Cresteds!

They don't do the leo screech, but they can make a squeeking kind of noise. It isn't as loud as a leo though.

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Originally Posted by mlededee

Price is actually very much about the morph. For instance, creamsicles and red harlequins are morphs which are more expensive than tigers or patternless cresteds.

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From my understanding about CG genetics (which could be COMPLETELY wrong), and the terminology associated with the word "morph" in reptile breeding.. I.E. single gene mutations. Aren't colors mostly determined from line breeding to enhance specific traits?? I believe this is the case for the bright reds, and the colors people attempt to get in creamsicles.

I haven't seen any breeding trails of breeding harlequin/pinstripe/flame patterns with "normal" plain patternless CGs to know enough about these genes, if they are related or the same gene, or if the patterns are caused by the presence of a single gene.

P.S. I'm 100% confident in what emily says, she certainly knows her stuff when it comes to cresteds and has some amazing animals, I just wanted to clarify what I was attempting to say, mostly concerning the word "morph", and maybe try to get some clarification on what is known about crested genetics.

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Originally Posted by mlededee

They don't do the leo screech, but they can make a squeeking kind of noise. It isn't as loud as a leo though.

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Just an extra note: I like the squeaking, it's ridiculously cute.

Thanks everyone! Im realy exited.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

From my understanding about CG genetics (which could be COMPLETELY wrong), and the terminology associated with the word "morph" in reptile breeding.. I.E. single gene mutations. Aren't colors mostly determined from line breeding to enhance specific traits?? I believe this is the case for the bright reds, and the colors people attempt to get in creamsicles.

I haven't seen any breeding trails of breeding harlequin/pinstripe/flame patterns with "normal" plain patternless CGs to know enough about these genes, if they are related or the same gene, or if the patterns are caused by the presence of a single gene.

P.S. I'm 100% confident in what emily says, she certainly knows her stuff when it comes to cresteds and has some amazing animals, I just wanted to clarify what I was attempting to say, mostly concerning the word "morph", and maybe try to get some clarification on what is known about crested genetics.

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The term morph is used a little differently with cresteds than it is for most other reptiles. For instance, with ball pythons it is an actual genetic mutation that causes a snake to look differently, and thus be a morph. With cresteds, I don't think it is really known whether there is any actual mutation of the genes going on--crested genetics are still somewhat of a mystery. That said, most people still refer to the different colors/patterns/etc of cresteds as morphs (i.e., the creamsicle is a morph).

Crested color and pattern is mostly developed by breeding geckos together that have characteristics that you want to enhance, make more of, or blend together (if the offspring gets some qualities from dad like harlequin patterning and some qualities from mom like a red background color). They have also been line bred in order to develop certain colors and patterns. There is no guarantee of what you will get when you breed two cresteds, but it is mainly a combination of the following--some offspring look like mom, some like dad, some like a combination of mom and dad, and sometimes they may not really look like mom or dad. It's not like ball pythons where you mostly know what specific genes each snake has the ability to pass on to its offspring. Sometimes a gecko will pass on something to its offspring that it doesn't visibly have, like dalmation spots or a certain color, so you can tell that there is something else going on genetically that is not visible--possibly that gecko's parents had dalmation spots or that color that is showing up in its offspring (but it doesn't work the same way that a recessive gene works). You can learn what traits your geckos tend to pass on over time and experiment with different pairings based on that and what your intended goals are, but in the end you still aren't guaranteed a specific result. A plain brown gecko might throw smoking red offspring when paired with the right male, or it might throw nothing but plain geckos no matter what you pair it with--you just have to pair them up and see what you get. :)

Genetics wise this was very well said!

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Crested color and pattern is mostly developed by breeding geckos together that have characteristics that you want to enhance, make more of, or blend together (if the offspring gets some qualities from dad like harlequin patterning and some qualities from mom like a red background color). They have also been line bred in order to develop certain colors and patterns. There is no guarantee of what you will get when you breed two cresteds, but it is mainly a combination of the following--some offspring look like mom, some like dad, some like a combination of mom and dad, and sometimes they may not really look like mom or dad. It's not like ball pythons where you mostly know what specific genes each snake has the ability to pass on to its offspring. Sometimes a gecko will pass on something to its offspring that it doesn't visibly have, like dalmation spots or a certain color, so you can tell that there is something else going on genetically that is not visible--possibly that gecko's parents had dalmation spots or that color that is showing up in its offspring (but it doesn't work the same way that a recessive gene works). You can learn what traits your geckos tend to pass on over time and experiment with different pairings based on that and what your intended goals are, but in the end you still aren't guaranteed a specific result. A plain brown gecko might throw smoking red offspring when paired with the right male, or it might throw nothing but plain geckos no matter what you pair it with--you just have to pair them up and see what you get.

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From what I've heard some traits are more dominant such as dalmation spots.

As for noise making, most only do it for breeding purposes and its adorable!