adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

the heating pad is set to 90
the tank temp says only 70

the humidity says 70


im worried its to cold and humid?

Why do you think moravaguy has "reptile dysfunction" in yellow under his name. He has received so many bad rep points that it says that now. It means that member is not someone who contributes in an educational and polite way.

At least more people spoke up and gave some more advice. It was 2am when I was trying to give advice and I was tired lol.

To the OP and the roommate. Good luck with the new BP and post pictures in the picture thread when you have time if you haven't already. Welcome to BPnet.

For the tank, cover the top with something to hold heat in. I use small blankets for a quarantine tank I have to cover the top.

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Yes, it's aggravating when someone throws your well-founded advice in your face. It's totally understandable to be angry because of it. But that isn't going to help change anyone's mind. It just makes them more likely to go off and do whatever they want. They'll then ignore your advice simply to spite you for getting angry with them. It's more helpful for the person and their snake to be nice and state the possible consequences of doing things their way. Then it's up to them to listen, because you did everything you could at that point.

I wouldn't get angry because I'm concerned for their snake if nothing else and they definitely won't want to listen to an angry, rude person.

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so everytime a newby gets on here and tells an experienced person they are wrong your supposed to just keep helping them more? i guess i will have to try to work on that. :rofl:

but not the whole top right so the snake can at least get some air?


aLSO my book says i do not have to change the bedding in the tank for about 3 months wow is this true? thats a long time! it says in the mean time just whipe the insides of the tank with water and paper towls once a week.

Hey Welcome!

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but not the whole top right so the snake can at least get some air?


aLSO my book says i do not have to change the bedding in the tank for about 3 months wow is this true? thats a long time! it says in the mean time just wipe the insides of the tank with water and paper towls once a week.

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First of all, we are not sure which book and by who you have. Some of the info there could be very well be outdated. 3 Months seems like a long time, I would do it once a month at least, depending on what you are using. I use newspaper so I have to clean the whole thing out when they pee or defecate.

What substrate are you using? be aware that pine shavings is toxic to snakes and reptiles in general.

You can try bumping the temp to 92. But remember that "thinking" is too cold is not the same as being cold. You need an accurate way of reading temp, or your snake will pay the price.

You can cover most of the top. They dont require as much oxygen as mammals do.

Depending on what you use for bedding, a month is about what I do. For aspen bedding you can spot clean. Scoop out the poo and wet area when they go. For news paper or brown packing paper, change it when they go. As for the top. They actually do not need as much ventilation as you would think. Many of us that use a reptile rack with tubs do not have holes in the tubs. The only ventilation is the tiny gap between the top edge of the tub and the shelf it slides into. You can cover most of the top and only leave a couple inches or so on one side for ventilation. If you are using a towel or something cloth, you dont even need to leave a gap since fabric breathes.

You want the probe for the heat controller outside the tank so the snake can't move it around. If the snake moves the probe, the UTH can over heat and burn your snake.

You can tape the probe directly to the UTH outside the enclosure.

The digital thermometer probe should go right on the glass where the UTH is under the substrate.

I would also recommend replacing the log hide with two cave like hides. This can be a plastic container or bowl. Or you could spring for the naturalistic looking ones that most pet stores carry. Ball pythons like tight cramped hides. A log hide cannot fulfill this.

I just want to say, Thank you for all the people putting up with me being a brat. steve is right, i was being defensive and i really appreciate all the help people have given despite how rude i was. I think im getting ready to start my monthly and i always get a bit emotional.

As far as the taping the probe to the outside of the tank, its one of those sticky heating pads that go on the bottom of the tank, should i tape it to the outside of the sticky part? or the inside?

Also, i know everyone says he doesnt want to be held, but it really seems like he does, and i really want to hold him, so how long can i hold him for? exotica thinks i can only take him out for 5 mins at a time, is that true?

Yes, you want the probe for the thermostat (heat control) to be right on the UTH. Tape is with some strong tape directly to the UTH. That way it is monitoring the temp of the UTH right at the source. The little probe for the thermometer needs to lay on the glass inside the tank, inside the hide on the hot side. Then the unit should go on the cool side. The humidity is not too high. 60/65 is more preferable but as long as there is no moisture on the glass or the bedding, the snake will be fine.

BPs do not get sick from high humidity. They get sick (RI) from low humidity and low temps. Its better to be on the higher side for humidity then to be too low.

I just have too much free time this summer, so I hang out and say what I think the more experienced people will say. If I've butchered advice and made things more complicated, I'm sorry to whomever that may effect. If it's made the senior members' jobs harder or newbies' learning more confusing, I apologize because that's what I feel I may have done here. I figured nothing happens here at night and I could help out.

If you haven't already stuck the heating pad to the tank, put the thermostat probe between the pad and the tank and don't use the stickiness--use tape so you can easily remove it and reuse it. If you have, removing it can damage it, so let it be and tape the probe to the outside of it. Use whatever tape you can, but in the long term, foil tape has been said to be the only that doesn't lose it's sticky because of the heat.

Everyone says don't handle them at all until they've eaten for you a few times. I'm not going to tell you that any amount of handling is ok right now because I really don't think it is. It's what I've been told by more experienced people than I, and it makes sense for wild animals that don't socialize with humans normally. Dogs are domestic. Cats are domestic. We've been living with them and they us for thousands of years. Humans have never lived with snakes.

I would recommend holding off on handling until the snake is eating consistently. Remember, handling is for the owner, not for the snake. Your snake, whether you like it or not, does not enjoy or "love" handling. It simply tolerates it.

Ball pythons are very touchy about feeding. This is why folks are telling you to make sure the snake is settled into its new home, and feels secure and comfortable, and is EATING, before you handle it.
A ball python that is eating regularly is generally in good shape--they usually go off feed at the first sign of a problem.
Ball pythons are well adapted to spend the breeding season (4 to 6 months) fasting. The trouble is, they're so touchy, they can literally starve themselves to death while waiting for conditions to improve (in their perception).

Sleeping with a ball python is really a bad idea--the potential to accidentally injure the snake is a big concern--chances are that at some point, the snake will simply take off and wind up hiding somewhere in your home. They can be hard to find, and they have no sense of self-preservation when it comes to cold temperatures.

Then too, there was the rather funny story of someone's ball python that was very tame, and was lounging with them on the couch....the snake bit them in the armpit. No one is really sure why--pheromones, heat, etc, perhaps. But it shows that their instincts can be triggered by strange things sometimes, and they're really not entirely predictable.

Get your new pet settled well into his home, and respect that fact that he's a reptile--he will never love you. He will come to accept that you are part of his life, given time. He's got a personality, and he has emotions...but they are primitive emotions. He doesn't have the emotional centers for complex things like love, because pythons do not care for their offspring, and do not form any bonds with their mates. They simply have no need for that type of emotion. (I am a breeder--female snakes will coil around and guard their eggs, but the moment they are away from them, they return to normal behavior without the slightest pause--their instinct to care for the eggs also ends when the eggs hatch, if they are left with the eggs. Baby snakes are on their own).

You will have to appreciate him for what he is--a unique being with his own personality and entirely different needs and desires from yours. Don't anthropomorphize--learn to understand what ball pythons really want and need.

The population of this forum is comprised of experienced breeders and keepers, intermediate level pet keepers, and newbies like yourself. You should most certainly pay attention to advice given by breeders. Breeding reptiles is much more complex than breeding mammals. Reptiles will generally only breed when conditions are optimal.

If you want to be sure that your snake is happy, feed him. If he eats, he is probably fairly happy. If he doesn't, then something IS wrong, and it's up to you to find it, and fix it.

the probe wont fit under the tank its to thick?

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the probe wont fit under the tank its to thick?

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Your UTH should have come with little rubber stoppers for the corners of the tank to raise it off the table. with these, the probe should be able to fit.

ohh ok we found them originally we taped the probe under the hide under the substrate on the inside of the tank like the man at the reptile place said

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ohh ok we found them originally we taped the probe under the hide under the substrate on the inside of the tank like the man at the reptile place said

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Yeah inside the tank would make sense, but it really isn't the best place to put it. If the snake were to move it, the UTH would run on full blast and cook the snake.

well then, i might as well have a goldfish!

You're right--keeping reptiles IS a lot like keeping fish. They're very similar animals, for all that one lives out of the water, and the other in it.
Their mental capabilities are very comparable.

Of course, goldfish are very trainable, so might be considered a bit brighter than ball pythons. I've never heard of anyone really training a ball python. But training requires a motivator, and very little really motivates a ball python, so perhaps that isn't fair, lol.

You can't take your goldfish out and hold it, of course, which is what makes ball pythons so pleasing. Just always remember that holding the snake is something you do because YOU enjoy it. The snake simply never will. It just wants a nice, dark, warm, humid place to hide.

Snakes--and other reptiles, amphibians, and fish--are pets that people keep because they enjoy looking after something and watching it thrive in their care. They enjoy watching its behavior, and investigating its personality.

These animals are not kept because they love us--a dog, cat, or even a ferret will. A bird will. But not a reptile. If you need a pet that will love you back, a reptile isn't for you. You need to look to the warm-blooded critters for that (and even then, you have be selective--only social animals 'love'. Your hamster will never love you, either, but your pet rat could).

So, reptiles don't love. That having been said, WE love THEM. It does not matter to US that they can't love us back. We love them just the way they are. That's why we keep them.

:tears: so basically, everyone here is killing sweet little mice and rats (who could and do love and trust you) and putting them in the tank to be killed by something that doesnt even want you?...


does anyone want a free snake?

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:tears: so basically, everyone here is killing sweet little mice and rats (who could and do love and trust you) and putting them in the tank to be killed by something that doesnt even want you?...


does anyone want a free snake?

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That is the circle of life.

No one is keeping you from having a mouse as a pet instead of a snake.

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ok well we put the probe inbetween the sticky part and the tank at first but that created an air buble so we put the probe on the bottom part of th eheating bad not the sticky part the temp is like 73 right now but remember we have one of those glass thermometers that stick to the glass and are round

i also covered the top of the tank w a pillow

You two (exotica and wispurs), though being roommates using two accounts, should and can get all the information you need in a lot of great threads and posts in this forum.
All the others, loving all great creatures creeping around on this planet like I do, but:
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS! :colbert:

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ok well we put the probe inbetween the sticky part and the tank at first but that created an air buble so we put the probe on the bottom part of th eheating bad not the sticky part the temp is like 73 right now but remember we have one of those glass thermometers that stick to the glass and are round

i also covered the top of the tank w a pillow

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Yeah I wouldn't even acknowledge the reading that round gauge is giving you. Go out and get yourself an accurite weather station. The thermostat is useless without it.

A lot has gone on here since I've been gone, but I think I'm up to speed so far.

First of all, congratulations on your new snake. They do take some effort at care and getting used to, but they are worth it to me.

You have definitely been taking steps in the right direction with care, and I applaud you for that. If you spend a little time reading the "stickies" at the top of each forum page here, you'll find a lot of useful information, I know it really helped me when I didn't know anything. I would recommend going to Wa-lMart and spending the 10-12 dollars on an Accurite digital thermometer/hygrometer. Those dial things the pet shops sell you are useless. I've seen them be off temperature by 20 degrees!

The Accurite will come with a little wire attached to it, you want to put the little knob on the end of that wire right on the glass tank bottom right where the heat pad is underneath. That is the only way you will know if the heat pad is hot enough/too hot.

Another thing, yes it is hard to hear that your snake doesn't love you or even want to be held by you. It really kind of de-flates your ego. But you know what? I love mine anyway. I have nine pet snakes right now, and each and every one has it's own personality. I hold mine for 10 or 15 minutes at a time once or twice a week. They don't mind the attention from me, and I can indulge my fantasy that they love me. Sure, cats and dogs and ferrets, and even rats show more affection, but that doesn't bother me. I actually have all these things as pets, and I still wouldn't give up my snakes. They are very calming and soothing to me, and they are good for my high blood pressure as well, so you could say they are a medical necessity for me. :D

Try not to let it get you down. Snakes are amazing animals, and they deserve a special place in your heart, even if it's not quite the place you hoped for.

For now, as hard as it is, try to let your new baby have several days to a week of peace and quiet. Just do your adoring from afar. Then, in about a week, try and get him to eat for you. If he does, that's a very good thing! Once he has eaten his first meal for you, give him about 48 hours to digest, so you don't give him an upset tummy, and then you can try holding him for a little while. It is going to take a lot of effort and patience on your part, if you are anything like me, NOT holding him will be just about the hardest thing there is, but it really is for his own good.

Once he has time to settle into his new home and has eaten for you a few times, I don't think taking him out for 15 minutes at a time, even if it's most days except right after he has eaten will hurt anything. The best way to know if you are overdoing it is, he'll stop eating. If he does, ease up on the handling a little, if he eats good, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Gale

That's right, I feed cute, furry, social little animals to scaly, timid, ungrateful animals. I like the snakes better, personally, because they rarely pee on me. ;)

If you want to give the snake to a good home, there is a classifieds section on the forum, and you could offer it up for adoption. Chances are, someone would be glad to take it in.

Remember that this is an animal that is relying on you entirely for its quality of life. It's helpless in your hands. If you feel you can't do right by it, then by all means, pass it on to someone who can before it becomes ill.

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You're right--keeping reptiles IS a lot like keeping fish. They're very similar animals, for all that one lives out of the water, and the other in it.
Their mental capabilities are very comparable.

Of course, goldfish are very trainable, so might be considered a bit brighter than ball pythons. I've never heard of anyone really training a ball python. But training requires a motivator, and very little really motivates a ball python, so perhaps that isn't fair, lol.

You can't take your goldfish out and hold it, of course, which is what makes ball pythons so pleasing. Just always remember that holding the snake is something you do because YOU enjoy it. The snake simply never will. It just wants a nice, dark, warm, humid place to hide.

Snakes--and other reptiles, amphibians, and fish--are pets that people keep because they enjoy looking after something and watching it thrive in their care. They enjoy watching its behavior, and investigating its personality.

These animals are not kept because they love us--a dog, cat, or even a ferret will. A bird will. But not a reptile. If you need a pet that will love you back, a reptile isn't for you. You need to look to the warm-blooded critters for that (and even then, you have be selective--only social animals 'love'. Your hamster will never love you, either, but your pet rat could).

So, reptiles don't love. That having been said, WE love THEM. It does not matter to US that they can't love us back. We love them just the way they are. That's why we keep them.

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i donooo i think my Boo loves me :) she crawls all over me and makes herself at home in my shirts teehee! she likes to investigate my hair too. i mean they gotta love u,...u feed em and give em a safe home :) they may not understand love but im sure they understand being safe and being fed!

That's just it--they're perfectly capable of feeling contented--'happy'. Not so much with the love, which is a very strong emotion, a strong attachment to an individual.

You said he wouldnt like sleeping with me, he did. you said dont switch him to prekilled mice or he wont eat, he did, you said dont hold him or he wont eat, he ate it right out of my hands with no problem on the first try! you said he wont be happy if i do all these things, and he is. you said he wont love me, but guess what?!!! he does! :taz: :banana:

... and what?!

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You said he wouldnt like sleeping with me, he did. you said dont switch him to prekilled mice or he wont eat, he did, you said dont hold him or he wont eat, he ate it right out of my hands with no problem on the first try! you said he wont be happy if i do all these things, and he is. you said he wont love me, but guess what?!!! he does! :taz: :banana:

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I'm sorry that post is too funny.... I just imagine her with big boxing gloves saying "BRING IT!" :rofl:


Anyways... If you keep sleeping with your BP sooner or later you are gonna injure it or it will crawl away into some hole you are unaware off and lose him for ever. Trust me I lost my first Ball Python because I felt asleep when I was very tired and her tub was slightly opened. :(

You came here looking for the advice of people who have owned and bred these snakes for years. The least you can do is be appreciative of these strangers trying to help you and keep your animal healthy when you bought an animal you knew nothing about. All we are simply trying to do is give you advice; something you came looking for. If you refuse to take it, fine, but you don't have to go off and throw it in the faces of those kind enough to try to help. Simply thank them and restrain from rudeness.

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You said he wouldnt like sleeping with me, he did.

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Whoah! your serious about this? On top of the obvious dangers of the snake getting crushed, lost etc. im sure your house is not the correct temperature for snakes to survive in. One time when my snake managed to open the top of my cage where the clap had been off a little bit, i found her in my floor board heater and had to take the whole thing apart to get her out.

There is so much that could go wrong here i would really recommend keeping him/her in her cage through the night. But nobody is perfect, i have fells asleep with the snake on me before for about 30 mins. That is not a nice feeling to wake up to knowing the snake was out and now she isn't in sight!:O

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You said he wouldnt like sleeping with me, he did. you said dont switch him to prekilled mice or he wont eat, he did, you said dont hold him or he wont eat, he ate it right out of my hands with no problem on the first try! you said he wont be happy if i do all these things, and he is. you said he wont love me, but guess what?!!! he does! :taz: :banana:

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Lmao. This can't be a serious post... I think you've all been had.

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You came here looking for the advice of people who have owned and bred these snakes for years. The least you can do is be appreciative of these strangers trying to help you and keep your animal healthy when you bought an animal you knew nothing about. All we are simply trying to do is give you advice; something you came looking for. If you refuse to take it, fine, but you don't have to go off and throw it in the faces of those kind enough to try to help. Simply thank them and restrain from rudeness.

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Why are you so upset with me? Arent i allowed to be excited that my snake loves me, and switched to prekilled mice and ate the on the first try in a new home on a new diet? Im not trying to throw it in anyones face that their snakes dont love them and mine loves me. Im just excited that mine does. thats all. Im sorry if i offended anyone :(

I think its the sleeping with the snake bit that none of us are okay with.

I honestly didn't think the snake would have any problem switching to pre killed or thawed. most don't have any issued switching over.

BUT your snake still does not LOVE you. It just TOLERATES you. They are not capable of the emotion "love" because they do not have a social structure at all. They don't care for their young.

I would compare sleeping with your snake just as dangerous as sleeping with an infant. Many children have died because a parent has rolled on top of them and suffocated them to death. Think of how easily this could happen with your pet whom you obviously care greatly about.

im still new to keeping snakes aswell and i would highly recoment listening to the people on here there's so much you can learn from them.

please try not to sleep with your snake the risks are so bad. junior my bp managed to get down the back of the leather couch after i took my eyes off him for a minute and needless to say i was in some state (luckily the backs held on with velcro so i got him out ok when i figured this out) just imagine where your snake that you love could get to if he/she decides to move when your asleep. its just a matter of time before it happens

Omg this thread is hilarious!

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You said he wouldnt like sleeping with me, he did. you said dont switch him to prekilled mice or he wont eat, he did, you said dont hold him or he wont eat, he ate it right out of my hands with no problem on the first try! you said he wont be happy if i do all these things, and he is. you said he wont love me, but guess what?!!! he does! :taz: :banana:

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That snake would have crawled away and hid somewhere, there's no way the snake just curled up at the foot of her bed or cuddled with her all night. I'm highly doubting this is legitimate.

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I think its the sleeping with the snake bit that none of us are okay with.

I honestly didn't think the snake would have any problem switching to pre killed or thawed. most don't have any issued switching over.

BUT your snake still does not LOVE you. It just TOLERATES you. They are not capable of the emotion "love" because they do not have a social structure at all. They don't care for their young.

I would compare sleeping with your snake just as dangerous as sleeping with an infant. Many children have died because a parent has rolled on top of them and suffocated them to death. Think of how easily this could happen with your pet whom you obviously care greatly about.

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I do agree with you about sleeping with the snake. I only did it the first night because i was afraid he would freeze to death in his cage, but after reading about how he could get lost, that made sense to me and i dont want to lose him or hurt him, I slept very lightly that first night and tried to just keep him as close to me as possible. Its not something i plan to ever do again and in retrospect, it was not the best idea. but at the time it seemed better than the alternative. I really do appreciate all the concern you guys take for his best interest and all the time you take to explain to me about what i should or shouldnt do. I just sometimes get a bit excited and say things that are a little out of line.

I really do mean the best for him.

xoxo

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That snake would have crawled away and hid somewhere, there's no way the snake just curled up at the foot of her bed or cuddled with her all night. I'm highly doubting this is legitimate.

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Well you sir, are WRONG!!! he did sleep with me. and he didnt crawl away. Im attributing it to him being just as scared as we were, but dont accuse me of lying just because my snake stayed with me and yours wouldnt stay with you.

You ought to realize, however, that ball pythons are nocturnal. So, your snake is naturally going to be awake at night, and will sleep during the day.

So, if you're sleeping at night, it's not sleeping with you. It's awake. lol

wow this is amazing

too funny!

One other thing--feeding the snake by hand (rather than with tongs) is going to get you bit, eventually and inevitably. It won't be the snake's fault--he'll just miss.

They have poor eyesight, you see. Those pits on the front of their face are heat-sensing pits. They allow the snake to 'see' infrared. When you're feeding a frozen/thawed mouse, sometimes the mouse will be a bit cooler than you are...so it will be less visible, while your hand will show up better. The snake will smell the mouse, and aim for the heat signature--oops.

Better to use tongs. Often, after accidentally 'biting the hand that feeds', the snake will decline to eat, lol.

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I do agree with you about sleeping with the snake. I only did it the first night because i was afraid he would freeze to death in his cage, but after reading about how he could get lost, that made sense to me and i dont want to lose him or hurt him, I slept very lightly that first night and tried to just keep him as close to me as possible. Its not something i plan to ever do again and in retrospect, it was not the best idea. but at the time it seemed better than the alternative. I really do appreciate all the concern you guys take for his best interest and all the time you take to explain to me about what i should or shouldnt do. I just sometimes get a bit excited and say things that are a little out of line.

I really do mean the best for him.

xoxo

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Well you sir, are WRONG!!! he did sleep with me. and he didnt crawl away. Im attributing it to him being just as scared as we were, but dont accuse me of lying just because my snake stayed with me and yours wouldnt stay with you.

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You start nice and slow in the first post and then WHAM! in the 2nd... You two are a funny pair I will give you that lol... :rofl:

Listen to the people trying to give you serious advice, just because it didn't happen the first time it doesn't mean it will not happen the second time.

Please do not feed the troll.

They have a tendency to bite...

Alright, in all seriousness..

This forum is meant to help people who are new and old to the hobby and other experianced members are quite willing to help others, or we wouldn't be here.

Your initial attitude is nothing we haven't seen before, and many of us can put that aside immediately and try to help out your problems and do what is best for your animals.

But you came through with a secondary strike. Something that's almost hurtful to the people trying to help you here. You tried to "prove them wrong" in every aspect of advice they gave you and then came on here to neiiner neiiner about it. That type of immaturity is what is making people go "this is hilarious!" and "are these people really serious?" because you are pushing any advice aside as if it was useless and doing what YOU think is best. You aren't even considering the repercussions that your actions could have on the animal, not to mention the dangers you are submitting your animal to and what would be considered irresponsible pet ownership.

You need to take this as adults and do what is best for the animal. There are plenty of ways to get it to someone else if you do not feel that you can take care of it, and I'm having my doubts. I'm saying this with all the niceness in my heart, but I'm the kind of person that doesn't sugarcoat anything and says it how it is.

If you are not going to take the advice of experianced members on the forum, then please stop asking for advice in the first place. It is insulting when you try to argue with us about pointless opinions when we know what the animal NEEDS.
If you choose not to take the advice on this forum, I hope that you can at least give the animal away, for the animal's sake.

I'm done. The proper husbandry advice has been given to you 3 or 4 times already. Your snake is a reptile and does not "love" like you or I do. It tolerates handling and can even become stressed from too much handling. Ball pythons are non-social animals and prefer to live lives in a dark tight hide alone.

um how bout we just stop replying?

i dont get what the fuss is about we only have one issue now


the ball python fed so hes good but hes 3 feet and all he ate was 1 mouse

the other forum members say to wait till next feeding day (tuesday) to feed him 2 mice

I am just a bit concerned that he may be hungry still but we will wait if that is the best thing to do

it would be nice if everyone could just concentrate on the snake and not other things that dont matter as its our first snake and we wanna take good care of it

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i dont get what the fuss is about we only have one issue now


the ball python fed so hes good but hes 3 feet and all he ate was 1 mouse

the other forum members say to wait till next feeding day (tuesday) to feed him 2 mice

I am just a bit concerned that he may be hungry still but we will wait if that is the best thing to do

it would be nice if everyone could just concentrate on the snake and not other things that dont matter as its our first snake and we wanna take good care of it

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Yes just wait untill next feeding day and see if it will take 2 mice. Also stop handling it so much as he might end up stressed and stop eating. Ball Pythons are notorious for going off feed very easily.

Just make sure his temperatures are correct and he has water and leave him alone for a few weeks.

Again HE DOES NOT need handling. That is for our amusement only, NOT the snake.

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it would be nice if everyone could just concentrate on the snake and not other things that dont matter as its our first snake and we wanna take good care of it

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Thats exactly what most of the concerned posts are about, making sure the snake is as safe and well taken care of as possible. And some of the things iv herd have made the hair on the back of my neck stand up lol!

But Just wait for Tuesday and attempt the 2 mice. Snakes can go months and months without eating, and extra week or 2 will have no effect on his ability to eat and he will not starve.