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Laying Inverted?

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  • 07-22-2009, 12:23 AM
    OgleRpets
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    Cuddles is 5 feet and 1960 grams, Serenity is 4 feet and 1600 grams, Mr. Wiggles is 4 feet and 1910 grams. They have been sharing a 7 foot by 2 foot by 2 foot enclosure.

    Neither of my females have ovulated that I have seen.

    Why is it unsafe for them to live together?

    I have a hovabator with eggs in it currently from my bearded dragons. But plan on purchasing another if I was to have ball python eggs.

    My kenyans are much easier, we had our first clutch in May but since they give live birth we didn't need an incubator.

    Thank you so much everyone for helping me, I want to do what is best for my snakes.
  • 07-22-2009, 12:41 AM
    joshn6805
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    Are you 100 percent positive on there sexes? It stresses ball pythons out to live together, you might not notice it and they might not display any weird behavior to you, they might seem like there cuddling but they truely dont like being together and require there own enclosures. If one of them gets sick ALL of them get sick. Its just better all around to seperate them.
  • 07-22-2009, 12:45 AM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    Well, at least they are of a good breeding weight. A 7 ft. cage is way too big for a ball python. They like tight spaces. A 20 gal long is perfect for one full grown. Balls are solitary creatures. If one becomes dominant over the others, they may stop eating. Or the dominant one gets the best hides (if you even have hides for them) while the others aren't thermo regulating. And they have to thermo regulate for proper digestion (and other reasons). If the male is breeding non-stop it can wear him out, and is unhealthy for them.

    I'm sure others here will give their reasons. All in all, it is very unhealthy for them. I'm sorry if I'm being rude, but you don't seem like you are knowledgeable to be raising ball python babies. I'm looking in the best interest of the snakes. You should read up on some care sheets here, and give them the best possible care.

    I would split that tank in half with a divider, with one snake on each side. Then maybe get a 42 at tub for the other one. You could even get a big heat pad and put in the center of the big enclosure. It would so much healthier for the snakes. And they would be happy.

    What are their temps/humidity? They need at least 50%. Are you able to keep that in such a big enclosure?

    PM some of the mods around here if you have any questions, they are really great!
  • 07-22-2009, 12:46 AM
    OgleRpets
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    Yes, they have been probed.
  • 07-22-2009, 12:50 AM
    joshn6805
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    I think you should learn more about the snakes first before you really start worrying about breeding. not to be rude or anything but hatching ball python eggs is not an easy process and has to be pretty much error free with perfect conditions. You should seperate them immediately and read some caresheets.
  • 07-22-2009, 12:50 AM
    OgleRpets
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    They keep a temp at 80 - 85 on their cool side and 90-98 on their warm side. The humidity in their cage stays between 55-60.
  • 07-22-2009, 12:52 AM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    Oh. Ok. Just making sure. Your husbandry sounds really good, 98 is a little too warm, but they need to be seperated. Do you have enough hides for all of them?
  • 07-22-2009, 01:04 AM
    OgleRpets
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    Wow, I didn't expect to be attacked. I just asked a simple question because I saw my bps laying inverted and immediately wanted to know why. I looked online and the only things I could find about it were that they were gravid.

    If you read I'm not actively trying to breed my snakes. When I bought them, the breeder that sold them to me told me to keep them together.

    I came here for help not to be ridiculed for being ignorant. I want to learn. Ball Pythons are new for me. I've read all the care sheets about ball pythons that I have found. My younger ball pythons are all in their own 20 longs.

    My pets are first and foremost pets, so any suggestions would be great, but please don't treat me like I am ignorant.
  • 07-22-2009, 01:06 AM
    OgleRpets
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    There are 3 hides in there and normally they all use their own but have been known to share every once in a while.
  • 07-22-2009, 01:07 AM
    joshn6805
    Re: Laying Inverted?
    Nobody is attacking you, simply giving you very helpful suggestions that is in the best interest of the snakes.
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