Permetherine Poisoning - Some Qs

i agree with everyone else. neuro issues are serious and it may effect the animal in the long run. i think there is a lot this guy isn't telling you about the incident. i would not purchase the animal and try to get my money back.

I kind of wonder if this snake had issues before your friend got it which was why it was tossed in at a discount...
I'm not too sure what morphs make a pied, as I do not follow breeding and genetics much, but is it possible for pieds to get the "wobble" like spiders are known for?...


Rob

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Originally Posted by mlededee

On the paperwork that comes with Provent-a-mite (which contains permethrin as the active ingredient) it states that once dry, it will remain effective for "up to 30 days or longer" and also that you should re-treat every 30 days as a preventative. For the product to last 60 days, in a high enough concentration to cause a severe reaction seems extreme. Not to mention the fact that the enclosure should have been fully sterilized prior to introducing a different snake.

I personally would not buy the snake. It has suffered neurological distress, some or most of which could be permanent. It doesn't sound as if it is being kept in the cleanest/best environment and there could possibly be more to the story than you are being told. I'd steer clear and save my money to buy from a reputable breeder where you can get the snake into your hands with it having to go through a middle man first.

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Excellent analysis. You actually saved me from having to type what you said. I almost would have said it exactly the same. Stay away from this deal. Especially if your intention is to breed, why not buy the best (even if the price is a bit higher).

I hope you got a written document saying that you have payed this guy two times, that way you can get your money back.

I see the general consensus is to not buy the snake. Is this from a pure breeder point of view? What if he wanted to buy the snake as a non breeder, would he still risk the chance of this snake could cost more in the long run?

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Originally Posted by Elise.m

I hope you got a written document saying that you have payed this guy two times, that way you can get your money back.

I see the general consensus is to not buy the snake. Is this from a pure breeder point of view? What if he wanted to buy the snake as a non breeder, would he still risk the chance of this snake could cost more in the long run?

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Even as a pet, I would want to be purchasing a healthy animal, not one that now has neurological damage, especially one as pricey as a pied (discount or not).

Pet or future breeder I'd have two major issues with this purchase.

One is long term damage to the snake from this exposure and in fact was it this exposure or was the snake fully healthy in the first place. I'd want to know where this snake came from and speak with that person.

The other would be trusting the person I'm buying this snake from. There is something very wrong with a snake going into QT in an enclosure that was never disinfected from the previous snake. That shows a serious lack of basic husbandry skills. Also I really question what was sprayed in that enclosure. For it to be deadly still after all that time, well either something is not being said truthfully to you or the product used was never reptile safe in the first place.

I'd like to know what this syrum, read magical elixir, is. I know of nothing that will stop neurological problems simply by being injected. I'm not talking about opioids, which don't cure but do make for a mellow time, but an actual making better by the injection of.

It's not Tuna, more along the lines of Spanish Mackerel to this old and worn out nose.

Thanks everyone. I think I am going to have to let him know that I'd not like to pick up that animal. It may put us on bad terms, I dunno (people are people and people aren't always reasonable when it comes to money, you know what I mean?) but I agree I don't think I want this snake in my collection anymore. I wanted a high white to begin with anyway and this isn't a high white.

Elise.m, I did at least have the forsight to do that. I almost didn't, because I fail like that a little bit.

wilomn, you know, I haven't the faintest idea.