here and will do all of your future business with me. I always bring you quality animals and there is no long wait.

Check the "Currently Available" section of my site. I will be adding many new ball pythons that have been hatching over the last couple of weeks and I will be adding more almost daily. If you don't see something that you want, please email me and I will tell you when it will hatch.

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Now that is how you set the standard in this industry!!!

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Hats off to you Mike! Maybe we'll be lucky enough to meet/do business with you in the future :).

Mike-1

Allen (Big Daddy) Belcher-0

For those who have never done business with Mike, I can 100% back his customer service and quality of this snakes...He is one of the most respected breeders in the industry and any dealing with him would be smooth as silk and the snakes would be top quality...Also, saying that you have a snake with Mike's name on it carries much respect in the reptile industry...I know it does in the Tic-World, that I'm a part of...:salute::salute::bow::bow::gj::gj:

Nice to see the bar being raised and not lowered. :gj:

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

Nice to see the bar being raised and not lowered. :gj:

Bruce

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Amen to that!!!

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

As most know because of my disapproval of how Rich runs his site I can no longer respond on it, but here is some information on this site for yall.

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Most who are caught being untruthful, giving bad customer service feel that way. My guess would be your lackluster business model will soon have you feeling those warm little fuzzy feelings around here too.

How many bad service, animal neglect posts have been made about you now?
How come the many good people that have been in this hobby, for so many years (decade or two) that have not received any complaints? While you can't go six months without a single one. It's called character. People who look just at the bottom dollar line like you, care less. Therefore you have more problems satisfying your customers. Particularly when a transaction goes wrong or has a few problems you can't seem to solve them professionally.

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Christian when you paperwork comes in I will notify you. If you don't want to finish your agreement then you will NOT get your money back.

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Of course not. A two-bit hustler like you wouldn't think about doing the right thing. Your just a fine upstanding member of this community, aren't you Allen?

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I know that to some of you I have had everything from IBD to HIV and all in between. I am threatened all the time that if I don't go the extra mile that someone will put me on a forum.

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I wonder why that is? Could it be that you have been proven untrustworthy? Nah, people are just picking on poor little Allen.

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Funny thing is that years later I am still around producing and selling top notch snakes for a great price. Can't say that for some!

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Yep, your still here. Giving bad customer service, selling dieing snakes, and not demonstrating good ethics. You can always snow a few. Heck, in your post you stated you would take his money and not give him anything and two people here thought that post was good enough to thank you for it.
It's no wonder your still around. It just proves some people suck as much as you.

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Christian when you paperwork comes in I will notify you. If you don't want to finish your agreement then you will NOT get your money back.

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You were paid for animals and a service and you haven't gotten it done. Give the man back is funds. What the heck is wrong with you?

Way to go Mike! It is good to see some of the good names taking the time out of their schedule to post here and on Fauna.

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Originally Posted by Dave763

I have bought from Big Daddys at a show. Got a great animal at a great price.:gj:
No problems.
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Yeah, it's easy to buy or sell an animal. It's a little harder to handle problems with good customer service. That's when it counts. But hey, glad you got a great animal and had no problems.

If you ever wonder how their kept when they aren't at a show, take a look at this thread.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ad.php?t=75369

Thanks to all of you for THE SUPPORT and an infinite thanks to my friend MIKE WILBANKS, special person

nothing boys… does not want to let go, after these written, is 1 year that aspect cites, that I have given to my customers all their money behind, the cites is ready…. that strange this thing… sin that I do not have more customers for animals, and given back money…
it continues to make to lose time to me and says that if I do not take animals I lose the money…. crazy this element…

this email:

Da bigdadyballroom@aol.com
A Christian Ball Python Morph
Data 21/06/2010
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Christian you have a cities for 12 babies. If you want to send me a list of what snakes your customers are looking for right now I will price the list and try to help you fill your order at a cheaper price to help you make extra money for yourself. If you do not use this cities paperwork you will loose your deposit. This is all I am willing to do.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
From: "Christian Ball Python Morph" <info@ballpythonmorph75.it>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:39:08 +0200
To: <bigdadyballroom@aol.com>
Subject: Re:

after 1 year, I have given back all the money to my customers, with justice, I do not have more customers, what I make with those animals? from the my money to mike as it comes to an agreement… I do not want more nothing Allen, I want my money from you behind, that I have given to my customers…
Da: bigdadyballroom@aol.com
A: "Christian Ball Python Morph" info@ballpythonmorph75.it
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Data: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:26:40 +0000
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Christian I told you I would let you know when your cities was ready. Now if you do not want the order you will loose your deposit you have on this order. Let me know what you decide.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
From: "Christian Ball Python Morph" <info@ballpythonmorph75.it>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:18:32 +0200
To: <bigdadyballroom@aol.com>
Subject: Re:

I do not have more customers in order to buy animals from you, as you have said to mike, from the my money to he….
Da: bigdadyballroom@aol.com
A: "Christian Ball Python Morph" info@ballpythonmorph75.it
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Data: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:14:03 +0000
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Your cities arrived

Isn't it "odd" that he now gets paperwork.

allen, you're still a scumbag. Just refund the guy his money.

Wow, I'm so very sorry that this happened to you! I hope you get your money.

That was a very stand-out offer that Mike made, as well, although I expect nothing less from him. He's a great guy - gave me one of my BP's for free years ago. Very generous.

How ironic, Allen - as soon as Mike steps up to the plate to give Christian a credit for money he paid to YOU - you magically have the CITES paperwork available. AND you're not willing to give a refund. You've dug yourself even deeper into the scumbag grave.

When are you REALLY going out of business (you know - all those going out of business sales you have - or was that just another one of your gimmicks?)? This hobby wouldn't miss you.

Christian, walk away from this - Allen doesn't know the meaning of customer service and doing the right thing. Mike's made a generous offer so you aren't truly out any money. Sorry about the lost customers due to Allen's negligence.

I only hope that this pig has ended to make to lose time to me and money… I have asked aid mike, I do not become account of the figures that ago Allen? I would have shame, I would not have more the courage than to exist in this turn and continues to send email to me… enough is pathetic to die

how never Allen does not put more animals available in ks? ahahaha that personage… clown from race

Allen you are the biggest joke ever! Why dont you just go play in the batting cage :rolleyes:.

another:

Da Christian Ball Python Morph
A bigdadyballroom@aol.com
Data 22/06/2010
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you want to understand that I do not have more Allen customers, what I fill up? who wage the animals that I order you? I have had to give back all money 2500$ to my customers, the customers cannot wait for 1 year, sends to me the animals and when I have sold for your account I send money to you, it goes well thus? mike knows well I, is an honest person who says truth, does not want to pass from victim absolutely… what orders you? which animals? from me they order only animals that arrive to hamm show, not more from America want to understand, it? you had to quickly say me, wants 1 year for having cites, if not to succeed to send me, you do not have to take engagements… from these money mike and we close all… you hold the money that you have spold for cites…
Da: bigdadyballroom@aol.com
A: "Christian Ball Python Morph" info@ballpythonmorph75.it
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Data: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:48:55 +0000
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Christian I did not break our agreement. You did! You tell untrue tales on the forums and make out like you are a victim. I have been nice enough to allow you to get 2010 snakes to fill the cities. If you choose not to take this coarse then you loose your deposit. I talked with Mike and even he said wow when he heard my offer and you refusing. Your pride is what is in the way of you doing the original deal. You know why none of the larger breeders are saying anything bad about me on the forums. It is because a lot of them buy from me and know my snakes. You are not the first person who tried to bully me on the forums and I am certain you will not be the last. You can send me a list of the snakes you are looking for and I will price it for you or you can loose your deposit. I will not continue to respond to you asking for money back. I will start to erase your emails and not respond. If you decide not to fill your 12 snake order then you loose your deposit. This offer is all I am willing to do and is a one time offer. I feed, cleaned and housed over 10,000.00 in snakes for you and now I am out the remainder of my money. If you want to send me a list and get good prices on 2010 babies then let's do this. If you do not then it is you who broke the agreement and you loose your deposit. I have done everything on my end as I said I would. Now the ball is in your court. What are you going to do?
Allen

Da Christian Ball Python Morph
A bigdadyballroom@aol.com
Data 22/06/2010
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you want to fill up the cites, with 12 animals? ok no problem it does send to me 12 ancestral females baby…

Da: bigdadyballroom@aol.com
A: "Christian Ball Python Morph" info@ballpythonmorph75.it
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Data: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:19:38 +0000
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If you want to act stupid and play games with me I am not going to reply. I talked with Mike and gave you a great solution to take 2010 babies at 2010 pricing. If you want to act stupid I am done and will no longer reply to you. I am not playing games here and I will not continue to respond to you if you continue to act silly.

Da Christian Ball Python Morph
A bigdadyballroom@aol.com
Data 23/06/2010
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from there it does not go allen you also to you? it explains to me, the stupid game you make it you here, not I, I must fill up by force with morph? I do not have customers now and I do not have 12 animals to take… does not accept the normal schools? why? it explains… my customers do not want animals 2010 have waited for 1 year

they are without words, wants to fill up by force cites with 12 animals and chip ax 12 ancestral females, clever the boy does not want to put the morph within…

Thats a great thing to do Mike!!

I am also a very happy customer of Mike and this thread shows the kind of man he is!!!!..............

A great very honest man with even better snakes and great customer service:gj: