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Venomoid animals

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  • 08-13-2009, 04:10 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Venomoid animals
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kon1 View Post
    exceptions to it being so harmful i understand its wrong people cutting up snakes in a garage so ppl can have them as pets but if its done by veterinarians and healing is within two days i just dont see how harmful that could be to a snake

    I smell Tuna.
  • 08-13-2009, 05:49 PM
    FIEND_FO_LYFE
    Re: Venomoid animals
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    I smell Tuna.




    noone has yet shown me ANYTHING good from having a venomoid.
    i think its cruel, and makes it "OK" for some D-BAG to go get a venomous snake...
  • 08-13-2009, 07:28 PM
    jparker1167
    Re: Venomoid animals
    snakes dont need to inject prey with venom they digest them just fine without the animals being injected with venom
  • 08-13-2009, 08:08 PM
    luna13
    Re: Venomoid animals
    i dont like it
  • 08-13-2009, 09:42 PM
    jere000
    Re: Venomoid animals
    It is stupid because you get a venomous snake to take it's venom away?It makes no sense and doesn't work 100% of the time and puts the snake through a lot of stress and pain that is isn't necessary.
  • 08-14-2009, 06:16 AM
    Neal
    Re: Venomoid animals
    I think it shouldn't be allowed, and that's my input on it. It's part of the snake, so if you get a snake and you don't want that aswell then you shouldn't own a venomous.
  • 08-14-2009, 11:24 AM
    Denial
    Re: Venomoid animals
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kon1 View Post
    on venomoid inc they say that it doesnt hurt the snake. its done by proffesionals. and they replace implants so it looks normal. is thier exceptions ?

    They have no idea how it feels to the snake. They say that to try to make sales. It doesnt matter if its done by a professional or a backyard hack and slash its wrong. They were put on earth with venom and thats how they should stay. If they didnt need venom to digest or kill prey they wouldnt of been born with it. God made them right the first time! If you cant handle the heat dont play with fire!

    imo
  • 08-14-2009, 12:29 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Venomoid animals
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    I think it shouldn't be allowed, and that's my input on it. It's part of the snake, so if you get a snake and you don't want that aswell then you shouldn't own a venomous.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    They have no idea how it feels to the snake. They say that to try to make sales. It doesnt matter if its done by a professional or a backyard hack and slash its wrong. They were put on earth with venom and thats how they should stay. If they didnt need venom to digest or kill prey they wouldnt of been born with it. God made them right the first time! If you cant handle the heat dont play with fire!

    imo

    By this logic, especially since someone's god is now involved and we all know what it means to cross one of them, we should not be neutering or spaying our dog and cats. After all, they were born, er made, with those parts and we, heh heh heh, as mere mortals, should not be changing what, no, wait, can't do it....

    You who profess belief are some of the biggest hypocrits to walk the earth.

    When you favor something, it's ok to change anything, god given or not. When you don't favor it, it's a sin and just all around bad.

    Pish and tosh I say.

    Arguments based on this are invalid and are basically a waste of bandwidth.
  • 08-14-2009, 01:47 PM
    Denial
    Re: Venomoid animals
    Human beings as a whole are hypocrits regardless of what you believe in.
  • 08-14-2009, 02:06 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Venomoid animals
    Some animals - various crotalids, king cobras, the king brown, etc. that manufacture substances in their venom that could have a protective role in their immune systems. Those enzymes may protect them from internal parasites and possibly pathogens.

    As to the argument that venom plays no role in the digestion of prey items: that's based on an ASSumption - not any real scientific evidence. That ASSumption is a WAG - postulated because several species of venomous snakes will eat dead prey without it injecting it with venom.

    ....and venomoids should be fed f/t prey items. What a nasty shock for that poor captive venomoid rattler when that rat he bites doesn't die - how the heck is he going to eat it?

    Which brings us back to the digestion question..........What IF enzymes in the venom are intended to assist the digestion system? Is it possibly that venomoids are at risk for complications due to their inability to utilize these enzymes?
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